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mike in vegas
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 Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:09 pm Post subject: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz front-side
bus) to 333, 366 or??? CPU is a MMC-1 form factor. I can find the CPU's on
Ebay, but am not clear if the computer will recognize slightly faster cpus.
Intel made MMC-1 format cpu's up to 400mhz, but unclear if it was a 4x100 or
6x66 multiplier.
Any info is appreciated.
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JK
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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mike in vegas wrote:
| Quote: | Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz front-side
bus) to 333, 366 or???
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Why bother? You wouldn't notice the difference. If you don't have plenty of
ram in the notebook, you might want to think about buying more ram.
Otherwise consider buying a new computer if you want better performance.
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
| Quote: | CPU is a MMC-1 form factor. I can find the CPU's on
Ebay, but am not clear if the computer will recognize slightly faster cpus.
Intel made MMC-1 format cpu's up to 400mhz, but unclear if it was a 4x100 or
6x66 multiplier.
Any info is appreciated.
Mike |
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mike in vegas
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:07 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Understand you thoughts on simply buying a new notebook. For various reasons
I would prefer to upgrade the CPU rather than dump this 256mb 14.1" tft
notebook.
Mike
"JK" <JK9821@netcape.net> wrote in message
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mike in vegas wrote:
Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz
front-side
bus) to 333, 366 or???
Why bother? You wouldn't notice the difference. If you don't have plenty
of
ram in the notebook, you might want to think about buying more ram.
Otherwise consider buying a new computer if you want better performance.
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
CPU is a MMC-1 form factor. I can find the CPU's on
Ebay, but am not clear if the computer will recognize slightly faster
cpus.
Intel made MMC-1 format cpu's up to 400mhz, but unclear if it was a
4x100 or
6x66 multiplier.
Any info is appreciated.
Mike
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Stacey
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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JK wrote:
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mike in vegas wrote:
Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz front-side
bus) to 333, 366 or???
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
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Too bad none of the good laptop manufactures use them..
On the OP's question have you looked at IBM's site? there is TONS of info
there, just takes some digging. Might download the repair/parts manual and
see what swaps? I figured out I could swap the sound card from a 760EL to
an ED that way.
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JK
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Stacey wrote:
| Quote: | JK wrote:
mike in vegas wrote:
Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz front-side
bus) to 333, 366 or???
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
Too bad none of the good laptop manufactures use them..
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Just about all the major notebook makers use them, except
Dell, Gateway, and perhaps IBM(they might use them for
markets outside the US)? Most of the better value
notebooks under $1300 use a mobile Athlon XP processor.
It is hard to find notebooks with a mobile Pentium 4 for
under $1300.
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On the OP's question have you looked at IBM's site? there is TONS of info
there, just takes some digging. Might download the repair/parts manual and
see what swaps? I figured out I could swap the sound card from a 760EL to
an ED that way.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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JK wrote:
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Stacey wrote:
JK wrote:
mike in vegas wrote:
Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz
front-side bus) to 333, 366 or???
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
Too bad none of the good laptop manufactures use them..
Just about all the major notebook makers use them, except
Dell, Gateway, and perhaps IBM(they might use them for
markets outside the US)?
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I don't think toshiba uses them either.. Which leave out IBM, toshiba, Dell
and Gateway.
Who's "major" left? Compaq? WTF wants a compaq!
Like I said none of the GOOD laptops use them. Not that they aren't good
chips, just that the 2nd tier manufacturers are the only people that use
them.
Once again you've turned a support question about an Intel product into a
"Let me sell some chips for AMD" thread...
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JK
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Stacey wrote:
| Quote: | JK wrote:
Stacey wrote:
JK wrote:
mike in vegas wrote:
Looking to upgrade my Thinkpad 390 from Pentium II 300 ( 66Mhz
front-side bus) to 333, 366 or???
You can buy a notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor at a very
reasonable price.
Too bad none of the good laptop manufactures use them..
