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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

I'm interested in buying a Sun Blade 2000 to replace my Ultra 5 which
I use at home as a headless
server for C/TCL development.

The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I'm leaning towards a 2x900 system - any comments/suggestions?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

On May 11, 3:41 pm, steve.g.sz...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
I'm interested in buying a Sun Blade 2000 to replace my Ultra 5 which
I use at home as a headless
server for C/TCL development.

The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I'm leaning towards a 2x900 system - any comments/suggestions?

Thanks

Personally, not sure if the 1.2GHz systems are worth the premium they
command at the moment, I'd get the 2x900MHz machine. C programs will
tend to run fast on either machine, if it was Java you were doing,
then maybe it's worth paying a bit more to get the faster box, as the
difference would be more apparent IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

steve.g.szabo@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
I'm interested in buying a Sun Blade 2000 to replace my Ultra 5 which
I use at home as a headless
server for C/TCL development.

If it's a software development box, go x86 rather than Sparc. You can

always compile on your existing box for deployment if you have to deploy
on Sparc.

--
Ian Collins.
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Chris Cox
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

steve.g.szabo@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
I'm interested in buying a Sun Blade 2000 to replace my Ultra 5 which
I use at home as a headless
server for C/TCL development.

The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I'm leaning towards a 2x900 system - any comments/suggestions?

The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.

If you want a fairly good upgrade (on the cheap) you could move
to a Sun Blade 150 (might snag one for $50-100).
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Casper H.S. Dik
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Chris Cox <notccox@notairmail.net> writes:

Quote:
The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.

Louder? Nope; your typical Ultra-5/Ultra-10 makes *more* noise than
your typical SunBlade 2000. At least in my experience.

Casper
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Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.
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Uwe Wolfram
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Quote:
The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.

Louder? Nope; your typical Ultra-5/Ultra-10 makes *more* noise than
your typical SunBlade 2000. At least in my experience.

Confirmed, the fans of my Blade 1000 are less noisy than those of
my U10 and my Blade 100. Alas, the FC disks (36GB) of the B1000
are prone to loud head movements, these are disturbing.

Uwe
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Uwe Wolfram wrote:
Quote:
The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.
Louder? Nope; your typical Ultra-5/Ultra-10 makes *more* noise than
your typical SunBlade 2000. At least in my experience.

Confirmed, the fans of my Blade 1000 are less noisy than those of
my U10 and my Blade 100. Alas, the FC disks (36GB) of the B1000
are prone to loud head movements, these are disturbing.

Hmmm... might just be ours that is a bit noisy. I can accept
that.
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DoN. Nichols
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: U60 Noise Reduction (was: Re: Which Sun Blade?) Reply with quote

According to Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM>:
Quote:
Chris Cox <notccox@notairmail.net> writes:

The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.

Louder? Nope; your typical Ultra-5/Ultra-10 makes *more* noise than
your typical SunBlade 2000. At least in my experience.

Out of curiosity -- how many of the Ultra-60s were shipped or
later fitted with the "Noise Reduction kit"? I was opening one of mine
to change the jumper for a flash upgrade to the OB firmware.

When I pulled the power supply out far enough to get to the
jumper (a *terrible* location for that jumper BTW) I discovered a pair
of loose wires. There were two red-black twisted wires one of which
matched a jack on the motherboard, but *also* matched a jack in the end
of the other twisted pair. I plugged it into the jack on the board and
went though the upgrade and then restored the system to service. It
started shutting down after a few hours of operation (with nothing
visible in the syslog file), so I pulled it back apart, and moved the
wire to the jack in the other wire, which I traced to a block of epoxy
cable-tied to the housing around the CD-ROM and floppy spaces. Other
wires went off to another fan connector (also near an unused jack on the
board, and power wiring along with a blue-black twisted pair.

So -- I spent some time downloading all the manuals which
referenced the U60, and was particularly interested in the "Noise
Reduction Kit" instructions -- which turned out to describe what I had
encountered.

Note that the front fan was plugged into the noise reduction
block, and the rear fan into the motherboard jack. I would have
expected it to run the rear fan harder (full speed all the time), but
apparently that was not the case. Do *both* fans have to be plugged
into the motherboard jacks for either to work?

I've got one other U60, but I haven't yet gone into it to see
whether it also has the noise reduction kit installed.

Thanks,
DoN.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Chris Cox <notccox@notairmail.net> writes:

Quote:
Uwe Wolfram wrote:
The 2x900 is pretty fast in comparison to an Ultra 5 (which is
dog awful slow). However, it is a different class of machinery.
Just be aware that the box will consume a bit of power, produce
a bit of heat and be much louder than your Ultra 5.
Louder? Nope; your typical Ultra-5/Ultra-10 makes *more* noise than
your typical SunBlade 2000. At least in my experience.

Confirmed, the fans of my Blade 1000 are less noisy than those of
my U10 and my Blade 100. Alas, the FC disks (36GB) of the B1000
are prone to loud head movements, these are disturbing.

Hmmm... might just be ours that is a bit noisy. I can accept
that.

Make sure it runs Solaris and that Solaris is running picld; of course,
if the environment is warm/hot, it will make more noise.

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

On May 11, 10:41 am, steve.g.sz...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
I'm interested in buying a Sun Blade 2000 to replace my Ultra 5 which
I use at home as a headless
server for C/TCL development.

The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I'm leaning towards a 2x900 system - any comments/suggestions?

Thanks


If you are mainly programming on your workstation then the 2x900
SB2000 system is fine for testing and programming purposes.

~ Ken Mays
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Quote:
The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I bought one on ebay for $355.00 USD

1x900 cpu
2gb ram
1x72 hd
dvd drive
xvr-500 fb

Along with my new quad fast ethernet card I can start playing with
solaris zones

Thanks all for your comments
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Gerald Sinkiewicz
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

<steve.g.szabo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179606913.873006.110700@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
The question is which CPU speed should I go for? There seems to be a
big difference in price between
the 900 and 1.2 CPU

I bought one on ebay for $355.00 USD

1x900 cpu
2gb ram
1x72 hd
dvd drive
xvr-500 fb

Along with my new quad fast ethernet card I can start playing with
solaris zones

Thanks all for your comments


A local surplus store was selling Blade 2000's/1000's in various states
(some with memory some without, some
with Elite-3D others with XVR-500's, one even had a PCi (733Mhz) card) but
all without hard disks and most had
2x900MHZ Ultra SparcIII processors.
The prices were at times $150.00USD at others times $65.00USD. A freind
drove down from Boston one Saturday
to grab 3 of them at $65.00, he was lucky to find them still there. I have
not seen others like them in a few weeks.
Needless to say I grabbed a couple (2 at 75USD and another at 50USD). I have
noticed that the memory 501-5030
is not very expensive on e-bay if you look long and hard enough.

Anyway 900MHz still supports some mighty critical databases around the
world.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Which Sun Blade? Reply with quote

Quote:
I bought one on ebay for $355.00 USD

1x900 cpu
2gb ram
1x72 hd
dvd drive
xvr-500 fb



My 2000 arrived today!
Sorry - I had to post as I'm very excited!
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