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 Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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Hello,
I have been running an Athlon 2500 with XP Pro SP2, 512 MB, with out
problem.
I have had two hard shutdowns in the past week. I have run 4
antispyware programs and AV.
Now the computer will not recognize a data drive when I bootup OR it
will say Boot From CD. After rebooting, I can get back into the
system
but no recognition of that data drive.
On two occasions, I have played with cable connections and did get
the
G drive back until the next hard shutdown. I have tried letting it
cool with no success. On bootup the system reads CPU=41F, System=84F.
Does this sound like a bad drive or something off in the registry?
Thanks,
Bob |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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| Quote: | [quote="Anonymous"]
On two occasions, I have played with cable connections and did get the
G drive back until the next hard shutdown. I have tried letting it
cool with no success. |
From what you say it appears that it's not seeing the hard drive because... as you know the hard drive is the 1st boot device and if you have CD rom set as 2nd boot device it'll try to boot from CD rom instead as this is the 2nd option, which is what is happening.
So maybe trying the cable by subsitution and maybe the hard drive is a start... as you can appreciate there could well be other causes, but we have to start somewhere.
I had a similar problem a while ago, it'd reboot whenever it wanted... turned out to the hard drive going duff - a 3 or 4 yr old Western Digital.
I would forget the registry... since it can not be loaded if the hard drive isn't being read.
Davy |
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kony
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On 2 Apr 2007 10:12:42 -0700, kaplan@usernomics.com wrote:
| Quote: | By hard shutdown, I mean hitting the on/off button one time rather
than a simple reboot.
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Does it ever just reboot, perhaps due to a windows setting
or error when you get that IPNATHLP error (I assume you'd
misspelled it?) ? You might look around MS' website to
resolve that but I dont' think it related to a hard
shutdown.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293497
| Quote: |
My first indication that there was a problem was a hard shutdown when
in use. This happend three times but all was well with a normal
reboot. After these hard shutdowns, a hard reboot could not recognize
a second physical data drive. During the process of several hard
reboots, there were occasions when it wanted a boot from CD. But
further hard booting got past that and it booted up fine but no second
drive recognition. That seems to be the perminent state right now.
The system is:
AMD XP 2500+ 1.8 ghz
Corsair SMS pc3200 512 mb ram
ATI Radion 9600xt
Maxtor 20 gb (boot drive)
Maxtor 80 gb (Storage/Data)
7 Fans all working fine.
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You did not tell us about the drive interface as requested,
or the motherboard model.
If one drive were failing, it could upset detection and
function of another on same IDE channel. Go to the
manufacturer's website and get the HDD diagnostics app and
run that on both drives.
| Quote: |
I have no access to another set of cables or the manufacturers
diagnostics. I can't access that drive so I can't even run a disk
check.
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If you continue to have the problem, check the cable
visually, and the power plug. Temporarily unplug the data
drive and see if the problem persists. IIRC, your OS drive
shouldn't need rejumpered to do this so long as it was the
Master (Or on different PATA cable).
| Quote: |
There is an Error in the Event Viewer - NPNATHLP .
I suppose I will have to take it to a repair shop so they can
troubleshoot the hardware. My other option is to buy a new hard drive.
I am not even sure what type hard drive but I guess it is an EIDE
drive because I have an IDE ATA/ATAPI controler.
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The EIDE or usually called PATA, as-in Parallel ATA is a
thicker round cable or a ribbon cable like most contemporary
optical drives used. SCSI is less likely but even larger
cable, either of these with two rows of pins on a wide
connector. SATA is a small thin cable and plugs. Odds are
it's PATA, but not impossible to be SATA as some later
socket A boards did have it or would be possible with an
add-on SATA card.
| Quote: |
Does this help any? What do you think about chancing it and dropping a
new hard drive in? I have all the data backed up.
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Run the diagnostics, unplug the suspect drive from power and
data cables to see if the problem persists. If the problem
persists it obviously wasn't the drive and you could expect
no relief from replacing it. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On Apr 2, 11:15 am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 2 Apr 2007 10:12:42 -0700, kap...@usernomics.com wrote:
By hard shutdown, I mean hitting the on/off button one time rather
than a simple reboot.