Just about all the major notebook makers use them, except
Dell, Gateway, and perhaps IBM(they might use them for
markets outside the US)?
I don't think toshiba uses them either.. Which leave out IBM, toshiba, Dell
and Gateway.
Who's "major" left? Compaq? WTF wants a compaq!
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HP/Compaq, Sony, Acer.
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Like I said none of the GOOD laptops use them. Not that they aren't good
chips, just that the 2nd tier manufacturers are the only people that use
them.
Once again you've turned a support question about an Intel product into a
"Let me sell some chips for AMD" thread...
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Stacey
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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JK wrote:
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Stacey wrote:
Just about all the major notebook makers use them, except
Dell, Gateway, and perhaps IBM(they might use them for
markets outside the US)?
I don't think toshiba uses them either.. Which leave out IBM, toshiba,
Dell
and Gateway.
Who's "major" left? Compaq? WTF wants a compaq!
HP/Compaq, Sony, Acer.
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Nope, Sony doesn't use them either or at least none of the laptops on their
site have them.. So who's left Compaq and Acer?
Like I said NONE of the good laptops use them. Compaq laptops are crap.
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The little lost angel
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:44:43 -0400, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Nope, Sony doesn't use them either or at least none of the laptops on their
site have them.. So who's left Compaq and Acer?
Like I said NONE of the good laptops use them. Compaq laptops are crap.
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You forgot to add, Acer are crap too. :PpPP
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Keith R. Williams
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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In article <3f04b03a.741421988@news.pacific.net.sg>, a?n?g?e?
l@lovergirl.lrigrevol.moc.com says...
| Quote: | On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:44:43 -0400, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nope, Sony doesn't use them either or at least none of the laptops on their
site have them.. So who's left Compaq and Acer?
Like I said NONE of the good laptops use them. Compaq laptops are crap.
You forgot to add, Acer are crap too. :PpPP
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There are only two laptops: Toshiba and IBM. The rest are crap.
....and I favor the latter.
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Rob Stow
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Keith R. Williams wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3f04b03a.741421988@news.pacific.net.sg>, a?n?g?e?
l@lovergirl.lrigrevol.moc.com says...
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:44:43 -0400, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nope, Sony doesn't use them either or at least none of the laptops on their
site have them.. So who's left Compaq and Acer?
Like I said NONE of the good laptops use them. Compaq laptops are crap.
You forgot to add, Acer are crap too. :PpPP
There are only two laptops: Toshiba and IBM. The rest are crap.
...and I favor the latter.
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I used to share that opinion.
Then I arranged some laptop purchases several years ago for a
small gov't facility. I purchased 11 IBMs direct from the IBM Canada
and 7 were DOA. The replacements for the DOA's were also all DOA -
and when I checked the serial numbers I discovered that they had just
sent my original DOA's back to me. Sent all 11 back and got Toshibas
instead - all of which were still trouble free last I heard. |
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JK
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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Stacey wrote:
| Quote: | JK wrote:
Stacey wrote:
Just about all the major notebook makers use them, except
Dell, Gateway, and perhaps IBM(they might use them for
markets outside the US)?
I don't think toshiba uses them either.. Which leave out IBM, toshiba,
Dell
and Gateway.
Who's "major" left? Compaq? WTF wants a compaq!
HP/Compaq, Sony, Acer.
Nope, Sony doesn't use them either or at least none of the laptops on their
site have them.. So who's left Compaq and Acer?
Like I said NONE of the good laptops use them. Compaq laptops are crap.
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What makes you say that? They are in demand and sell well. The Athlon XP
notebooks by Hp/Compaq are very attractively priced. Toshiba and IBM
laptops tend to be expensive. What Toshiba or IBM laptops with a 15"
screen and a DVD/CDRW combo drive can I buy for around $1000?
Can I get one with a mobile Pentium 4? Many people don't want to
pay $1500+ for a notebook.
