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Jack R
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: OC'ing can be fun |
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I'm still playing with my ASUS P5N-E SLI E6600, with an eVGA 8800 GTS video
card and 2GB Corsair 6400 memory system running Vista Ultimate.
I had a stable setup at 3.0GHz, memory at 400 MHz, 4,4,4,12,2T, running
well.
I then tried several video OC'ers, and settled on the ATITool as working
best.
I got the video up to 600 - 900 GPU - memory, from 513 - 753 default,
working well.
Then, I went to 595 - 995, and the system crashed, reset.
I restarted, and Vista would not start. (The video settings were set to
default on restart.)
Tried Safe mode, no go.
Reset the BIOS to default, 1067/400, no go.
Reset the BIOS to 1000/333, 5,5,5,12,2T, and got Vista to restart.
FWIW, all temps are below 40 deg C, except for stress loading, then the CPUs
hit 50 - 55C
MB, case and video all stay below 40C (room 23 - 25C)
I've been seeing this behavior before, during my OC'ing tests, running only
at slow memory settings, then running at rated speeds for no apparent reason
(healing?)
The Vista symptom is, at startup, it goes through the 'green caterpillar
screen, goes black, and never goes any further. System hangs, and must be
power cycled.
Fun, eh?
Jack R |
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'm still playing with my ASUS P5N-E SLI E6600, with an eVGA 8800 GTS
video card and 2GB Corsair 6400 memory system running Vista Ultimate.
I had a stable setup at 3.0GHz, memory at 400 MHz, 4,4,4,12,2T, running
well.
I then tried several video OC'ers, and settled on the ATITool as working
best.
I got the video up to 600 - 900 GPU - memory, from 513 - 753 default,
working well.
Then, I went to 595 - 995, and the system crashed, reset.
I restarted, and Vista would not start. (The video settings were set to
default on restart.)
Tried Safe mode, no go.
Reset the BIOS to default, 1067/400, no go.
Reset the BIOS to 1000/333, 5,5,5,12,2T, and got Vista to restart.
FWIW, all temps are below 40 deg C, except for stress loading, then the
CPUs hit 50 - 55C
MB, case and video all stay below 40C (room 23 - 25C)
I've been seeing this behavior before, during my OC'ing tests, running
only at slow memory settings, then running at rated speeds for no apparent
reason (healing?)
The Vista symptom is, at startup, it goes through the 'green caterpillar
screen, goes black, and never goes any further. System hangs, and must be
power cycled.
Fun, eh?
Jack R
Which processor are you working with? You are among the few, if any, folks |
here that are using Vista and overclocking. I have Vista Ultimate but have
yet to install it. I am using the P5N32-E SLI and am using the E6600 with
2gigs of Mushkin Extreme PC (some insane number like 1200 I think). I run it
at lower timings and 900 and it is very stable there and actually is faster
than it is at 1066 with higher timings. I have the E6600 up to 3.2ghz now
and it is stable. That was my first goal with this processor. I use water
cooling for the processor and my idle temps are only 29-31c and Orthos
(small ffts) will push both cores up to the mid 50s and then it will settle
into the low 50s once the thermally controlled radiator fan kicks up a
notch. I have two EVGA Superclocked 768mb 8800 GTX cards and have not tried
any overclocking on those yet. I am not big into getting huge scores on
artificial benchmarks but did run 3DMark05 and got a 21850 score that was up
in the top 95% so I figure that is ok. I was a bit overwhelmed with all the
settings on the i680 at first, but with the help of several folks here using
them at this time I have finally started to get the gist of the settings. It
is really about the same as it used to be just with a better control over
more parameters. Once I got that into my mind I began having better success.
Good luck.
Ed |
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Jack R
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FeL4i.47$4b4.12@newsfe03.lga...
I'm still playing with my ASUS P5N-E SLI E6600, with an eVGA 8800 GTS
video card and 2GB Corsair 6400 memory system running Vista Ultimate.
I had a stable setup at 3.0GHz, memory at 400 MHz, 4,4,4,12,2T, running
well.
I then tried several video OC'ers, and settled on the ATITool as working
best.