Does it ever just reboot, perhaps due to a windows setting
or error when you get that IPNATHLP error (I assume you'd
misspelled it?) ? You might look around MS' website to
resolve that but I dont' think it related to a hard
shutdown.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293497
My first indication that there was a problem was a hard shutdown when
in use. This happend three times but all was well with a normal
reboot. After these hard shutdowns, a hard reboot could not recognize
a second physical data drive. During the process of several hard
reboots, there were occasions when it wanted a boot from CD. But
further hard booting got past that and it booted up fine but no second
drive recognition. That seems to be the perminent state right now.
The system is:
AMD XP 2500+ 1.8 ghz
Corsair SMS pc3200 512 mb ram
ATI Radion 9600xt
Maxtor 20 gb (boot drive)
Maxtor 80 gb (Storage/Data)
7 Fans all working fine.
You did not tell us about the drive interface as requested,
or the motherboard model.
If one drive were failing, it could upset detection and
function of another on same IDE channel. Go to the
manufacturer's website and get the HDD diagnostics app and
run that on both drives.
I have no access to another set of cables or the manufacturers
diagnostics. I can't access that drive so I can't even run a disk
check.
If you continue to have the problem, check the cable
visually, and the power plug. Temporarily unplug the data
drive and see if the problem persists. IIRC, your OS drive
shouldn't need rejumpered to do this so long as it was the
Master (Or on different PATA cable).
There is an Error in the Event Viewer - NPNATHLP .
I suppose I will have to take it to a repair shop so they can
troubleshoot the hardware. My other option is to buy a new hard drive.
I am not even sure what type hard drive but I guess it is an EIDE
drive because I have an IDE ATA/ATAPI controler.
The EIDE or usually called PATA, as-in Parallel ATA is a
thicker round cable or a ribbon cable like most contemporary
optical drives used. SCSI is less likely but even larger
cable, either of these with two rows of pins on a wide
connector. SATA is a small thin cable and plugs. Odds are
it's PATA, but not impossible to be SATA as some later
socket A boards did have it or would be possible with an
add-on SATA card.
Does this help any? What do you think about chancing it and dropping a
new hard drive in? I have all the data backed up.
Run the diagnostics, unplug the suspect drive from power and
data cables to see if the problem persists. If the problem
persists it obviously wasn't the drive and you could expect
no relief from replacing it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Hello Again,
My motherboard is DFI nForce II ultra infinity.
I got the diagonoctic DOS program from Seagate/Maxtor and ran it. It
only showed one hard drive - the boot drive. That showed it was OK.
But it does not find the second drive at all.
By unplug the power, do mean to unplug the power to the hard drive
(cable connector with about 10 pins)? Should I do that and then
reboot?
The Error message I was getting (Error 30013 IPNATHLP) has to do with
DNS as follows:
The DHCP allocator has disabled itself on IP address 169.254.236.250,
since the IP address is outside the 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 scope
from which addresses are being allocated to DHCP clients. To enable
the DHCP allocator on this IP address, please change the scope to
include the IP address, or change the IP address to fall within the
scope.
Does the fact that the diagnostic program did not pick up the drive
imply that it is a cable?
Thanks,
Bob |
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Franc Zabkar
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On 2 Apr 2007 10:22:52 -0700, kaplan@usernomics.com put finger to
keyboard and composed:
| Quote: | The system is:
AMD XP 2500+ 1.8 ghz
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<snip>
| Quote: | By the way, I rechecked the temp during bootup and it is:
System= 86F / 30C
CPU= 105F / 41C
I am not sure if this is good or not.
Bob
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I have an ECS L7S7A2 motherboard with the same processor. My CPU temp
just after bootup is around 30C. I didn't check during assembly, but I
think the temp sensor is a diode inside the CPU socket. I don't know
how accurately this sensor tracks the CPU temperature, but I often see
a lower reading for CPU temp than case temp. I suspect that this
nonsensical result may be partly due to the case temp sensor's
proximity to the AGP card's GPU.
- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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kony
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On 2 Apr 2007 12:45:18 -0700, kaplan@usernomics.com wrote:
| Quote: | Hello Again,
As a follow-up - I unplugged the power and the data cables from the
suspect drive and rebooted.
The boot process hung at a Client MAC Address ____________ and then
went to Boot Failure and asked for the System Disk.
I tried several times with the cables disconnected and got the same
hang on the bootup.