Take a look at the eMachines website. It looks like eMachine dropped
Intel, and is now exclusively AMD. Now you will probably start making
fun of eMachines?
http://www.emachines.com/products/
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The little lost angel
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 12:43:50 -0400, JK <JK9821@netcape.net> wrote:
| Quote: | What makes you say that? They are in demand and sell well. The Athlon XP
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In demand and selling well doesn't say anything about it being good.
Many real world cases where the better product don't sell as well.
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| Quote: | Take a look at the eMachines website. It looks like eMachine dropped
Intel, and is now exclusively AMD. Now you will probably start making
fun of eMachines?
http://www.emachines.com/products/
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I'm going to steal it from Stacey first.
eMachines?!!! *ROFL*
I thot we were talking about quality (read good quality) laptops here?
p.s. I'm more or less pro-AMD but frankly, I wouldn't touch any
AMD-based laptop for my own use at the moment.
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The little lost angel
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:16 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:10:57 -0400, Keith R. Williams
<krw@attglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | There are only two laptops: Toshiba and IBM. The rest are crap.
...and I favor the latter.
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You're biased :P
Personally, I refuse to pack an extra mouse with my laptop so
trackpoints are one of the first criteria for me. Only Toshiba, IBM
and Dell has it.
I tried a few Dells and they all felt like if I abused them the way I
did my older A20, they will fall apart. Toshiba didn't have
trackpoints on the models in my budget range and generally I don't
find them as nice :P
Though I wished my A20 died two months later, cos I would had gotten a
T40 Centrino instead of a T30 P4M :/
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JK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:33 am Post subject: Re: Thinkpad CPU upgrade my 390 from 300Mhz to?? |
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The little lost angel wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 12:43:50 -0400, JK <JK9821@netcape.net> wrote:
What makes you say that? They are in demand and sell well. The Athlon XP
In demand and selling well doesn't say anything about it being good.
Many real world cases where the better product don't sell as well.
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Better at what price? Sometimes people only have $800-1000 to spend
on a notebook. Can you show me a better alternative than an HP or Compaq
notebook with a mobile Athlon XP processor in that price range? Should
someone buy a notebook with a celeron processor, or pay even more
than $1000 for a notebook with a desktop Pentium 4 processor?
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Take a look at the eMachines website. It looks like eMachine dropped
Intel, and is now exclusively AMD. Now you will probably start making
fun of eMachines?
http://www.emachines.com/products/
I'm going to steal it from Stacey first.
eMachines?!!! *ROFL*
I thot we were talking about quality (read good quality) laptops here?
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We should be talking about the best performance and quality available
at each price point, not saying that an $800 notebook(after rebates) is
junk compared to a $2000 notebook. That is not constructive. So let
me ask the questions. What is the best notebook for $800? For $900?
For $1000? For $1100? For $1200? Perhaps when the price range
gets over $1500, your beloved IBM and Toshiba notebooks might
be good contenders, or perhaps they might not be? Even if a $2000
IBM of Toshiba notebook is better than a $1000 Compaq or HP
Athlon XP notebook, is it worth paying double the price for even if
someone has the money available to buy it? If someone needs a
notebook to use for 4 years (for example, a student about to start college)
and has $2000 for the project, should they buy a $2000 and pray
that it lasts 4 years, or buy an $1800 notebook and a $200 extended
warranty for it(and pray it isn't stolen) or should they buy a $1000 mobile
Athlon XP notebook, and plan to buy another $1000 notebook before
they finish college? The likelihood of two notebooks in a row breaking
when out of warranty(or being stolen) within 4 years is much less than
for a single notebook. In addition, when someone wants to buy the second
notebook in two years or so, they may get a few hundred dollars selling
their old notebook. They may also get a few hundred dollars selling the
second notebook after two years. How much would someone get
selling the 4 year old IBM or Toshiba notebook? Will it even be in
good shape after 4 years? Just some things to think about.
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p.s. I'm more or less pro-AMD but frankly, I wouldn't touch any
AMD-based laptop for my own use at the moment.
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