I got the video up to 600 - 900 GPU - memory, from 513 - 753 default,
working well.
Then, I went to 595 - 995, and the system crashed, reset.
I restarted, and Vista would not start. (The video settings were set to
default on restart.)
Tried Safe mode, no go.
Reset the BIOS to default, 1067/400, no go.
Reset the BIOS to 1000/333, 5,5,5,12,2T, and got Vista to restart.
FWIW, all temps are below 40 deg C, except for stress loading, then the
CPUs hit 50 - 55C
MB, case and video all stay below 40C (room 23 - 25C)
I've been seeing this behavior before, during my OC'ing tests, running
only at slow memory settings, then running at rated speeds for no
apparent reason (healing?)
The Vista symptom is, at startup, it goes through the 'green caterpillar
screen, goes black, and never goes any further. System hangs, and must be
power cycled.
Fun, eh?
Jack R
Which processor are you working with? You are among the few, if any, folks
here that are using Vista and overclocking. I have Vista Ultimate but have
yet to install it. I am using the P5N32-E SLI and am using the E6600 with
2gigs of Mushkin Extreme PC (some insane number like 1200 I think). I run
it at lower timings and 900 and it is very stable there and actually is
faster than it is at 1066 with higher timings. I have the E6600 up to
3.2ghz now and it is stable. That was my first goal with this processor. I
use water cooling for the processor and my idle temps are only 29-31c and
Orthos (small ffts) will push both cores up to the mid 50s and then it
will settle into the low 50s once the thermally controlled radiator fan
kicks up a notch. I have two EVGA Superclocked 768mb 8800 GTX cards and
have not tried any overclocking on those yet. I am not big into getting
huge scores on artificial benchmarks but did run 3DMark05 and got a 21850
score that was up in the top 95% so I figure that is ok. I was a bit
overwhelmed with all the settings on the i680 at first, but with the help
of several folks here using them at this time I have finally started to
get the gist of the settings. It is really about the same as it used to be
just with a better control over more parameters. Once I got that into my
mind I began having better success. Good luck.
Ed
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Phil Weldon
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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'Jack R' wrote:
| Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
| I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
| Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
You can download the free version of 3DMark from
http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark06/ .
With my E4300 / EVGA 680i motherboard / EVGA 8800 GTS 320 MB graphics
adapter / DDR2-1066 2 X 1 GB memory I get about 10600 reported by 3DMark06
with the following settings
CPU speed 2.7 GHz (300 MHz X 9) (1200 MHz FSB) (1.21 v)
Memory Bus speed 1200 MHz FSB (1:2 CPU Clock : Memory Clock)
Memory timings: 5 - 4 - 4 - 9 2T (2.300 v)
GPU: 650 MHz
Graphics Memory: 850 MHz.
Phil Weldon
"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
| I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
| Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
| --
| Jack R
| "Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:r6Z4i.2438$u56.475@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
| >
| > "Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
| > news:FeL4i.47$4b4.12@newsfe03.lga...
| >> I'm still playing with my ASUS P5N-E SLI E6600, with an eVGA 8800 GTS
| >> video card and 2GB Corsair 6400 memory system running Vista Ultimate.
| >> I had a stable setup at 3.0GHz, memory at 400 MHz, 4,4,4,12,2T, running
| >> well.
| >> I then tried several video OC'ers, and settled on the ATITool as
working
| >> best.
| >> I got the video up to 600 - 900 GPU - memory, from 513 - 753 default,
| >> working well.
| >> Then, I went to 595 - 995, and the system crashed, reset.
| >> I restarted, and Vista would not start. (The video settings were set to
| >> default on restart.)
| >> Tried Safe mode, no go.
| >> Reset the BIOS to default, 1067/400, no go.
| >> Reset the BIOS to 1000/333, 5,5,5,12,2T, and got Vista to restart.
| >> FWIW, all temps are below 40 deg C, except for stress loading, then the
| >> CPUs hit 50 - 55C
| >> MB, case and video all stay below 40C (room 23 - 25C)
| >> I've been seeing this behavior before, during my OC'ing tests, running
| >> only at slow memory settings, then running at rated speeds for no
| >> apparent reason (healing?)
