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Richard Steinfeld
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Lexmark Z65 Printer Reply with quote

What?
Nobody's got anything to say about this printer? (Not even The Troll?)
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Taliesyn
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Lexmark Z65 Printer Reply with quote

Richard Steinfeld wrote:
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What?
Nobody's got anything to say about this printer? (Not even The Troll?)


I don't see the "Troll" anymore as I've filtered out any posts with his
name in it - also ones where he posts under his real name.

As for the Z65... I had its lesser cousin, the Z55. The cabinet had a
futuristically goofy shape. But in fact it was a very basic printer with
VERY few print options, unlike the various Canons I currently use. It
printed graphics very well, photos not so. Kind of washed out unless you
boosted - greatly! - all the vital print settings. I ran it for almost
2 years with the same two original Black and Color cartridges, refilling
them myself. The print options were just too limited for my more
complicated printing needs. About the only thing I liked on it was the
automatic printhead alignment feature, something Canon didn't
incorporate until their i860 model, which came out a year after the Z55,
I believe. The Z55 also had the nasty habit of jamming sometimes in its
earnest effort to quickly feed the paper. And the paper would always
feed slightly crooked. Not good for those of us needing precise
printing. I got a little fed up after a while and moved to the Canon
i850, i860, the iP5000 and iP4000. The last three I still have and
operate successfully, strictly with refills otherwise I couldn't afford
to run even one using OEM inks.

-Taliesyn
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measekite
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Lexmark Z65 Printer Reply with quote

Richard Steinfeld wrote:
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Taliesyn wrote:

As for the Z65... I had its lesser cousin, the Z55. The cabinet had a
futuristically goofy shape.

I really dislike this type of industrial design -- it's not only ugly
to look at, but wasteful of space; the printer could be smaller and
maybe more practical, too.

But in fact it was a very basic printer with
VERY few print options, unlike the various Canons I currently use. It
printed graphics very well, photos not so. Kind of washed out unless you
boosted - greatly! - all the vital print settings. I ran it for almost
2 years with the same two original Black and Color cartridges, refilling
them myself.

Whose ink can you recommend to me for these printers? Any significant
"gotchas" in the refill process?

Since it is a Lexmark you can use any crappie relabeled ink. It makes
no difference. Use the cheapest you can find.
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The print options were just too limited for my more
complicated printing needs. About the only thing I liked on it was the
automatic printhead alignment feature, something Canon didn't
incorporate until their i860 model, which came out a year after the Z55,
I believe. The Z55 also had the nasty habit of jamming sometimes in its
earnest effort to quickly feed the paper. And the paper would always
feed slightly crooked. Not good for those of us needing precise
printing. I got a little fed up after a while and moved to the Canon
i850, i860, the iP5000 and iP4000. The last three I still have and
operate successfully, strictly with refills otherwise I couldn't afford
to run even one using OEM inks.

I noticed this skewed misfeed issue immediately. The Z65 has two paper
slots. The #1 slot has the automatic paper type sensing "feature."
This is the feeder that screws up. The #2 slot is manually pre-set.
That one feeds nicely. I am not impressed with the excessive speed
with which this machine hurls paper into itself; this coupled with
what appears to be the design to pull the paper in from only one side,
at least in the #1 slot, is what I'm certain causes the misfeed.
Sometimes, slower is better.

It's also a top-loader. I'm underwhelmed with this design because
there's no practical way to keep the paper and feeder from picking up
dust and shmutzing up the innards. I bought a used Brother laser
printer for my son that's designed similarly. And, man; you should see
the amount of crap that I cleaned out of the thing! And since
household dust is abrasive (and a laser printer's drum can be damaged
by excessive abrasion), the result of this type of engineering could
be early degrading of the expensive drum. Is this stupid design or what?
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Richard Steinfeld
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Lexmark Z65 Printer Reply with quote

measekite wrote:
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Since it is a Lexmark you can use any crappie relabeled ink. It makes
no difference. Use the cheapest you can find.

Since this was "contributed" by our troll, I know that the person spends
so much time submitting predictable, condescending posts, that he has no
experience whatsoever with printers and ink. He makes it all up easily
because he says the same things repeatedly.

The reason that he has no knowledge is simple: he has no time to obtain
any experience because he posts crap from dawn to dusk; then sleeps.
What he says makes no difference.
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Brendan R. Wehrung
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Lexmark Z65 Printer Reply with quote

Richard Steinfeld (rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net) writes:
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Thanks to both of you, Taliesyn and Brendan. That's the kind of stuff I
need to know.

Brendan, as I mentioned in the original post, I was given this printer
by an old woman as I walked along the street past her house. She said
that it "wouldn't work" and that the ribbon cable looked like it was
broken. Actually, the carriage was just stuck on the left side; it
responded nicely to a gentle push. (Is that where the ink station is?)

It's working nicely now, but won't print hardly at all due to dried out
carts. I've attempted to get them flowing by planting them on wet paper
towels overnight (distilled water), but I think that they're kinda empty.

The first think that I needed to do was to somehow determine whether the
thing was usable before spending good money on cartridges. Now, I'm
pondering the next step. I've got three *working* printers already, so I
can take my time with this thing. From what you said, B, it sounds like
I've got to see if I can get at the rollers and clean them. No? Is is
possible for an ordinary talented repair guy like myself to get inside
this piece of offensive "artwork" to clean it out?


One thing I can tell you is that Lexmark's idea of a cleaning cycle seems
to be to blow ink into a little tub to (I think, without looking) the far
right. Eventually this fills up and leaves ink on the bottom of the
printhead, causing streaks. You can see how much the printer has been
used by shining a flashlight in there. I've had to clean the resulting
mound of ink poop with a series of wet Q-tips a couple of times.

Brendan
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