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I think you have two problems. Problem 1 is windows
networking settings are misset or corrupt in some way, you
might (once windows boots, safe mode if necessary) change
whatever seems applicable from the prior MS KB link or other
links you find searching MS' website.
Second problem seems to be drive or cable connection
failure. Not having the diagnostic app see the drive does
not indicate the cable, it could still be the drive or
cable. Try to reseat the cable a few times, inspect it
visually and see if you can find a reason why it won't keep
a good connection.
| Quote: |
I reconnected the cables and it booted fine just as before and could
not find the second drive.
Does this tell you that I have a registry problem or something?
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Registry problem will not turn off the system. It will not
keep drives from being detected when the system is turned on
and proceeeds to boot. It's up to you which thing to tackle
first. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On Apr 2, 11:48 am, kap...@usernomics.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Apr 2, 11:15 am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2007 10:12:42 -0700, kap...@usernomics.com wrote:
By hard shutdown, I mean hitting the on/off button one time rather
than a simple reboot.
Does it ever just reboot, perhaps due to a windows setting
or error when you get that IPNATHLP error (I assume you'd
misspelled it?) ? You might look around MS' website to
resolve that but I dont' think it related to a hard
shutdown.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293497
My first indication that there was a problem was a hard shutdown when
in use. This happend three times but all was well with a normal
reboot. After these hard shutdowns, a hard reboot could not recognize
a second physical data drive. During the process of several hard
reboots, there were occasions when it wanted a boot from CD. But
further hard booting got past that and it booted up fine but no second
drive recognition. That seems to be the perminent state right now.
The system is:
AMD XP 2500+ 1.8 ghz
Corsair SMS pc3200 512 mb ram
ATI Radion 9600xt
Maxtor 20 gb (boot drive)
Maxtor 80 gb (Storage/Data)
7 Fans all working fine.
You did not tell us about the drive interface as requested,
or the motherboard model.
If one drive were failing, it could upset detection and
function of another on same IDE channel. Go to the
manufacturer's website and get the HDD diagnostics app and
run that on both drives.
I have no access to another set of cables or the manufacturers
diagnostics. I can't access that drive so I can't even run a disk
check.
If you continue to have the problem, check the cable
visually, and the power plug. Temporarily unplug the data
drive and see if the problem persists. IIRC, your OS drive
shouldn't need rejumpered to do this so long as it was the
Master (Or on different PATA cable).
There is an Error in the Event Viewer - NPNATHLP .
I suppose I will have to take it to a repair shop so they can
troubleshoot the hardware. My other option is to buy a new hard drive.
I am not even sure what type hard drive but I guess it is an EIDE
drive because I have an IDE ATA/ATAPI controler.
The EIDE or usually called PATA, as-in Parallel ATA is a
thicker round cable or a ribbon cable like most contemporary
optical drives used. SCSI is less likely but even larger
cable, either of these with two rows of pins on a wide
connector. SATA is a small thin cable and plugs. Odds are
it's PATA, but not impossible to be SATA as some later
socket A boards did have it or would be possible with an
add-on SATA card.
Does this help any? What do you think about chancing it and dropping a
new hard drive in? I have all the data backed up.
Run the diagnostics, unplug the suspect drive from power and
data cables to see if the problem persists. If the problem
persists it obviously wasn't the drive and you could expect
no relief from replacing it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Hello Again,
My motherboard is DFI nForce II ultra infinity.
I got the diagonoctic DOS program from Seagate/Maxtor and ran it. It
only showed one hard drive - the boot drive. That showed it was OK.
But it does not find the second drive at all.
By unplug the power, do mean to unplug the power to the hard drive
(cable connector with about 10 pins)? Should I do that and then
reboot?
The Error message I was getting (Error 30013 IPNATHLP) has to do with
DNS as follows:
The DHCP allocator has disabled itself on IP address 169.254.236.250,
since the IP address is outside the 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 scope
from which addresses are being allocated to DHCP clients. To enable
the DHCP allocator on this IP address, please change the scope to
include the IP address, or change the IP address to fall within the
scope.
Does the fact that the diagnostic program did not pick up the drive
imply that it is a cable?
Thanks,
Bob- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Hello Again,
As a follow-up - I unplugged the power and the data cables from the
suspect drive and rebooted.