| >>
| >> The Vista symptom is, at startup, it goes through the 'green
caterpillar
| >> screen, goes black, and never goes any further. System hangs, and must
be
| >> power cycled.
| >>
| >> Fun, eh?
| >>
| >> Jack R
| > Which processor are you working with? You are among the few, if any,
folks
| > here that are using Vista and overclocking. I have Vista Ultimate but
have
| > yet to install it. I am using the P5N32-E SLI and am using the E6600
with
| > 2gigs of Mushkin Extreme PC (some insane number like 1200 I think). I
run
| > it at lower timings and 900 and it is very stable there and actually is
| > faster than it is at 1066 with higher timings. I have the E6600 up to
| > 3.2ghz now and it is stable. That was my first goal with this processor.
I
| > use water cooling for the processor and my idle temps are only 29-31c
and
| > Orthos (small ffts) will push both cores up to the mid 50s and then it
| > will settle into the low 50s once the thermally controlled radiator fan
| > kicks up a notch. I have two EVGA Superclocked 768mb 8800 GTX cards and
| > have not tried any overclocking on those yet. I am not big into getting
| > huge scores on artificial benchmarks but did run 3DMark05 and got a
21850
| > score that was up in the top 95% so I figure that is ok. I was a bit
| > overwhelmed with all the settings on the i680 at first, but with the
help
| > of several folks here using them at this time I have finally started to
| > get the gist of the settings. It is really about the same as it used to
be
| > just with a better control over more parameters. Once I got that into my
| > mind I began having better success. Good luck.
| >
| > Ed
| >
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Jack R
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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Good data Phil, thanks.
It shows 3DMark06 is more sensitive to memory speed than cpu speed.
I've downloaded 3DMark05 to compare with Ed's results.
I'll post what I find.
Jack R
More fun ahead
"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | 'Jack R' wrote:
| Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
| I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
| Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
You can download the free version of 3DMark from
http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark06/ .
With my E4300 / EVGA 680i motherboard / EVGA 8800 GTS 320 MB graphics
adapter / DDR2-1066 2 X 1 GB memory I get about 10600 reported by 3DMark06
with the following settings
CPU speed 2.7 GHz (300 MHz X 9) (1200 MHz FSB) (1.21 v)
Memory Bus speed 1200 MHz FSB (1:2 CPU Clock : Memory Clock)
Memory timings: 5 - 4 - 4 - 9 2T (2.300 v)
GPU: 650 MHz
Graphics Memory: 850 MHz.
Phil Weldon
"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
news:pG%4i.137$Qm3.130@newsfe03.lga...
| Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
| I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
| Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
| --
| Jack R
| "Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:r6Z4i.2438$u56.475@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
|
| > "Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
| > news:FeL4i.47$4b4.12@newsfe03.lga...
| >> I'm still playing with my ASUS P5N-E SLI E6600, with an eVGA 8800 GTS
| >> video card and 2GB Corsair 6400 memory system running Vista Ultimate.
| >> I had a stable setup at 3.0GHz, memory at 400 MHz, 4,4,4,12,2T,
running
| >> well.
| >> I then tried several video OC'ers, and settled on the ATITool as
working
| >> best.
| >> I got the video up to 600 - 900 GPU - memory, from 513 - 753 default,
| >> working well.
| >> Then, I went to 595 - 995, and the system crashed, reset.
| >> I restarted, and Vista would not start. (The video settings were set
to
| >> default on restart.)
| >> Tried Safe mode, no go.
| >> Reset the BIOS to default, 1067/400, no go.
| >> Reset the BIOS to 1000/333, 5,5,5,12,2T, and got Vista to restart.
| >> FWIW, all temps are below 40 deg C, except for stress loading, then
the
| >> CPUs hit 50 - 55C
| >> MB, case and video all stay below 40C (room 23 - 25C)
| >> I've been seeing this behavior before, during my OC'ing tests,
running
| >> only at slow memory settings, then running at rated speeds for no
| >> apparent reason (healing?)
