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M.L.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:

1.) Allow insertion of background image into the template and allows one
to resize and position the label over the CD/DVD template with WYSIWYG
view.

2.) Rulers/Guides that allow one to position images exactly to the
center or elsewhere on the template.

3.) Can print 2 labels on an 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper (Avery, Fellowes,
Memorex template papers, etc.)

4.) Allows printing over the donut-hole on the CD/DVD.

The following features would be nice too, but are not critical:

5.) Allows writing text onto the CD/DVD label.

6.) Supports adding drop-shadows onto text and objects.

7.) Allows import of transparent png images as overlays, and allows
setting z-order of those images.

8.) Export label to jpg, png, or bmp (as a square image without the
center hole).

I know that PhotoShop can do those tasks but I can't find a PhotoShop
template that prints 2 labels to a page.

Finally, links to CD/DVD label templates with high-style graphics (like
those with Ulead PhotoImpact) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
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I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:

Sure Thing from MicroVision Development.


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M.L.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
Quote:
I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:

Sure Thing from MicroVision Development.

Thanks for your prompt response. I'm looking over it at the website
http://www.surething.com/ST/ right now.
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Dan G
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
"M.L." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:


If you're putting labels on CDs, you're risking problems.

If you're putting labels on DVD's, you could well be throwing your discs
away.

Inkjet printable discs is the way to go. The media costs a bit more, but the
printing is cheaper cause you don't have to buy labels. And, the results are
stunning with the right media.
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Talker
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Mon, 28 May 2007 02:31:46 GMT, "M.L." <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Quote:
I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:

Sure Thing from MicroVision Development.

Thanks for your prompt response. I'm looking over it at the website
http://www.surething.com/ST/ right now.


Years ago I used a similar program to make labels for CDs, and I
found them to be expensive and they peeled off easily. Of course that
was years ago, so maybe things have changed. I do remember that it
was not recommended to apply a label to a DVD, since it would
unbalance it and make the DVD unreadable.
Just a thought M.L., but have you considered a CD/DVD printer?
Epson makes the R260 which replaces the R220 (my printer) and they go
for $90.
I have been using my R220 now for over a year, and I love it. It
prints on printable CD/DVDs, and they cost a few cents more than a
regular blank disk. I use the better quality blank media....Verbatim
DataLife Plus printable disks, and I just ordered some single layer
DVDs from Meritline for 41¢ a piece.
These blank disks have a special top coating that allows
printing, and the coatings have never come off on me. The self stick
labels I used to print would come off over time, making the disk
unreadable. At 18¢ per self stick label, it's cheaper to buy the
printable disks and print on them as opposed to buying the labels,
printing on them, and sticking them on and hoping they don't come
off.
Also, the R260 comes with software that allows you to design your
own label, including importing your own images. It perfectly aligns
the template with the disk, so you rarely have an alignment problem.
Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it.

Talker
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Dave
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:28:05 -0600, "Dan G"
Quote:

If you're putting labels on CDs, you're risking problems.

If you're putting labels on DVD's, you could well be throwing your discs
away.

Inkjet printable discs is the way to go. The media costs a bit more, but the
printing is cheaper cause you don't have to buy labels. And, the results are
stunning with the right media.


And you are saying this with an attitude as if you know what you are
talking. What if people are stupid enough to believe you?

Dave
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Allen
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
Dave wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:28:05 -0600, "Dan G"
If you're putting labels on CDs, you're risking problems.

If you're putting labels on DVD's, you could well be throwing your discs
away.

Inkjet printable discs is the way to go. The media costs a bit more, but the
printing is cheaper cause you don't have to buy labels. And, the results are
stunning with the right media.


And you are saying this with an attitude as if you know what you are
talking. What if people are stupid enough to believe you?

Dave

Oh, well, I guess I should throw away all the CDs I've put labels on for

the past six plus years, even if every one of them still plays without
any problem. However, I have ruined _unlabeled_ CD-Rs by accidentally
scratching the surface that would have been protected by a label. C'est
la vie.
Allen
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Dave
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:50:52 -0500, Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote:

Quote:
Dave wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:28:05 -0600, "Dan G"
If you're putting labels on CDs, you're risking problems.

If you're putting labels on DVD's, you could well be throwing your discs
away.

Inkjet printable discs is the way to go. The media costs a bit more, but the
printing is cheaper cause you don't have to buy labels. And, the results are
stunning with the right media.


And you are saying this with an attitude as if you know what you are
talking. What if people are stupid enough to believe you?

