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Sebastian Scholz
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

Hello!

I've just bought an Linotype Saphire Ultra Scanner, which supports
SCSI-II.
On my notebook I'm running Win XP.

What I now need is a pcmcia-adapter to run my scanner.

On the adaptec website I found out that there is a APA-1460B
scsi-adapter which costs about EUR 80,- and which is 16bit.
But there's another adapter there: the APA-1480 with costs about EUR
50,- more than the 1460 and supports 32bit.

Are there any disadvantages in speed if I'd use the APA-1460B? Will
there be any probs concerning compatibility (between WinXP and
16bit-APA-1460B)? What would you recommand me to do?

Thanks,
Sebastian
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Michael Baeuerle
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

Sebastian Scholz wrote:
Quote:

I've just bought an Linotype Saphire Ultra Scanner, which supports
SCSI-II. On my notebook I'm running Win XP.

What I now need is a pcmcia-adapter to run my scanner.

On the adaptec website I found out that there is a APA-1460B
scsi-adapter which costs about EUR 80,- and which is 16bit.
But there's another adapter there: the APA-1480 with costs about EUR
50,- more than the 1460 and supports 32bit.

The 1480 is a "Cardbus" Adapter. This is the more recent PCI-like
interface for PC-Cards.

Quote:
Are there any disadvantages in speed if I'd use the APA-1460B?

Yes, the 1460 is much slower and generates higher CPU Load.

Whether the 1480 will be a real advantage for your application depends
on the controller of the scanner (the avarage transferrate of the
scanner, not the maximum theroretically speed like 10MByte/s for a SCSI2
"fast narrow" interface).

Quote:
Will
there be any probs concerning compatibility (between WinXP and
16bit-APA-1460B)?

Adaptec specify WinXP as supported for the newest versions of both
adapters (1460D and 1480B):
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi_port/
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi_port/PCMCIA/APA-1460D/
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi_port/Cardbus/APA-1480B/

As I can see, for the older versions of both adapters WinXP is not
listed as supported OS. Maybe the driver will nevertheless work for them
too.

Quote:
What would you recommand me to do?

This depends on the capabilities of your scanner. "SCSI2" is not enough
information. If the scanner can transfer more than approx. 2MByte/s than
you should use the 1480B.
Do you have a manual that specify the SCSI transfermode or better the
avarage data transferrate of the scanner?


Micha
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Sebastian Scholz
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

Michael Baeuerle wrote:

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Do you have a manual that specify the SCSI transfermode or better the
avarage data transferrate of the scanner?

Unfortunately I don't have such a document. I've been googling the
internet, too. No hits, sorry.

The scanner was built in 1989. Do these old devices really produce such
large amount of data (in such a short time period)? What I want to do is
scanning middleformat-film (6 to 6 cm) in a 600x1200 dpi resolution.

Best regards,
Sebastian
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Michael Baeuerle
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

Sebastian Scholz wrote:
Quote:

Michael Baeuerle wrote:

Do you have a manual that specify the SCSI transfermode or better the
avarage data transferrate of the scanner?

Unfortunately I don't have such a document. I've been googling the
internet, too. No hits, sorry.

The scanner was built in 1989. Do these old devices really produce such
large amount of data (in such a short time period)?

Maybe. The older cheap SCSI scanners are very slow but your Scanner
seems to be not one of the "cheap" ones.

Quote:
What I want to do is
scanning middleformat-film (6 to 6 cm) in a 600x1200 dpi resolution.

1i = 2.54cm
600x1200dpi = 236x472dpcm
=> Approx. 4M Pixels in the scanning area

With 16Bit colour:
4M x 16Bit = 64MBit or 8MByte

Even the 1460 should be able to transfer this amount of data in less
than 5s.


Micha
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Ray
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

Quote:
Do you have a manual that specify the SCSI transfermode or better the
avarage data transferrate of the scanner?

Unfortunately I don't have such a document. I've been googling the
internet, too. No hits, sorry.

If you are talking about a "Linotype-Hell Saphir Ultra II", it is a rebadged
"Umax PowerLook III". There is a manual for it on Umax's site.
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Eric Gisin
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: 16 or 32 bit scsi adapter? Reply with quote

I doubt it is 1989. That would be SCSI-1, 2-3MB/s.
Nobody had enough RAM on their desktop to handle 2M pixel film scans either.

If it is 1999 and the scan time is a few secs, go for the Cardbus adapter.
Another option is a USB2 to SCSI-2 adapter.

"Sebastian Scholz" <scholz-news@gmx.de> wrote in message news:5ablatF1gb64fU1@mid.individual.net...
Quote:

Unfortunately I don't have such a document. I've been googling the
internet, too. No hits, sorry.

The scanner was built in 1989. Do these old devices really produce such
large amount of data (in such a short time period)? What I want to do is
scanning middleformat-film (6 to 6 cm) in a 600x1200 dpi resolution.
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