|
| >> The Vista symptom is, at startup, it goes through the 'green
caterpillar
| >> screen, goes black, and never goes any further. System hangs, and
must
be
| >> power cycled.
|
| >> Fun, eh?
|
| >> Jack R
| > Which processor are you working with? You are among the few, if any,
folks
| > here that are using Vista and overclocking. I have Vista Ultimate but
have
| > yet to install it. I am using the P5N32-E SLI and am using the E6600
with
| > 2gigs of Mushkin Extreme PC (some insane number like 1200 I think). I
run
| > it at lower timings and 900 and it is very stable there and actually
is
| > faster than it is at 1066 with higher timings. I have the E6600 up to
| > 3.2ghz now and it is stable. That was my first goal with this
processor.
I
| > use water cooling for the processor and my idle temps are only 29-31c
and
| > Orthos (small ffts) will push both cores up to the mid 50s and then it
| > will settle into the low 50s once the thermally controlled radiator
fan
| > kicks up a notch. I have two EVGA Superclocked 768mb 8800 GTX cards
and
| > have not tried any overclocking on those yet. I am not big into
getting
| > huge scores on artificial benchmarks but did run 3DMark05 and got a
21850
| > score that was up in the top 95% so I figure that is ok. I was a bit
| > overwhelmed with all the settings on the i680 at first, but with the
help
| > of several folks here using them at this time I have finally started
to
| > get the gist of the settings. It is really about the same as it used
to
be
| > just with a better control over more parameters. Once I got that into
my
| > mind I began having better success. Good luck.
|
| > Ed
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Ed Medlin
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
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I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be an ok
score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones above me
being QXxx cores.
Ed |
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Ed Medlin
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | 'Jack R' wrote:
| Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
| I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
| Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
You can download the free version of 3DMark from
http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark06/ .
With my E4300 / EVGA 680i motherboard / EVGA 8800 GTS 320 MB graphics
adapter / DDR2-1066 2 X 1 GB memory I get about 10600 reported by 3DMark06
with the following settings
CPU speed 2.7 GHz (300 MHz X 9) (1200 MHz FSB) (1.21 v)
Memory Bus speed 1200 MHz FSB (1:2 CPU Clock : Memory Clock)
Memory timings: 5 - 4 - 4 - 9 2T (2.300 v)
GPU: 650 MHz
Graphics Memory: 850 MHz.
Phil Weldon
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One little tidbit Phil. After I got up to 3.2ghz with the E6600 and ran a
few days I decided to see if I could lower the vcore at all. I found I could
set it at Auto and it is still completely stable. That fact tells me that I
may have gotten a decent chip and may be able to get some more out of it. My
max load temps dropped only a couple of degs to about 50C. 3DMark06 seems to
load my cpu about as much as Orthos.....:-). I need to mess around with
memory timings and see if I can get more there. I have it backed down quite
a bit so I could see why I had problems getting above 3ghz at first. Now
that I know I am stable at 3.2 I can try and see what I can get from the
memory for overall performance. I believe that the i680 defaults memory
voltage to somewhere around 1.9v or so. I have mine at 2.2v right now, but
the memory says it is rated at 2.35v max. In Sandra 2007 memory bandwidth is
not bad at 7088 MB/sec now. 4-4-4-9-1T are the current timings but at
833(down from 900 at 2T). I know that is a low speed for my memory, but the
tighter timings seem to make up for it. I need to do some tweaking there to
see if I can get some better results. Higher speeds with looser timings
don't seem to give me any overall performance. I am probably overlooking
something somewhere..........
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Jack R
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
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Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be an ok
score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones above me
being QXxx cores.
Ed
Good info, Ed. |
I wonder what you would get with a single video card installed.
How much of a difference do you think it would make?
It's clear your (much) faster memory is a large contributor.
It seems that Vista is very OC unfriendly. I get constant anomalies, such as
Explorer not showing any files, Windows OneCare not starting up, hangs on
startup, etc.
It also seems to 'learn' and 'heal'. I get different results with identical
settings according to previous history...very difficult to determine cause
and effect.
Remember I said I had to back down to FSB 1000/333 memory to get Vista to
run again?
