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Deeg
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 Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: Upgrade |
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Current system:
AMD 64 X2 4200+
1GB RAM
Geforce 6800
Currently noticing it chugging a wee bit in a few games. Can anyone
recommend a graphics card around about £100 that'll make a difference?
Would a GFX card in this sort of price range make much of a difference
to my setup?
Been a while since I've done any GFX card upgrading so all this talk
of GS GT 8800 7800 just confuses me!
TIA.
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Rev. G.G. Willikers
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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Deeg wrote:
| Quote: | Current system:
AMD 64 X2 4200+
1GB RAM
Geforce 6800
Currently noticing it chugging a wee bit in a few games. Can anyone
recommend a graphics card around about £100 that'll make a difference?
Would a GFX card in this sort of price range make much of a difference
to my setup?
Been a while since I've done any GFX card upgrading so all this talk
of GS GT 8800 7800 just confuses me!
TIA.
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Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt. |
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Mr.E Solved!
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote:
| Quote: | Cessna 310 wrote:
Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote:
rms wrote:
Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is.
You can get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms
Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before anyone just arbitrarily just sticks another gig of memory into
a machine, they should run task manager to check memory use. If it
looks like its getting high and running some tasks over to swap, then
add memory.
Its been my experience that when a computer starts to run out of
memory and into swap, it experiences a whole lot more than just a
stutter.
Another gig wouldn't hurt, but could the money might better spent on
correcting the problem. Better to figure out the problem and address
it. ;)
Well you see I was running a 6800 with 1 gig, playing BF2, I then added
another 1 gig and haven't had a stutter since. The OP didn't say what
games were stuttering. Besides RAM is dirt cheap.
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BF2 demonstrates remarkable improvement in quality of play with 2G of
system ram vs. 1G of system ram. The memory footprint of BF2 has peaked
at 987M that I can recall, possibly more. This is mostly due to the way
BF2 handles audio assets.
Other games with smaller memory footprints will not see such dramatic
gains as BF2, but Windows XP plus applets and tasks plus a game can
easily go over 1G of physical memory requirements and force disk paging.
2G benefits those games by preventing paging due to total memory
commitments.
To answer the OP's questions: a 6800GT is sub-par compared to any
current video card, replace it with almost anything and see improvement. |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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Wax wrote:
| Quote: | "Rev. G.G. Willikers " <GollyGeeWillikers@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
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Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, I love that response! But I also have my doubts that an owner of a
6800 series card would get serious performance gains with a new card with a
budget of only £100. If the OP wants to extend the life of his current rig,
I think 2GB of RAM is in order as well as a video card that is in the £150
range.
Agreed. The OP does not list his mobo. If he is restricted to AGP, the |
upgrading the video card might not increase perf. If he has PCIe then he
might be able to find a deal in that price range. |
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rms
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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| Quote: | Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
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No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is. You can
get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms |
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Wax
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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"Rev. G.G. Willikers " <GollyGeeWillikers@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
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Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL, I love that response! But I also have my doubts that an owner of a
6800 series card would get serious performance gains with a new card with a
budget of only £100. If the OP wants to extend the life of his current rig,
I think 2GB of RAM is in order as well as a video card that is in the £150
range. |
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Cessna 310
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote:
| Quote: | rms wrote:
Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is.
You can get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms
Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Before anyone just arbitrarily just sticks another gig of memory into a
machine, they should run task manager to check memory use. If it looks
like its getting high and running some tasks over to swap, then add
memory.
Its been my experience that when a computer starts to run out of memory
and into swap, it experiences a whole lot more than just a stutter.
Another gig wouldn't hurt, but could the money might better spent on
correcting the problem. Better to figure out the problem and address
it.  |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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Cessna 310 wrote:
| Quote: | Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote:
rms wrote:
Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is.
You can get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms
Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before anyone just arbitrarily just sticks another gig of memory into a
machine, they should run task manager to check memory use. If it looks
like its getting high and running some tasks over to swap, then add memory.
Its been my experience that when a computer starts to run out of memory
and into swap, it experiences a whole lot more than just a stutter.
Another gig wouldn't hurt, but could the money might better spent on
correcting the problem. Better to figure out the problem and address
it.
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Well you see I was running a 6800 with 1 gig, playing BF2, I then added
another 1 gig and haven't had a stutter since. The OP didn't say what
games were stuttering. Besides RAM is dirt cheap. |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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rms wrote:
| Quote: | Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is. You can
get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms
Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Wax
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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"Rev. G.G. Willikers " <GollyGeeWillikers@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
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Agreed. The OP does not list his mobo. If he is restricted to AGP, the
upgrading the video card might not increase perf. If he has PCIe then he
might be able to find a deal in that price range.
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Good point, knowing if the OP has PCI-E or AGP is a big piece of the puzzle. |
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Deeg
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:10:16 -0600, "Wax" <no@addy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Rev. G.G. Willikers " <GollyGeeWillikers@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:DR63i.527$u56.382@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
Agreed. The OP does not list his mobo. If he is restricted to AGP, the
upgrading the video card might not increase perf. If he has PCIe then he
might be able to find a deal in that price range.
Good point, knowing if the OP has PCI-E or AGP is a big piece of the puzzle.
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See I said it'd been a while since I'd gone through this whole
upgrading rigmarole!
My mobo is PCI-E.
I'm sort of thinking that another gig of Ram plus a middle of the road
PCI-E card might be the path to go down anyone agree and recommend a
card?
In answer to a previous question the games I've noticed chugging are
spiderman 3 and STALKER.
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Conor
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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In article <81dp435mboc515uceq2ojmi77nc282c5vi@4ax.com>, Deeg says...
| Quote: | Current system:
AMD 64 X2 4200+
1GB RAM
Geforce 6800
Currently noticing it chugging a wee bit in a few games. Can anyone
recommend a graphics card around about £100 that'll make a difference?
Would a GFX card in this sort of price range make much of a difference
to my setup?
No. Another 1GB of RAM would though. |
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Conor
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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In article <FK43i.69$_N1.55@newsfe12.lga>, Cessna 310 says...
| Quote: | Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote:
rms wrote:
Another gig of ram wouldn't hurt.
No, get a 8800gts or whatever the fastest non-2900 ati card is.
You can get ram later if any stuttering is noticed.
rms
Another gig still wouldn't hurt. PHHHPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before anyone just arbitrarily just sticks another gig of memory into a
machine, they should run task manager to check memory use.
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Which is of sod all use as it doesn't tell you how much superfetch is
using.
| Quote: | Another gig wouldn't hurt, but could the money might better spent on
correcting the problem. Better to figure out the problem and address
it. ;)
Which is lack of RAM. |
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until you hear them speak......... |
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Conor
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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In article <SYedne895I2qZdHbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com>, Mr.E Solved!
says...
| Quote: | BF2 demonstrates remarkable improvement in quality of play with 2G of
system ram vs. 1G of system ram. The memory footprint of BF2 has peaked
at 987M that I can recall, possibly more. This is mostly due to the way
BF2 handles audio assets.
You should see it with 4GB in then. That's what I've got and am running |
Vista x64. Level load times are around 10 seconds.
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Conor
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak......... |
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Conor
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Upgrade |
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In article <DR63i.527$u56.382@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, Rev. G.G.
Willikers says...
| Quote: | Agreed. The OP does not list his mobo. If he is restricted to AGP, the
upgrading the video card might not increase perf.
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Have you seen what you can get in AGP now?
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Conor
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak......... |
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