Dave

Oh, well, I guess I should throw away all the CDs I've put labels on for
the past six plus years, even if every one of them still plays without
any problem. However, I have ruined _unlabeled_ CD-Rs by accidentally
scratching the surface that would have been protected by a label. C'est
la vie.
Allen


The truth is, Allen, I am using
1. LightScribe labeling (installed yesterday my 2nd LG_LS writer)
2. Inkjet Printable
3. Stick_on labels
4. Marking Pen (most handy)
and all of them are use full. LightScribe is quite nice
and I doubt whether it is cheaper than printable
because the disks are more expensive.
Therefore, most disks get labeled by marking pen:-)

Dave
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
Quote:
Looking for 2-up CD label software or template

Hope this helps: http://www.photoshopsupport.com/tutorials/cd-labels-dvd-labels-templates/cd-dvd-labels-printing.html


On May 28, 3:35 pm, Dave <d...@d.durbs> wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:50:52 -0500, Allen <a...@nothere.net> wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:28:05 -0600, "Dan G"
If you're putting labels on CDs, you're risking problems.

If you're putting labels on DVD's, you could well be throwing your discs
away.

Inkjet printable discs is the way to go. The media costs a bit more, but the
printing is cheaper cause you don't have to buy labels. And, the results are
stunning with the right media.

And you are saying this with an attitude as if you know what you are
talking. What if people are stupid enough to believe you?

Dave

Oh, well, I guess I should throw away all the CDs I've put labels on for
the past six plus years, even if every one of them still plays without
any problem. However, I have ruined _unlabeled_ CD-Rs by accidentally
scratching the surface that would have been protected by a label. C'est
la vie.
Allen

The truth is, Allen, I am using
1. LightScribe labeling (installed yesterday my 2nd LG_LS writer)
2. Inkjet Printable
3. Stick_on labels
4. Marking Pen (most handy)
and all of them are use full. LightScribe is quite nice
and I doubt whether it is cheaper than printable
because the disks are more expensive.
Therefore, most disks get labeled by marking pen:-)

Dave

Hi
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M.L.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
Quote:
Looking for 2-up CD label software or template

Hope this helps:
http://www.photoshopsupport.com/tutorials/cd-labels-dvd-labels-templates/cd-dvd-labels-printing.html

Thanks to everyone who responded. I decided to download some
PhotoShop-compatible templates for my occasional use of that program.
But it's good to know that there are some user-friendly programs
designed specifically for CD/DVD labeling. However, after my original
post I learned how to use PhotoImpact for the labels, so I'll be using
that app, or PhotoShop - or my Sharpie :-)
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
"M.L." <me@privacy.net> found these unused words:

Quote:
I'm looking for a CD label-making program that can do the following 4
tasks:

1.) Allow insertion of background image into the template and allows one
to resize and position the label over the CD/DVD template with WYSIWYG
view.

PhotoShop

Quote:
2.) Rulers/Guides that allow one to position images exactly to the
center or elsewhere on the template.

PhotoShop


Quote:
3.) Can print 2 labels on an 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper (Avery, Fellowes,
Memorex template papers, etc.)

PhotoShop


Quote:
4.) Allows printing over the donut-hole on the CD/DVD.

PhotoShop


Quote:
The following features would be nice too, but are not critical:

5.) Allows writing text onto the CD/DVD label.

PhotoShop


Quote:
6.) Supports adding drop-shadows onto text and objects.

PhotoShop


Quote:
7.) Allows import of transparent png images as overlays, and allows
setting z-order of those images.

8.) Export label to jpg, png, or bmp (as a square image without the
center hole).

PhotoShop


Quote:
I know that PhotoShop can do those tasks but I can't find a PhotoShop
template that prints 2 labels to a page.

SCAN in your sheet of labels, add a layer with necessary 'guides'. Make one,
SAVE AS, then merge down short of the base and guides, copy and paste over
2nd. Save again if you don't ever plan to re-edit that disc.

FWIW, I don't show the base and guides when I print.

Quote:
Finally, links to CD/DVD label templates with high-style graphics (like
those with Ulead PhotoImpact) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Guest
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:50:52 -0500, Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote:

Quote:
Oh, well, I guess I should throw away all the CDs I've put labels on for
the past six plus years, even if every one of them still plays without
any problem. However, I have ruined _unlabeled_ CD-Rs by accidentally
scratching the surface that would have been protected by a label. C'est
la vie.

