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Bart van der Wolf
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 Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:00 am Post subject: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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Although I have to do some more testing for a final verdict, I suggest
getting the latest version if you use the above mentioned combination.
Ed Hamrick has improved the calibration of the SE5400 with VueScan, and it
looks vastly improved (on my scanner at least). It should result in better
shadow contrast of slides and improved highlight contrast in Color
Negatives. Color balancing should also be easier and more accurate.
Do make new profiles if you produced them earlier...
Have a nice weekend,
Bart |
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Bart van der Wolf
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Although I have to do some more testing for a final verdict, I suggest
getting the latest version if you use the above mentioned combination.
Ed Hamrick has improved the calibration of the SE5400 with VueScan, and it
looks vastly improved (on my scanner at least). It should result in better
shadow contrast of slides and improved highlight contrast in Color
Negatives. Color balancing should also be easier and more accurate.
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Contrary to my initial tests (Windows version), all of a sudden the results
are very poor again :-( Last night the relative D-max values (CTRL+mouse
hover) showed values well in the 3+ area, now they get limited to 2.10 or
thereabout, same ini file and target.
Another thing is that I sometimes get a totally black Preview, but when
moving i.e. the blackpoint a notch everything comes back. Something is not
stable.
Does anyone else notice this?
Bart |
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Mark L Caton
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message
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"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message
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Although I have to do some more testing for a final verdict, I suggest
getting the latest version if you use the above mentioned combination.
Ed Hamrick has improved the calibration of the SE5400 with VueScan, and
it
looks vastly improved (on my scanner at least). It should result in
better
shadow contrast of slides and improved highlight contrast in Color
Negatives. Color balancing should also be easier and more accurate.
Contrary to my initial tests (Windows version), all of a sudden the
results
are very poor again :-( Last night the relative D-max values (CTRL+mouse
hover) showed values well in the 3+ area, now they get limited to 2.10 or
thereabout, same ini file and target.
Another thing is that I sometimes get a totally black Preview, but when
moving i.e. the blackpoint a notch everything comes back. Something is not
stable.
Does anyone else notice this?
Bart
For me, (using 5400) the preview (using Slide or Image), is much improved, |
but the resulting scan is semi-posterised, with purple fringing. This is
with light IR, no grain dissolver, or reduction,.48 bit.
Mark
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thomas
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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I agree that this version looks quite improved for Minolta 5400.
Thanks Ed! Grain dissolver still does not work 100 % on my computer.
Pictures loose some punch. But now as I got neatimage I do not believe
I need the grain dissolver.
However I got anothet question. I normally scan at 2700 as the 5400
files are quite time consuming to work with on my computer. I heard it
would be better to scan at 5400 and then make a reduction in output
with a factor 2. I can not find this gives any significant increase in
picture quality only takes more time. What is your opinion?
Regards
Thomasd
"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message news:<4009f6e3$0$320$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...
| Quote: | Although I have to do some more testing for a final verdict, I suggest
getting the latest version if you use the above mentioned combination.
Ed Hamrick has improved the calibration of the SE5400 with VueScan, and it
looks vastly improved (on my scanner at least). It should result in better
shadow contrast of slides and improved highlight contrast in Color
Negatives. Color balancing should also be easier and more accurate.
Do make new profiles if you produced them earlier...
Have a nice weekend,
Bart |
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Bart van der Wolf
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:40 am Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"thomas" <orch02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree that this version looks quite improved for Minolta 5400.
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My later experience is mixed, Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
| Quote: | Thanks Ed! Grain dissolver still does not work 100 % on my computer.
Pictures loose some punch. But now as I got neatimage I do not believe
I need the grain dissolver.
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Yes, NeatImage does a remarkable job, however, it tries to fix somethings
that can be partially avoided in the first place.
| Quote: | However I got anothet question. I normally scan at 2700 as the 5400
files are quite time consuming to work with on my computer. I heard it
would be better to scan at 5400 and then make a reduction in output
with a factor 2. I can not find this gives any significant increase in
picture quality only takes more time. What is your opinion?
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Yes it does increase picture quality, but whether it's significant depends
on the film. It is exactly what I do if I need a smaller file. The benefit
is mostly in noise reduction. File "Size reduction" by a factor 2 is similar
(but stil better) to taking 4 samples per pixel, which on average reduces
random noise by a factor of 2 (so down to 50%). A "Size reduction" factor 3,
takes 9 samples (noise down to 33%). This noise is not the same as
graininess. It is "still better" because it reduces aliasing, including
Grain-alaising.
