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Craig
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 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: failing to verify |
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I have a samsung dvd burner, using nero 6 software, windows xp sp2, 512 mb
ram, athlon 2600 processor. It burns fine. I can take the dvd disk out and
play it on the home dvd player. Problem is with the burning process, it's
failing to verify the disk.
Could a anti-spyware program cause this problem? There seems to be some lag
in the burner reading the disk. When I put in a blank disk it takes a moment
(maybe 10 seconds or so) to read the disk. I'm wondering if that's what is
causing this problem I don't have this problem with cd's, just dvd's. Very
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Frank McCoy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
| Quote: | Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net
wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Blank discs aren't blank.
Some unformatted floppies are.
Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
Roses." You should see it.
Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip
Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank. |
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Damian
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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Frank McCoy wrote:
| Quote: | In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Blank discs aren't blank.
Some unformatted floppies are.
Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
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Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was Roses."
You should see it. |
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chrisv
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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Frank McCoy wrote:
| Quote: | In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net
wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Blank discs aren't blank.
Some unformatted floppies are.
Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was
Roses." You should see it.
Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip
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Frank McCoy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Blank discs aren't blank.
Some unformatted floppies are.
Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject Was Roses."
You should see it.
Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; but you *CAN* |
completely wipe a floppy with a strong magnetic field; just like you can
magnetic tape. In fact, I have an eraser I made specifically for
floppies, somewhere around here. Built from an old AC fan-motor, with
the gap widened at the rear to strengthen it at the front.
The NSA, CIA, FBI, nor the KGB could recover data erased from such a
floppy. There ain't nothing there TO recover. Works only with
floppies, because it's almost impossible to get *that* strong a magnetic
field into a hard-drive with its design and basic shielding ... Though I
once designed a circuit that I think would do the job about a dozen
years ago. Never saw the need to implement it though. Would be a bit
dangerous ....
Basically, huge capacitors and a big coil.
**!WHAM!**
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Julie
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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Frank McCoy wrote:
| Quote: | In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid
wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian"
nospam@rabid-dog.net> wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "relic"
invalid.address@relic211.cjb.net> wrote:
Blank discs aren't blank.
Some unformatted floppies are.
Same thing with unwritten CD-ROM disks.
Several years ago there was a good movie called, "The Subject
Was Roses." You should see it.
Don't see what that movie had to do with blank disks; <snip
Would it make sense if he had said "The Subject Was DVDs"?
Possibly; but blank DVDs like blank CDs *are* blank.
I buy a hundred or so DVDs a month. None I've bought so far have
been completely blank, they all have had format information so the
OS and Apps can recognize what they are. Where do you get your
"blank" DVDs? ...and how do you get them to work.
Look again.
They ARE blank.
No format information on them or even needed.
They write their own when you write the disk.
If you look closely at the active side of a CD or DVD, you can even
SEE the areas that are written, and those that are not.
Look at them under a microscope, if you want to see the exact
details.
Unwritten CDs and DVDs are blank; I repeat: BLANK!
They'd be pretty much useless if they weren't.
I'm not quite sure how rewritable CDs and DVDs work when writing
over a given track.
Download this freebie, read a "blank" (according to you) DVD and then
explain the data you just read from it.
http://www.vso-software.fr/products/inspector/inspector.php
After that, you may *** off.
You mean the information that tells what size the disk is and what
speed it supports?
Yeah, real data there.
NOT.
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Sorry idiot, it IS real data... including the Manufacturer.
Now, like relic suggested, "you may *** off."
<rest of frank's *** snipped... unread>
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relic
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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Julie wrote:
| Quote: | Rebecca wrote:
Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net
wrote:
Craig wrote:
"Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
The drive might need replacing too.
I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles,
but I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a
try.
You'll be needing this:
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dvd-rom-dvd-writers/p/7/sortby=priceA
Possibly.
But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the
scrap heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started
up. So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the
bearings, and got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data
over
onto another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work
for over two more years; but it was relegated to the
"non-trustworthy" set. When you have to trash something anyway,
sometimes it PAYS to ignore
advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing.
After all, what have you got to lose?
I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely*
unrecommended by the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money
out of
selling new mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running
as good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still
have one out in the garage that still works after close to fifty
years now ... One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than
the price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under
the thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to
work, then it saves a bunch of money.
If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
Geesh.
If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already
dead drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device,
actually make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's
going in the trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead
drive. So bloody WHAT?
Geesh.
If you're trying to be "helpful",
instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
why not give a valid alternative?
That's a "stand-alone" if I ever saw one. No comment necessary.
The classic back-peddle.
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Julie
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: Re: failing to verify |
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Rebecca wrote:
| Quote: | Frank McCoy wrote:
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Damian" <nospam@rabid-dog.net
wrote:
Craig wrote:
"Frank McCoy" <mccoyf@millcomm.com> wrote in message
news:4ll663hlubtp2rbip3h3a93lhj1n40sglk@4ax.com...
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Franc Zabkar
fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
Or try getting a CD/DVD cleaner.
The drive might need replacing too.
I've got a cd\dvd cleaner, one of those with the small bristles,
but I'm not sure how well they actually work, but I'll give it a
try.
You'll be needing this:
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/dvd-rom-dvd-writers/p/7/sortby=priceA
Possibly.
But if the laser is dirty, he'd need that anyway.
Sometimes it pays to do things with stuff that's going into the scrap
heap that isn't recommended for working devices.
Just like they say, NEVER EVER open a hard-drive.
I've had a couple with bad bearings that couldn't even be started up.
So, against all advice, I opened the drive, lubricated the bearings,
and got the thing to work well enough that I copied the data over
onto another drive. The relubricated drive then continued to work
for over two more years; but it was relegated to the
"non-trustworthy" set. When you have to trash something anyway, sometimes
it PAYS to ignore
advice against doing things that will supposedly ruin the thing.
After all, what have you got to lose?
I learned this as a kid, when my mother used to throw out old
alarm-clocks that didn't work. I salvaged them, took them apart,
cleaned them, and put them back together. *Completely* unrecommended
by the manufacturer, you understand, who made good money out of
selling new mechanical clocks about every year or so to people.
The first two or three I took apart, I never managed to get back
together. From then on, only about one in ten didn't resume running
as good or better than from the factory, when I finished. I still
have one out in the garage that still works after close to fifty
years now ... One my mother had discarded because it was "broke".
What loss is it if you "break" something that's already broken?
And a CD drive with a dirty laser head is just that: Something you
SCRAP, not repair. Taking it to a repairman would cost more than the
price of a new drive. However, running a "cleaning disk" under the
thing costs a buck or two at most; and if it gets the drive to work,
then it saves a bunch of money.
If not, then you haven't lost much, have you?
Certainly not a good drive, which you didn't have anyway.
Geesh.
If it won't write properly, then *TRY* cleaning it.
If that doesn't work, THEN throw it away and buy a new one.
Complaining that using a cleaning-disk *might* destroy an already
dead drive is ... Well, pretty dumb, in my opinion.
Many things that are quite dumb to do with a *working* device,
actually make quite good sense to try and rescue something that's
going in the trash otherwise. So you might destroy an already dead
drive. So bloody WHAT?
Geesh.
If you're trying to be "helpful",
instead of yelling, "Don't do that!"
why not give a valid alternative?
That's a "stand-alone" if I ever saw one. No comment necessary.
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The classic back-peddle.
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