It has been widely reported that labels can ruin burned CDs, and I
can add personal experience making those reports even wider. 3+ years
ago my brother used labels on some burned CD Audio disks. They all
*** the bed recently. Well, some were worse than others, and some
hadn't showed symptoms yet, but the error rates were through the roof,
it was just a matter of time. I know that his burner/media combination
yielded excellent burn quality, and I know that unlabeled disks
exposed to the exact same conditions are still in excellent shape.
There's absolutely *no* doubt in my mind that the labels killed those
disks.
It's said that something in the adhesive eats through the protective
layer and attacks the underlying data structure. But I'd think that
things would stabilize after a year or two. These disks were well
used, I was thinking maybe the forces on the label from the high
rotation speeds might cause purely mechanical degradation. Especially
since my brother kinda thought that maybe the most used disks showed
the most problems. Then again, I've read accounts of little used disks
that were labeled going bad, while disks stored uoder the exact same
conditions were fine. I think the bit about the adhesive rotting
things must be what is really going on; some label adhesives will rot
your disks, others won't. I've never heard about any standard for a
safe adhesive, so I think putting on labels is a total crapshoot.
Labels shouldn't be a problem for DVDs unless the sucker comes off
and causes damage to drive, etc. The data is in the middle of a DVD,
so if a label gets grungy/whatever it should be possible to find a
solvent that will safely remove the label and clean things up.

--
N
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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:40:38 -0400, Noik wrote:

Quote:
The data is in the middle of a DVD,
so if a label gets grungy/whatever it should be possible to find a
solvent that will safely remove the label and clean things up.

and, your real important data should be duplicated on more than one
DVD. Thanks for this friendly explanation, Noik.
Never mind DVD's, my hard drive is going, I think. I'll format and
see, but maybe I need a new HD.

Dave
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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:21:00 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

Quote:
Never mind DVD's, my hard drive is going, I think. I'll format and
see, but maybe I need a new HD.

Dave

Nope, nothing wrong. Only needed a new Windows installation:-)

Dave
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Talker
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for 2-up CD label software or template Reply with quote
On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:40:38 -0400, Noik wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:50:52 -0500, Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote:

Oh, well, I guess I should throw away all the CDs I've put labels on for
the past six plus years, even if every one of them still plays without
any problem. However, I have ruined _unlabeled_ CD-Rs by accidentally
scratching the surface that would have been protected by a label. C'est
la vie.

It has been widely reported that labels can ruin burned CDs, and I
can add personal experience making those reports even wider. 3+ years
ago my brother used labels on some burned CD Audio disks. They all
*** the bed recently. Well, some were worse than others, and some
hadn't showed symptoms yet, but the error rates were through the roof,
it was just a matter of time. I know that his burner/media combination
yielded excellent burn quality, and I know that unlabeled disks
exposed to the exact same conditions are still in excellent shape.
There's absolutely *no* doubt in my mind that the labels killed those
disks.
It's said that something in the adhesive eats through the protective
layer and attacks the underlying data structure. But I'd think that
things would stabilize after a year or two. These disks were well
used, I was thinking maybe the forces on the label from the high
rotation speeds might cause purely mechanical degradation. Especially
since my brother kinda thought that maybe the most used disks showed
the most problems. Then again, I've read accounts of little used disks
that were labeled going bad, while disks stored uoder the exact same
conditions were fine. I think the bit about the adhesive rotting
things must be what is really going on; some label adhesives will rot
your disks, others won't. I've never heard about any standard for a
safe adhesive, so I think putting on labels is a total crapshoot.
Labels shouldn't be a problem for DVDs unless the sucker comes off
and causes damage to drive, etc. The data is in the middle of a DVD,
so if a label gets grungy/whatever it should be possible to find a
solvent that will safely remove the label and clean things up.


Same experience here Noik. Years ago when I got my first CD
burner, I used several different brands of labels. I also used (and
still have) the CD Label Stomper, that accurately places the label on
the CD. After running through several packs of labels,(I guess maybe
100), I began having trouble with the labels bubbling up off of the
CDs, making them unplayable.
I thought that the labels might have been defective, so I threw
them out and bought some new ones (a different brand), and used them.
I even tried using a glue stick to apply extra glue to the CD before
applying the self sticking labels, but they still bubbled up after 6
months
I decided to stop using self sticking labels, because I never
knew if they would stay put after 6 months, especially since I would
give CDs to people as gifts.
At that time, DVD burners were being introduced, and in numerous
articles posted around the Net and in magazines, they strongly advised
against using stick on labels on DVDs, because as another poster
mentioned, they made them unreadable do to unbalancing them.
That was some years ago, and I don't know what the consensus is
today, but I would still think that applies. While you may get away
with using them on DVDs today, I'd rather not take a chance and have
those DVDs become coasters somewhere down the road.

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