I'm now running back at 1333/400 with no other changes. It's not heat
related either, as hot or cold does not affect the results as far as I can
determine.
Still playing,
Jack R
But, when a stable point is reached, it runs very nicely at 3..0GHz. |
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Ed Medlin
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: OC'ing can be fun |
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
news:pG%4i.137$Qm3.130@newsfe03.lga...
Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be an
ok score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones above
me being QXxx cores.
Ed
Good info, Ed.
I wonder what you would get with a single video card installed.
How much of a difference do you think it would make?
It's clear your (much) faster memory is a large contributor.
It seems that Vista is very OC unfriendly. I get constant anomalies, such
as Explorer not showing any files, Windows OneCare not starting up, hangs
on startup, etc.
It also seems to 'learn' and 'heal'. I get different results with
identical settings according to previous history...very difficult to
determine cause and effect.
Remember I said I had to back down to FSB 1000/333 memory to get Vista to
run again?
I'm now running back at 1333/400 with no other changes. It's not heat
related either, as hot or cold does not affect the results as far as I can
determine.
Still playing,
Jack R
But, when a stable point is reached, it runs very nicely at 3..0GHz.
Memory seems to be the major issue with my XP system. If I set it over about |
950 everything gets unstable and MB temps seem to get a bit high. I wish I
knew where the temp is read on this board because that gets me a bit worried
when it is up in the temps close to my processor temps (45-48c). I really
don't see the correlation between the memory controller and MB temps, but it
sure raises them. My memory performance seems good at present settings and
tighter timings, so I may just leave it as is and maybe see if I can get a
bit more from the processor. I am going to make a change from the bottom
PCIE 16x slot to the second x16 (8 pipes) and I may just run 3DMark06 while
the other video card is out just to see what the SLI setup gives me. I have
read in several places that it won't matter which slot the #2 card is in
because the data exchange between the card is through the SLI cable and not
through the PCIE bus. The main reason is that the bottom card's fan is only
1/2" or less from the case bottom and it does run a bit warmer than the top
card. I can hear it's fan spin up long before the top card's fan does.
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Jack R
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
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Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be an
ok score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones above
me being QXxx cores.
Ed
Good info, Ed.
I wonder what you would get with a single video card installed.
How much of a difference do you think it would make?
It's clear your (much) faster memory is a large contributor.
It seems that Vista is very OC unfriendly. I get constant anomalies, such
as Explorer not showing any files, Windows OneCare not starting up, hangs
on startup, etc.
It also seems to 'learn' and 'heal'. I get different results with
identical settings according to previous history...very difficult to
determine cause and effect.
Remember I said I had to back down to FSB 1000/333 memory to get Vista to
run again?
I'm now running back at 1333/400 with no other changes. It's not heat
related either, as hot or cold does not affect the results as far as I
can determine.
Still playing,
Jack R
But, when a stable point is reached, it runs very nicely at 3..0GHz.
Memory seems to be the major issue with my XP system. If I set it over
about 950 everything gets unstable and MB temps seem to get a bit high. I
wish I knew where the temp is read on this board because that gets me a
bit worried when it is up in the temps close to my processor temps
(45-48c). I really don't see the correlation between the memory controller
and MB temps, but it sure raises them. My memory performance seems good at
present settings and tighter timings, so I may just leave it as is and
maybe see if I can get a bit more from the processor. I am going to make a
change from the bottom PCIE 16x slot to the second x16 (8 pipes) and I may
just run 3DMark06 while the other video card is out just to see what the
SLI setup gives me. I have read in several places that it won't matter
which slot the #2 card is in because the data exchange between the card is
through the SLI cable and not through the PCIE bus. The main reason is
that the bottom card's fan is only 1/2" or less from the case bottom and
it does run a bit warmer than the top card. I can hear it's fan spin up
long before the top card's fan does.
Ed
Ed, Please do run the 3DMark06 with one card, I'd like to know what |
difference that will make!
(and whether or not I should start saving up my $$$)
Thanks,
Jack r |
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Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be an
ok score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones
above me being QXxx cores.
Ed
Good info, Ed.
I wonder what you would get with a single video card installed.
