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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Hello newsgroup,

I finaly decided to get a card with a x1950 pro chip. But I don't want
to spend much on it. I am torn apart between these two cards:

palit/xpertvision RX1950PRO 512 mb ram

and Asus EAX1950PRO 256 mb ram


the former has more ram, but clocks at 575 mhz (chip) and 1380 mhz
(ram)

the asus clocks at 581 mhz (chip) and 1400 mhz (ram).

So, what is more important? More ram or higher clock?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

The difference in clock speed is only about 1%, negligible. In this case the
512 MB card is better.

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<PSiegmann@mail.nu> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hello newsgroup,

I finaly decided to get a card with a x1950 pro chip. But I don't want
to spend much on it. I am torn apart between these two cards:

palit/xpertvision RX1950PRO 512 mb ram

and Asus EAX1950PRO 256 mb ram


the former has more ram, but clocks at 575 mhz (chip) and 1380 mhz
(ram)

the asus clocks at 581 mhz (chip) and 1400 mhz (ram).

So, what is more important? More ram or higher clock?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

<PSiegmann@mail.nu> wrote in message
news:1180993425.177139.9200@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Hello newsgroup,

I finaly decided to get a card with a x1950 pro chip. But I don't want
to spend much on it. I am torn apart between these two cards:

palit/xpertvision RX1950PRO 512 mb ram

and Asus EAX1950PRO 256 mb ram


the former has more ram, but clocks at 575 mhz (chip) and 1380 mhz
(ram)

the asus clocks at 581 mhz (chip) and 1400 mhz (ram).

So, what is more important? More ram or higher clock?

I hope you are just kidding. The difference between 581 & 575? I doubt if an
eagle can notice it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

On 5 Jun., 07:18, "FKS" <f...@fks.com> wrote:

Quote:

I hope you are just kidding. The difference between 581 & 575? I doubt if an
eagle can notice it.


Well, I am still a pupil of the old school. The difference between an
i386 with 25 mhz and one with 33 mhz was quite big in its day.. I just
can't lose this mindset.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Quote:
Well, I am still a pupil of the old school. The difference between an
i386 with 25 mhz and one with 33 mhz was quite big in its day.. I just
can't lose this mindset.

From a 25Mhz 386DX to a 33Mhz 386DX represented a 28% increase in total
clock speed. From a 575 to 581Mhz GPU is a 1% increase. The RAM is a 1.45%
increase.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Err.pardon me, your math is different than mine. 256 or 512 is 100%
difference in my books.

"Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Well, I am still a pupil of the old school. The difference between an
i386 with 25 mhz and one with 33 mhz was quite big in its day.. I just
can't lose this mindset.

From a 25Mhz 386DX to a 33Mhz 386DX represented a 28% increase in total
clock speed. From a 575 to 581Mhz GPU is a 1% increase. The RAM is a 1.45%
increase.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

"James H" <jamesh37@qwest.nospam.net> wrote in message
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Err.pardon me, your math is different than mine. 256 or 512 is 100%
difference in my books.

There's nothing wrong with my math. I suggest you reread the previous post.
He comments on the difference in Mhz of two old 386 Intel CPU's, and in the
original post he asks about the memory and GPU frequency of two similar 1950
Pro cards and asks if the difference in speed is of any real consequence or
is more dediacted video ram better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Quote:
There's nothing wrong with my math. I suggest you reread the previous
post. He comments on the difference in Mhz of two old 386 Intel CPU's, and
in the original post he asks about the memory and GPU frequency of two
similar 1950 Pro cards and asks if the difference in speed is of any real
consequence or is more dediacted video ram better.

A RAM increase of 1.45% of course refers to the increase in frequency from
1380 to 1400Mhz.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Quote:
There's nothing wrong with my math. I suggest you reread the previous
post. He comments on the difference in Mhz of two old 386 Intel CPU's,
and in the original post he asks about the memory and GPU frequency of
two similar 1950 Pro cards and asks if the difference in speed is of any
real consequence or is more dediacted video ram better.

A RAM increase of 1.45% of course refers to the increase in frequency
from 1380 to 1400Mhz.


THAT IS THE SPEED OF RAM, and not the amount. DUH!

And thats what was being discussed if you were to actually read the posts.
Perhaps you better leave the discussion with bigger words for the adults.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

You must be high on crack or something.


palit/xpertvision RX1950PRO 512 mb ram

and Asus EAX1950PRO 256 mb ram


How are these two cards simular?
AGAIN 256 X100%=512. DUH!



"Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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"James H" <jamesh37@qwest.nospam.net> wrote in message
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Err.pardon me, your math is different than mine. 256 or 512 is 100%
difference in my books.

There's nothing wrong with my math. I suggest you reread the previous
post. He comments on the difference in Mhz of two old 386 Intel CPU's, and
in the original post he asks about the memory and GPU frequency of two
similar 1950 Pro cards and asks if the difference in speed is of any real
consequence or is more dediacted video ram better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

"Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
There's nothing wrong with my math. I suggest you reread the previous
post. He comments on the difference in Mhz of two old 386 Intel CPU's,
and in the original post he asks about the memory and GPU frequency of
two similar 1950 Pro cards and asks if the difference in speed is of any
real consequence or is more dediacted video ram better.

A RAM increase of 1.45% of course refers to the increase in frequency from
1380 to 1400Mhz.


THAT IS THE SPEED OF RAM, and not the amount. DUH!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

James H wrote:
Quote:
You must be high on crack or something.


palit/xpertvision RX1950PRO 512 mb ram

and Asus EAX1950PRO 256 mb ram


How are these two cards simular?
AGAIN 256 X100%=512. DUH!

100 percent has a decimal value of 1.

For your equation to be correct, it would have to read as follows:

256 x 200% = 512

I don't think their will be much of a speed increase. Most games don't
require more than 128MB, so much of the RAM goes to waste.

Good for the DRAM companies however, selling us on the 'more RAM means
more FPS' myth.

Shop on clock speeds, pipelines, RAM interface width. Worry about the
amount of RAM last. If it only costs a little more to go to 512, do it.
But shop on a bang for the buck basis.

Rob
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Higher clock or more ram? Reply with quote

Quote:
THAT IS THE SPEED OF RAM, and not the amount. DUH!

Read the posts, moron.
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