The boot process hung at a Client MAC Address ____________ and then
went to Boot Failure and asked for the System Disk.
I tried several times with the cables disconnected and got the same
hang on the bootup.
I reconnected the cables and it booted fine just as before and could
not find the second drive.
Does this tell you that I have a registry problem or something?
Thanks,
Bob |
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davy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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kaplan@usernomics.com;15419 Wrote:
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On two occasions, I have played with cable connections and did get
the
G drive back until the next hard shutdown. Bob
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From what you say it appears that it's not seeing the hard drive
because... as you know the hard drive is the 1st boot device and if you
have CD rom set as 2nd boot device it'll try to boot from CD rom instead
as this is the 2nd option, which is what is happening.
So maybe trying the cable by subsitution and maybe the hard drive is
a start... as you can appreciate there could well be other causes, but
we have to start somewhere.
I had a similar problem a while ago, it'd reboot whenever it wanted...
turned out to the hard drive going duff - a 3 or 4 yr old Western
Digital.
I would forget the registry... since it can not be loaded if the hard
drive isn't being read.
Davy |
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Hymer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:4e43131kf3l34cv0lsgnviq8sal9ji026l@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On 2 Apr 2007 12:45:18 -0700, kaplan@usernomics.com wrote:
Hello Again,
As a follow-up - I unplugged the power and the data cables from the
suspect drive and rebooted.
The boot process hung at a Client MAC Address ____________ and then
went to Boot Failure and asked for the System Disk.
I tried several times with the cables disconnected and got the same
hang on the bootup.
I think you have two problems. Problem 1 is windows
networking settings are misset or corrupt in some way, you
might (once windows boots, safe mode if necessary) change
whatever seems applicable from the prior MS KB link or other
links you find searching MS' website.
Second problem seems to be drive or cable connection
failure. Not having the diagnostic app see the drive does
not indicate the cable, it could still be the drive or
cable. Try to reseat the cable a few times, inspect it
visually and see if you can find a reason why it won't keep
a good connection.
I reconnected the cables and it booted fine just as before and could
not find the second drive.
Does this tell you that I have a registry problem or something?
Registry problem will not turn off the system. It will not
keep drives from being detected when the system is turned on
and proceeeds to boot. It's up to you which thing to tackle
first.
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Hello Kony and Davy,
Thanks for all the help.
OK, I did another clean up of the box with air and vac. I reseated the
cables for the suspect drive. And would you believe that it worked?
I now have the drive recognized all appears well. I rebooted a couple of
times and it seems to hold. So, I think I either have a drive on the way out
and acting temperamentally like Davy says or it was just that the cables
were not well seated and connected. If the second drive does not get
recognized again, can I assume it must be on the way out?
I do still have that Event error 30013 IPNATHLP. One of the things I see
about this problem is:
___
From a newsgroup post: "Make sure no DHCP service is running on your
machines. ICS contains its own addressing solution and it sounds like this
is conflicting with the DHCP client service".
From a newsgroup post: "I had this problem with Windows XP. Microsoft online
support suggested checking all network connections in "My Network Places"
and disabling any sharing of internet connections. I found one item which
had this and I unchecked the internet sharing box. The error has not yet
recurred".
___
I do not have network or printer sharing on and I have everything set to
Obtain IP Address Automatically. But I am not sure where to look for DHCP
service.
I have three connection in Network Connections: TCP dialup, Local Area
Connection High Speed, and 1394 connection - cable modem. When I right click
on the Dialup connection, I found that it was set to the default connection.
I set it to not be the default connection.
Should I be looking for that DHCP Service?
Thanks so much,
Bob |
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kony
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:04:50 -0700, "Hymer"
<ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:
| Quote: | I now have the drive recognized all appears well. I rebooted a couple of
times and it seems to hold. So, I think I either have a drive on the way out
and acting temperamentally like Davy says or it was just that the cables
were not well seated and connected. If the second drive does not get
recognized again, can I assume it must be on the way out?
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No, since it's the same drive and cable, it could still have
a cable problem that resurfaces after a period of time. I
would carefully inspect each trying to determine what might
ensure the best connection possible, and if you'd planned on
placing an order online any time soon, putting a spare cable
in with the order, as it never hurts to have a spare cable
even if it turns out to be the drive _this_ time.
| Quote: | I do still have that Event error 30013 IPNATHLP.