How much of a difference do you think it would make?
It's clear your (much) faster memory is a large contributor.
It seems that Vista is very OC unfriendly. I get constant anomalies,
such as Explorer not showing any files, Windows OneCare not starting up,
hangs on startup, etc.
It also seems to 'learn' and 'heal'. I get different results with
identical settings according to previous history...very difficult to
determine cause and effect.
Remember I said I had to back down to FSB 1000/333 memory to get Vista
to run again?
I'm now running back at 1333/400 with no other changes. It's not heat
related either, as hot or cold does not affect the results as far as I
can determine.
Still playing,
Jack R
But, when a stable point is reached, it runs very nicely at 3..0GHz.
Memory seems to be the major issue with my XP system. If I set it over
about 950 everything gets unstable and MB temps seem to get a bit high. I
wish I knew where the temp is read on this board because that gets me a
bit worried when it is up in the temps close to my processor temps
(45-48c). I really don't see the correlation between the memory
controller and MB temps, but it sure raises them. My memory performance
seems good at present settings and tighter timings, so I may just leave
it as is and maybe see if I can get a bit more from the processor. I am
going to make a change from the bottom PCIE 16x slot to the second x16 (8
pipes) and I may just run 3DMark06 while the other video card is out just
to see what the SLI setup gives me. I have read in several places that it
won't matter which slot the #2 card is in because the data exchange
between the card is through the SLI cable and not through the PCIE bus.
The main reason is that the bottom card's fan is only 1/2" or less from
the case bottom and it does run a bit warmer than the top card. I can
hear it's fan spin up long before the top card's fan does.
Ed
Ed, Please do run the 3DMark06 with one card, I'd like to know what
difference that will make!
(and whether or not I should start saving up my $$$)
Thanks,
Jack r
I decided to go ahead with Vista Ultimate since all my hardware is up to |
it and did run 3DMark06 and got mid 10,000s consistantly in Vista with just
one 8800 GTX. My overclocking experience in Vista is no different than XP
Pro. If anything, it seems more stable. I would have figured otherwise with
all the negative stuff I have heard and did experience while participating
since the alpha through the two RCs. I did a clean install after testing on
it's own partition for a while and have had no problems whatsoever.
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ed Medlin" <edmedlin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jack R" <jackrutherford@charter.net> wrote in message
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Hi Ed, E6600. The highest I've been able to get to is 3.150GHz.
I'm getting high 9xxx in 3DMark 06, I don't have '05.
Do you have a copy of '06 so we could compare?
--
Jack R
I downloaded and ran the free version and got 14348 in 3DMark06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2032336 . It seems to be
an ok score. It rated 37th for similiar systems with many of the ones
above me being QXxx cores.
Ed
Good info, Ed.
I wonder what you would get with a single video card installed.
How much of a difference do you think it would make?
It's clear your (much) faster memory is a large contributor.
It seems that Vista is very OC unfriendly. I get constant anomalies,
such as Explorer not showing any files, Windows OneCare not starting
up, hangs on startup, etc.
It also seems to 'learn' and 'heal'. I get different results with
identical settings according to previous history...very difficult to
determine cause and effect.
Remember I said I had to back down to FSB 1000/333 memory to get Vista
to run again?
I'm now running back at 1333/400 with no other changes. It's not heat
related either, as hot or cold does not affect the results as far as I
can determine.
Still playing,
Jack R
But, when a stable point is reached, it runs very nicely at 3..0GHz.
Memory seems to be the major issue with my XP system. If I set it over
about 950 everything gets unstable and MB temps seem to get a bit high.
I wish I knew where the temp is read on this board because that gets me
a bit worried when it is up in the temps close to my processor temps
(45-48c). I really don't see the correlation between the memory
controller and MB temps, but it sure raises them. My memory performance
seems good at present settings and tighter timings, so I may just leave
it as is and maybe see if I can get a bit more from the processor. I am
going to make a change from the bottom PCIE 16x slot to the second x16
(8 pipes) and I may just run 3DMark06 while the other video card is out
just to see what the SLI setup gives me. I have read in several places
that it won't matter which slot the #2 card is in because the data
exchange between the card is through the SLI cable and not through the
PCIE bus. The main reason is that the bottom card's fan is only 1/2" or
less from the case bottom and it does run a bit warmer than the top
card. I can hear it's fan spin up long before the top card's fan does.
