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John Lewis
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 Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: Consoles vs PCs --- stating the very obvious... but from an |
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From an Asssociate Press Technology article published today:-
Chris Donahue, group manager of Microsoft's Games for Windows unit,
admits that DX10 is an example of the PC surpassing the consoles. The
company's own Xbox 360, for example, uses a custom version of the
older DX9 standard that can't be upgraded.
"Consoles are a snapshot of where the PC is at the time they were
made," he said. "The consoles are a step that stays flat for five
years. The PC is basically a 45 degree angle."
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I like the 45 degree angle analogy.............
Consoles..flat for 5 years......... unless, of course you decided to
buy a Xbox360 two years ago, then sell it on Ebay and buy a Xbox360
Elite, then sell it a year or so from now on Ebay and buy a Xbox720
(with a new Dx10-compatible GPU and integrated HD or BluRay drive).
And as for upgrade accessories instead of unit-swaps.......Add a
HD-DVD drive for $200, Swap out a wimpy 20Gbyte drive for a
slightly-less-wimpy $175 120Gbyte drive. Swap the HD-DVD drive for a
Blu-ray drive... $200. Nickel and dimed to death..held ransom to a
particular console family by the software purchases. At least
hopefully the hardware evolution in a particular console-family will
preserve software backward-compatibility....
Gets kinda expensive... comparable with upgrading PC graphics-cards
and CPUs, but without the wide range of functionality and
price-choices available to the PC upgrade purchaser... with Dx10
hardware now ranging from $99.99 to $599, and with comprehensive
video decoding silicon even on the least expensive graphics-cards.
John Lewis |
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Dirk Dreidoppel
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Consoles vs PCs --- stating the very obvious... but from |
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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:46290ef6.10762500@news.verizon.net...
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From an Asssociate Press Technology article published today:-
Chris Donahue, group manager of Microsoft's Games for Windows unit,
admits that DX10 is an example of the PC surpassing the consoles. The
company's own Xbox 360, for example, uses a custom version of the
older DX9 standard that can't be upgraded.
"Consoles are a snapshot of where the PC is at the time they were
made," he said. "The consoles are a step that stays flat for five
years. The PC is basically a 45 degree angle."
============================================
I like the 45 degree angle analogy.............
Consoles..flat for 5 years......... unless, of course you decided to
buy a Xbox360 two years ago, then sell it on Ebay and buy a Xbox360
Elite, then sell it a year or so from now on Ebay and buy a Xbox720
(with a new Dx10-compatible GPU and integrated HD or BluRay drive).
And as for upgrade accessories instead of unit-swaps.......Add a
HD-DVD drive for $200, Swap out a wimpy 20Gbyte drive for a
slightly-less-wimpy $175 120Gbyte drive. Swap the HD-DVD drive for a
Blu-ray drive... $200. Nickel and dimed to death..held ransom to a
particular console family by the software purchases. At least
hopefully the hardware evolution in a particular console-family will
preserve software backward-compatibility....
Gets kinda expensive... comparable with upgrading PC graphics-cards
and CPUs, but without the wide range of functionality and
price-choices available to the PC upgrade purchaser... with Dx10
hardware now ranging from $99.99 to $599, and with comprehensive
video decoding silicon even on the least expensive graphics-cards.
John Lewis
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There was a time when consoles were specialized gaming devices, with
proprietary technology, and the PC was inferior for gaming. PC technology
has evolved to equality over the years. So consoles started to become PCs
internally, castrated for gaming only use. Using the same parts for PCs and
consoles has cut down production costs.
Nowadays a console is no longer worthwhile, unless you only want gaming.
Even size isn't a factor anymore with small form PCs. So if you want to do
more than gaming, a PC is the answer, a console isn't needed, since gaming
on the PC is practically the same. You even get console style controllers
for the PC, if you want. |
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Phil, Non-Squid
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Consoles vs PCs --- stating the very obvious... but from |
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Dirk Dreidoppel wrote:
| Quote: | "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:46290ef6.10762500@news.verizon.net...