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Do you mean that it reoccured, or that it's still in the log
from last time because you haven't yet cleared the log? If
it's not continuing to occur, wait and see if it does.
| Quote: | One of the things I see
about this problem is:
___
From a newsgroup post: "Make sure no DHCP service is running on your
machines. ICS contains its own addressing solution and it sounds like this
is conflicting with the DHCP client service".
From a newsgroup post: "I had this problem with Windows XP. Microsoft online
support suggested checking all network connections in "My Network Places"
and disabling any sharing of internet connections. I found one item which
had this and I unchecked the internet sharing box. The error has not yet
recurred".
___
I do not have network or printer sharing on and I have everything set to
Obtain IP Address Automatically. But I am not sure where to look for DHCP
service.
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Is it obtain IP address automatically for all the network
devices or are you only looking at one?
What about ICS, internet connection sharing? Do you need it
and if not, is it running? Have you changed any of the
service(s) running on the system? They can be accessed by
Start (Menu)-> Run -> (type) services.msc
Perhaps a better question is, have you changed anything
network related recently, besides what you just mentioned
above changing the default
| Quote: |
I have three connection in Network Connections: TCP dialup, Local Area
Connection High Speed, and 1394 connection - cable modem. When I right click
on the Dialup connection, I found that it was set to the default connection.
I set it to not be the default connection.
Should I be looking for that DHCP Service?
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As also seen on this page,
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=30013&eventno=1048&source=ipnathlp&phase=1
it could be your system can't see a DHCP server and has a
wrong IP address. What IP address does it have normally and
do you have another DHCP server on the LAN, like a router or
modem with integral router or integral DHCP server? |
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Hymer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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| Quote: | I now have the drive recognized all appears well. I rebooted a couple of
times and it seems to hold. So, I think I either have a drive on the way
out
and acting temperamentally like Davy says or it was just that the cables
were not well seated and connected. If the second drive does not get
recognized again, can I assume it must be on the way out?
No, since it's the same drive and cable, it could still have
a cable problem that resurfaces after a period of time. I
would carefully inspect each trying to determine what might
ensure the best connection possible, and if you'd planned on
placing an order online any time soon, putting a spare cable
in with the order, as it never hurts to have a spare cable
even if it turns out to be the drive _this_ time.
I do still have that Event error 30013 IPNATHLP.
Do you mean that it reoccured, or that it's still in the log
from last time because you haven't yet cleared the log? If
it's not continuing to occur, wait and see if it does.
One of the things I see
about this problem is:
___
From a newsgroup post: "Make sure no DHCP service is running on your
machines. ICS contains its own addressing solution and it sounds like this
is conflicting with the DHCP client service".
From a newsgroup post: "I had this problem with Windows XP. Microsoft
online
support suggested checking all network connections in "My Network Places"
and disabling any sharing of internet connections. I found one item which
had this and I unchecked the internet sharing box. The error has not yet
recurred".
___
I do not have network or printer sharing on and I have everything set to
Obtain IP Address Automatically. But I am not sure where to look for DHCP
service.
Is it obtain IP address automatically for all the network
devices or are you only looking at one?
What about ICS, internet connection sharing? Do you need it
and if not, is it running? Have you changed any of the
service(s) running on the system? They can be accessed by
Start (Menu)-> Run -> (type) services.msc
Perhaps a better question is, have you changed anything
network related recently, besides what you just mentioned
above changing the default
I have three connection in Network Connections: TCP dialup, Local Area
Connection High Speed, and 1394 connection - cable modem. When I right
click
on the Dialup connection, I found that it was set to the default
connection.
I set it to not be the default connection.
Should I be looking for that DHCP Service?
As also seen on this page,
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=30013&eventno=1048&source=ipnathlp&phase=1
it could be your system can't see a DHCP server and has a
wrong IP address. What IP address does it have normally and
do you have another DHCP server on the LAN, like a router or
modem with integral router or integral DHCP server?
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Hi Kony,
I just reboot a couple more time and all is well. If I were to order a cable
online, what would I ask for - an EIDE Drive Cable?
The Event error occurs everytime I bootup. But it does not seem to affect
anything. I have not changed any connectivity things for a very long time.
For all I know, the error may have been there all along. I looked at all
three connections and all are set to Obtain IP Address Automatically.