Bart |
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Wilfred van der Vegte
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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Bart van der Wolf wrote:
| Quote: | Contrary to my initial tests (Windows version), all of a sudden the results
are very poor again :-( Last night the relative D-max values (CTRL+mouse
hover) showed values well in the 3+ area, now they get limited to 2.10 or
thereabout, same ini file and target.
Another thing is that I sometimes get a totally black Preview, but when
moving i.e. the blackpoint a notch everything comes back. Something is not
stable.
Does anyone else notice this?
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I had another strange experience with the test version that I downloaded
(according to Ed, this is now released as version 7.6.73). When
scanning Velvia slides with IR cleaning on, some of the darker areas in
the slide, plus a radius of several pixels around them were mistaken for
defects, resulting in large areas that came out blurred in the final
version.
I will have to do some more testing to check if this behavior is consistent.
--
Wilfred van der Vegte.
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thomas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message news:<400ad303$0$316$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...
| Quote: | "thomas" <orch02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:561cfe61.0401180938.6b881db3@posting.google.com...
I agree that this version looks quite improved for Minolta 5400.
My later experience is mixed, Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks Ed! Grain dissolver still does not work 100 % on my computer.
Pictures loose some punch. But now as I got neatimage I do not believe
I need the grain dissolver.
Yes, NeatImage does a remarkable job, however, it tries to fix somethings
that can be partially avoided in the first place.
However I got anothet question. I normally scan at 2700 as the 5400
files are quite time consuming to work with on my computer. I heard it
would be better to scan at 5400 and then make a reduction in output
with a factor 2. I can not find this gives any significant increase in
picture quality only takes more time. What is your opinion?
Yes it does increase picture quality, but whether it's significant depends
on the film. It is exactly what I do if I need a smaller file. The benefit
is mostly in noise reduction. File "Size reduction" by a factor 2 is similar
(but stil better) to taking 4 samples per pixel, which on average reduces
random noise by a factor of 2 (so down to 50%). A "Size reduction" factor 3,
takes 9 samples (noise down to 33%). This noise is not the same as
graininess. It is "still better" because it reduces aliasing, including
Grain-alaising.
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Sorry for getting bit confused but my english is not so good. Do you
recommend that I should use both multisampling (4 or 9) and "size
reduction" by a factor of 2 (or more depending on the file size I
want) or only multisampling instead of size "size reduction"?
Thanks for info.
Regards
Thomas
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Mark L Caton
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"Mark L Caton" <mark.l.caton@nobtspaminternet.com> wrote in message
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"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message
news:400aa3d2$0$314$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote in message
news:4009f6e3$0$320$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
Although I have to do some more testing for a final verdict, I suggest
getting the latest version if you use the above mentioned combination.
Ed Hamrick has improved the calibration of the SE5400 with VueScan,
and
it
looks vastly improved (on my scanner at least). It should result in
better
shadow contrast of slides and improved highlight contrast in Color
Negatives. Color balancing should also be easier and more accurate.
Contrary to my initial tests (Windows version), all of a sudden the
results
are very poor again :-( Last night the relative D-max values
(CTRL+mouse
hover) showed values well in the 3+ area, now they get limited to 2.10
or
thereabout, same ini file and target.
Another thing is that I sometimes get a totally black Preview, but when
moving i.e. the blackpoint a notch everything comes back. Something is
not
stable.
Does anyone else notice this?
Bart
For me, (using 5400) the preview (using Slide or Image), is much improved,
but the resulting scan is semi-posterised, with purple fringing. This is
with light IR, no grain dissolver, or reduction,.48 bit.
Mark
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I need to qualify my comments, after further tests. The issue I report above
was with Long Exposure Pass set to on. Setting this off gives a normal, (in
fact improved over version .72) scan.
FYI this is with Velvia film.
Mark
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Bart van der Wolf
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: VueScan for SE5400 improved! |
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"thomas" <orch02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Sorry for getting bit confused but my english is not so good. Do you
recommend that I should use both multisampling (4 or 9) and "size
reduction" by a factor of 2 (or more depending on the file size I
want) or only multisampling instead of size "size reduction"?
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No, only "size reduction" if you want smaller files. It will have a better
result than scanning smaller with multisampling.
Bart |
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