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K a h K e e N a n g
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:27 pm    Post subject: Like to know about this Reply with quote

Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
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Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Maybe, maybe not.
It depends on whether you're Microsoft or Hard Disk Manufacturer
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

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here is a web 'bit calulator' converter

http://www.matisse.net/mcgi-bin/bits.cgi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

In article <3f3be6df.193453361@news.pacific.net.sg>,
The little lost angel <me> wrote:
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
nospam@emails.com> wrote:

Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Maybe, maybe not.
It depends on whether you're Microsoft or Hard Disk Manufacturer
:PppPp


It's not a Microsoft vs the World type of thing. For whatever reason hard
drive manufacturers go by ^10 and the rest of the computing world uses
binary ^2.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

1 Mb=1024^2 byte

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

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1 Mb=1024^2 byte

No.

1 MB = 8 Mb = 1024^2 Bytes


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

K a h K e e N a n g wrote:

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Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

4bits = 1byte
1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

"path" <no@spam.spam> wrote in message news:3F3DD452.A0D268F2@spam.spam...
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K a h K e e N a n g wrote:

Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

They call it 'unformatted' and 'formatted' capacity, but it really just
means HD manufacturers aren't using base 2 in their calculations, but base
10 (1000 vs 1024).

Quote:

4bits = 1byte
1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte


8 bits in a byte. Use base 2 for memory size calculations: 2^10 = 1KB,
2^20 bytes = 1MB, 2^30 bytes is 1GB, 2^40 bytes is 1TB, etc.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

path wrote:
Quote:
K a h K e e N a n g wrote:


Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks


Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

4bits = 1byte

Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.
People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

Quote:
1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

"Rob Stow" <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote in message
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Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.
People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

Actually, it isn't 'being cute'. It represents a single hex digit. There
are some situations where nibbles are used to convert to/from small decimal
values and hex digits for various purposes, such as printing and
displaying - and possibly other purposes.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote:

Quote:
path wrote:
K a h K e e N a n g wrote:


Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks


Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

4bits = 1byte

Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.

I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still
running the SI?:-)

Quote:
People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

But is 2-bits a dibble or a dibit?:-)

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George Macdonald
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
<nospam@emails.com> wrote:

Quote:
Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Uhh, it depends.... on who you are and whether you want to follow the
fairly recently "established" standards of the SI and IEC which you can see
here: <http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html>. Personally I always
feel stupid saying Mebibyte - sounds too much like maybebyte.... maybe it
is and maybe it isn't.:-)

Apart from that, as others have said, within the computer industry, disk
drive mfrs have traditionally used 1MB = 1 000 000. The worst was with
floppy disks back in the days when some had hard sectoring and some soft
sectoring - the former actually had multiple holes around the hub hole to
mark the sectors.

Rgds, George Macdonald

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
<nospam@emails.com> wrote:
Quote:
Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

The "official" definition of Megabyte (MB), as defined by the SI
people, is 1,000,000 bytes. However, the de-facto standard definition
of Megabyte for everyone other than hard drive manufacturers is 2^20,
or 1,048,576 bytes. The SI people refer to this as a Mibibyte (MiB),
but you'll have a heck of a time finding anyone in the real-world who
uses that term.

For all practical purposes, 1MB = 1,048,576 bytes unless your buying a
hard drive, in which case it's 1,000,000 bytes.

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Keith R. Williams
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

In article <3f4072ec.155855674@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says...
Quote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:35:09 -0600, Rob Stow <rob.stow@sasktel.net> wrote:

path wrote:
K a h K e e N a n g wrote:


Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks


Yes, those hard drive makers really do sell hard drives that are smaller
than they appear to be. Even my 486's 850mb hard drive was really 815mb

4bits = 1byte

Actually, on this planet we use 8 bits = 1 byte.

I see the term octet creeping in more and more. Are the French still
running the SI?:-)

Perhaps. However, a "byte" isn't technically eight bits. A
"byte" is more or less the equivalent of a "character". The term
"octet" is used to make the distinction of an eight-bit unit.
Quote:

People who try to be cute sometimes say 4 bits = 1 nibble.

Actually, it's known as a nibble (as in byte(.

Quote:
But is 2-bits a dibble or a dibit?:-)

Late enough into the evening (or before the first few sips of
morning coffee) it could be a dribble, but I've always heard is
as a dibit (perhaps better: a Dilbit?).

Then again, octal systems have always had Trouble With Tribbles.

....or perhaps I should stop now? ;-)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Like to know about this Reply with quote

In article <3f406acf.153778383@news.tellurian.com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com says...
Quote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:27:33 +0800, "K a h K e e N a n g"
nospam@emails.com> wrote:

Is 1 000 000bytes equal to 1MB? Thanks

Uhh, it depends.... on who you are and whether you want to follow the
fairly recently "established" standards of the SI and IEC which you can see
here: <http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html>. Personally I always
feel stupid saying Mebibyte - sounds too much like maybebyte.... maybe it
is and maybe it isn't.:-)

It is pretty wimpy.

Quote:
Apart from that, as others have said, within the computer industry, disk
drive mfrs have traditionally used 1MB = 1 000 000. The worst was with
floppy disks back in the days when some had hard sectoring and some soft
sectoring - the former actually had multiple holes around the hub hole to
mark the sectors.

Ancient history. It's not like things have change much lately.
The rulz is the rulz. We don't need no new high-falootin' new
terms! The old (t)rusty ones are well understood.

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