From an Asssociate Press Technology article published today:-
Chris Donahue, group manager of Microsoft's Games for Windows unit,
admits that DX10 is an example of the PC surpassing the consoles. The
company's own Xbox 360, for example, uses a custom version of the
older DX9 standard that can't be upgraded.
"Consoles are a snapshot of where the PC is at the time they were
made," he said. "The consoles are a step that stays flat for five
years. The PC is basically a 45 degree angle."
============================================
I like the 45 degree angle analogy.............
Consoles..flat for 5 years......... unless, of course you decided to
buy a Xbox360 two years ago, then sell it on Ebay and buy a Xbox360
Elite, then sell it a year or so from now on Ebay and buy a Xbox720
(with a new Dx10-compatible GPU and integrated HD or BluRay drive).
And as for upgrade accessories instead of unit-swaps.......Add a
HD-DVD drive for $200, Swap out a wimpy 20Gbyte drive for a
slightly-less-wimpy $175 120Gbyte drive. Swap the HD-DVD drive for a
Blu-ray drive... $200. Nickel and dimed to death..held ransom to a
particular console family by the software purchases. At least
hopefully the hardware evolution in a particular console-family will
preserve software backward-compatibility....
Gets kinda expensive... comparable with upgrading PC graphics-cards
and CPUs, but without the wide range of functionality and
price-choices available to the PC upgrade purchaser... with Dx10
hardware now ranging from $99.99 to $599, and with comprehensive
video decoding silicon even on the least expensive graphics-cards.
John Lewis
There was a time when consoles were specialized gaming devices, with
proprietary technology, and the PC was inferior for gaming. PC
technology has evolved to equality over the years. So consoles
started to become PCs internally, castrated for gaming only use.
Using the same parts for PCs and consoles has cut down production
costs.
Nowadays a console is no longer worthwhile, unless you only want
gaming. Even size isn't a factor anymore with small form PCs. So if
you want to do more than gaming, a PC is the answer, a console isn't
needed, since gaming on the PC is practically the same. You even get
console style controllers for the PC, if you want.
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You don't need anti-virus for your console, and the scheduled 1AM scan
doesn't interrupt your game of (fill in the blank), hehe. :P
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Dylan C
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Consoles vs PCs --- stating the very obvious... but from |
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Dirk Dreidoppel wrote:
| Quote: | Nowadays a console is no longer worthwhile, unless you only want gaming.
Even size isn't a factor anymore with small form PCs. So if you want to do
more than gaming, a PC is the answer, a console isn't needed, since gaming
on the PC is practically the same. You even get console style controllers
for the PC, if you want.
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For solo gaming, I'd say you are right. However, its nice to get some
friends together and set up some 4-player action without lugging 4 PCs,
4 Monitors, 4 keyboards etc. into the living room. In that regard,
consoles are superior.
-Dylan C |
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Dirk Dreidoppel
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Consoles vs PCs --- stating the very obvious... but from |
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| Quote: | Nowadays a console is no longer worthwhile, unless you only want gaming.
Even size isn't a factor anymore with small form PCs. So if you want to
do
more than gaming, a PC is the answer, a console isn't needed, since
gaming
on the PC is practically the same. You even get console style
controllers
for the PC, if you want.
For solo gaming, I'd say you are right. However, its nice to get some
friends together and set up some 4-player action without lugging 4 PCs,
4 Monitors, 4 keyboards etc. into the living room. In that regard,
consoles are superior.
-Dylan C
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Minor superiority, IMO. My friends and I have often done just that: Dragged
the PCs and peripherals over to one's house to set up some LAN gaming.
Neither of us have ever considered getting consoles to make that easier. And
most of the time we're doing online play via internet anyway or meet with no
gaming planned at all. |
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