Everything seems to be working: cable modem and dialup. I do have a Linksys
Cable/DSL modem (wired) and that seems to be working well also.
When I open Run/Services.msc I see the DHCP started and automatic but I do
not see ICS in the list. I am not sure where to look for DHCP.
I also now see that there are two other errors, both are the same: Service
Control Manager Event 7000. This is as follows:
This behavior can occur if you configure the service to log on to a user
account, and any of the following conditions are true: . The right to log on
as a service is revoked for the specified user account.
. The password is changed on the user account that the service uses to
log on.
. The password data in the registry is damaged.
I am on a one user system with no password. It automatically goes to my
account.
Well, I am happy that the drive is being recognized. Do you have any ideas
on the errors?
Thanks once again,
Bob |
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kony
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:28:31 -0700, "Hymer"
<ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:
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Hi Kony,
I just reboot a couple more time and all is well. If I were to order a cable
online, what would I ask for - an EIDE Drive Cable?
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I don't recall now which you had, but there's no need to
look back at the post, you can just compare the online
pictures to what you have.
| Quote: | Well, I am happy that the drive is being recognized. Do you have any ideas
on the errors?
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Search MS's website, or if you don't lack any functionality
you need, ignore them. |
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Hymer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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| Quote: | Good Morning Kony,
Well, this morning I booted up and I had no second drive plus the Event
Viewer showed a whole list of errors that just said "disk" with no
category.
I did an on/off and it took forever to move off of a black boot screen and
into Windows. Still no second drive. Then I booted a second time and got
the second drive. But I see the same list of "disk Events but now they are
just warnings.
So I have the drive back and it seems like it is a sporadic thing. Does
this sound like hardware?
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Hi Kony,
After posting problem this morning I got another surprise. I had a
spontaneous reboot while I was not at the computer. It rebooted itself with
the following error showing on the screen in a Microsoft Box:
Error Signature
C:\DOCUME~1\Bob\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER72f1.dir00\Mini040307-01.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\Bob\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER72f1.dir00\sysdata.xml
Of course, the second drive was not recognized on reboot and the Event
Viewer is showing Warning for the disk several times.
Does this give a clue to anything?
Thanks,
Bob |
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Hymer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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| Quote: | Good Morning Kony,
Well, this morning I booted up and I had no second drive plus the Event
Viewer showed a whole list of errors that just said "disk" with no
category.
I did an on/off and it took forever to move off of a black boot screen
and into Windows. Still no second drive. Then I booted a second time and
got the second drive. But I see the same list of "disk Events but now
they are just warnings.
So I have the drive back and it seems like it is a sporadic thing. Does
this sound like hardware?
Hi Kony,
After posting problem this morning I got another surprise. I had a
spontaneous reboot while I was not at the computer. It rebooted itself
with the following error showing on the screen in a Microsoft Box:
Error Signature
C:\DOCUME~1\Bob\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER72f1.dir00\Mini040307-01.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\Bob\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER72f1.dir00\sysdata.xml
Of course, the second drive was not recognized on reboot and the Event
Viewer is showing Warning for the disk several times.
Does this give a clue to anything?
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One more time Kony,
I checked the Event Viewer for the Warning on the Disk by clicking on it and
found it to be a hardware error (see below). I take this to mean cable or
hard drive. I did do a Check Disk on the second drive when it was up and it
was OK. So it could be the cable after all. My thought is to go buy a cable
and try it out. I didn't realize how easy and cheap it is to select and
install a cable.
Does this make sense or do you see something else?
Thanks Kony,
Bob
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Details
Product:
Windows Operating System
ID:
51
Source:
Disk
Version:
5.2
Symbolic Name:
IO_WARNING_PAGING_FAILURE
Message:
An error was detected on device %1 during a paging operation.
Explanation
An input/output (I/O) request to a memory-mapped file failed and the
operation was retried.
User Action
If these events are logged regularly on a primary system drive,
replace the device. Otherwise, no user action is required. |
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kony
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Hard shutdown - drive not recognized |
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:55:10 -0700, "Hymer"
<ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:
| Quote: | So it could be the cable after all. My thought is to go buy a cable
and try it out. I didn't realize how easy and cheap it is to select and
install a cable.
Does this make sense or do you see something else?
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yes, cable or drive |
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