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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:48 am    Post subject: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the 5A.
I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
I'm thinking about PC3200.

I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
No worries there.

I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they started
selling the Pros, IIRC.

So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.

Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a while.


doughy


"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
Quote:
I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the
5A.
I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
I'm thinking about PC3200.

I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
No worries there.

I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they
started
selling the Pros, IIRC.

So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.

Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Thanks Doughnut.

"Doughnut" <doughnut@doughnut.com> wrote in
news:40f3af0c$0$6448$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:

Quote:
DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a
while.


doughy


"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several
months now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I
think I'm going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of
DDR into the
5A.
I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line,
so I'm thinking about PC3200.

I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the
idea of moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory.
There is a PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other
hand, there is also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this
board. No worries there.

I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A.
As far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com
detector declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume
it's the older one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg
right before they
started
selling the Pros, IIRC.

So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the
2700 instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm
not overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.

Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran SDRAM
for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

I am running www.mushkin.com memory 2x512 @2.5 CAS

I am not overclocked or anything now, since there is really no reason with
low CPU prices these days. I would recommend a brand name chip(s) to
alleviate and chances of corruption, but cheap memory does work. Its what
your comfortable with.

I am on my 72nd K7S5A ( I build computers) and have only had ONE failure
that was a true defect. This boards rocks.

Don't worry about memory speed as long as you are OVER the minimum (pc2100).

Get the most for the cheapest you can.

Hope this helps.
The Tech Support Guy

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"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
Quote:
I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the
5A.
I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
I'm thinking about PC3200.

I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
No worries there.

I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they
started
selling the Pros, IIRC.

So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.

Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.

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fLameDogg
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

Quote:
I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran
SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.

<snip>

Quote:
I am on my 72nd K7S5A ( I build computers) and have only had ONE failure
that was a true defect. This boards rocks.

72, wow. I've been really happy with the board. I do get that oops where
the CMOS or BIOS or whatever loses it every once in a while, but it's
rare, and I know the few changes I need in the BIOS by heart so it's quick
to deal with. I know I should flash it, but I'm lazy; lazy in my usual
way, which is to make things too complicated ("oh, I should get a BIOS
Savior first," but I never do, so I never flash <g>).

Quote:
Don't worry about memory speed as long as you are OVER the minimum
(pc2100).

Sounds good. There was just one naysayer who kept popping up in the
groups archive saying that PC3200 wouldn't work in this board, but I
suppose that could be a PEBKAC or something.

Quote:
Get the most for the cheapest you can.

Hope this helps.

It does. Thanks a lot.

<snip rest>

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Don Taylor
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

"Tech Support Guy" <helpedyou@ComputerRelative.com> writes:
Quote:
I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran SDRAM
for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

Really? How big a difference? I thought the rule of thumb was that
most people would see under 10% improvement switching from SD to DD.
And only that if they got out the stopwatch and timed before and after.

Now, to contribute something to the group, something cute I just found.

Running some number crunching using www.alpertron.com.ar/ECM.HTM
which is a Java applet. I found that on the ECS board I can get
more than a 10% improvement in speed if I use the -server option
for the version 1.4 Hotspot server vm instead of the default client
vm. For little things that don't take long to run the server takes
longer to get started and do all the optimization work but for long
running intensive apps the server optimizations will win out. I
haven't figured out how to get that to work with version 1.3 yet
and someone who tried it says he can't figure it out either.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]

Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]

Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]

Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
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fLameDogg
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

"Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> wrote in
news:wvoJc.81403$a24.43341@attbi_s03:

Quote:

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]
Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.

That's okay, you're not raining on my parade. It's double the memory (1
512 stick as opposed to two 128s), and its PC 3200, so odds are good I can
use it on down the line (I don't buy cutting edge; I stay about a year back
or more).

I just stuck in the Rosewill and both (GNU) Linux and Windows are happy
with it. I put the two SDRAM sticks in this here backup box along with a
third, and Windows 98 is doing fine. Now to check out Fedora Core 2--128
MB wasn't enough, it ran like a--er--dogg under X.

Thanks for your input. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a *big*
difference between SDRAM and DDR. What makes me happy is we seem to get
the best deal on the fairly current RAM--I mean, not that I checked too
heavily, but I think it would have cost me more to buy more SDRAM. Happily
the K7S5A takes either, and my older K7VMA gets the hand-me-down SDRAM.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Enjoy,
It should work just great.

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

That's okay, you're not raining on my parade. It's double the
memory (1
512 stick as opposed to two 128s), and its PC 3200, so odds are good
I can
use it on down the line (I don't buy cutting edge; I stay about a
year back
or more).

I just stuck in the Rosewill and both (GNU) Linux and Windows are
happy
with it. I put the two SDRAM sticks in this here backup box along
with a
third, and Windows 98 is doing fine. Now to check out Fedora Core
2--128
MB wasn't enough, it ran like a--er--dogg under X.

Thanks for your input. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a
*big*
difference between SDRAM and DDR. What makes me happy is we seem to
get
the best deal on the fairly current RAM--I mean, not that I checked
too
heavily, but I think it would have cost me more to buy more SDRAM.
Happily
the K7S5A takes either, and my older K7VMA gets the hand-me-down
SDRAM.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Le 13/07/2004 11:46, Doughnut a ecrit :

Quote:
DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a while.

please
can you tell board and bios revision
type of cpu and numbers of chips on your pc3200.
i have a K7S5A and PC3200 and it dont boot.
thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Le 13/07/2004 02:48, fLameDogg a ecrit :

Quote:
I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
....
I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.

i have a K7S5A and tried PC3200 memory (two brand and two size tested on asus
board with memcheck) dont boot.
most people tell it should work but none of them has tried it.
unfortunately a don't have acces to PC2100, PC2700 and xp of different
speed to test and find what is the problem.
official doc tell PC3200 is not supported but i have to check sis735 spec.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Franck Pissotte wrote:
Quote:

please
can you tell board and bios revision
type of cpu and numbers of chips on your pc3200.
i have a K7S5A and PC3200 and it dont boot.
thanks

Your PSU may not be powerful enough. I couldn't get my K7S5a Pro to
boot with PC3200 memory, and the most likely cause was that my PSU only
has 175 watts on the 3.3v and 5v rails. I'm going to pick up a 500w
supply at Cals tomorrow, I'm fairly certain it should fix my boot issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: DDR Memory for K7S5A Reply with quote

Franck Pissotte <franck.pissotte@alussinan.org> wrote in
news:2mekjjFlgcueU1@uni-berlin.de:

Quote:
have a K7S5A and tried PC3200 memory (two brand and two size tested
on asus
board with memcheck) dont boot.
most people tell it should work but none of them has tried it.
unfortunately a don't have acces to PC2100, PC2700 and xp of different
speed to test and find what is the problem.
official doc tell PC3200 is not supported but i have to check sis735
spec.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Just to give you a data point, my
Rosewill 512MB stick of PC3200 is booting and working just fine on the
K7S5A. I note that someone mentioned your power supply. I have a fairly
decent Antec TruPower 340W in my box. Just switched out the GeForce 2 for
a Radeon 9100, and so far so good. The processor is an XP 1600+.

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