Ed
Ed, Please do run the 3DMark06 with one card, I'd like to know what
difference that will make!
(and whether or not I should start saving up my $$$)
Thanks,
Jack r
I decided to go ahead with Vista Ultimate since all my hardware is up
to it and did run 3DMark06 and got mid 10,000s consistantly in Vista with
just one 8800 GTX. My overclocking experience in Vista is no different
than XP Pro. If anything, it seems more stable. I would have figured
otherwise with all the negative stuff I have heard and did experience
while participating since the alpha through the two RCs. I did a clean
install after testing on it's own partition for a while and have had no
problems whatsoever.
Ed
Hi Ed, good luck with Vista! |
Earlier, you said you got 14348 in 3DMark06 with both video cards installed.
Now, you say you're getting "mid 10,000s" with one video card.
I don't understand, can you clarify?
With Vista and OCing, I'm getting poor shutdown, intermittent startup, and
Explorer and other programs not always working properly.
I suspect the functional problems are related to previous faulty shut downs.
Thanks,
Jack R |
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| Quote: | Earlier, you said you got 14348 in 3DMark06 with both video cards installed.
Now, you say you're getting "mid 10,000s" with one video card.
I don't understand, can you clarify?
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| Quote: | On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:41:38 -0400, "Jack R" <jackr_nospam@msn.com
wrote:
Earlier, you said you got 14348 in 3DMark06 with both video cards
installed.
Now, you say you're getting "mid 10,000s" with one video card.
I don't understand, can you clarify?
SLI is still bullshit. Always was. There's a sucker born every day
though ;)
If you would happen to read up on the NVidia SLI implementation as it is |
today you would understand it is not "as it always was". Is it twice as fast
as one card?............absolutely not. It does however give you over 1.5gbs
of video memory and a couple of GPUs and does help a ton if you happen to do
simulations like FSX and others. I did a lot of research before getting two
rather than one 8800 GTX. I had the cash put away for this system a long
time and built it as "I" wanted and NOT what someone said I should do.
Cheers.........
Ed |
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| Quote: | I decided to go ahead with Vista Ultimate since all my hardware is up
to it and did run 3DMark06 and got mid 10,000s consistantly in Vista with
just one 8800 GTX. My overclocking experience in Vista is no different
than XP Pro. If anything, it seems more stable. I would have figured
otherwise with all the negative stuff I have heard and did experience
while participating since the alpha through the two RCs. I did a clean
install after testing on it's own partition for a while and have had no
problems whatsoever.
Ed
Hi Ed, good luck with Vista!
Earlier, you said you got 14348 in 3DMark06 with both video cards
installed.
Now, you say you're getting "mid 10,000s" with one video card.
I don't understand, can you clarify?
With Vista and OCing, I'm getting poor shutdown, intermittent startup, and
Explorer and other programs not always working properly.
I suspect the functional problems are related to previous faulty shut
downs.
Thanks,
Jack R
10282 with Aero and lots of junk turned on and 10446 by turning off Aero |
and some other eye candy in Vista. Not a lot of difference there. I have to
check some other things and maybe other drivers because those numbers do not
seem correct for a single GTX. It should be down in the 8000s somewhere
actually. 3DMark06 acted a bit funny and didn't pause between some of the
tests like it usually does.........Don't know what is going on. The main
glitch I have with Vista is opening the Outlook newsreader from Outlook Mail
(Office XP) but that wouldn't be OC'ing related since everything else seems
to work fine. There are a few older programs that will not work, but I
expected some of those. Partition Magic 8 and Nero 6 are two of those. I
kept my original OC'ing settings from XP Pro when moving to Vista Ultimate
and had no problems with the install or anything else (knock on wood). Like
I said, I would take those 3DMark06 scores with a grain of salt at this
point because I am pretty sure they are bogus looking at some of the other
8800 GTX scores in Vista.
Ed |
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