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DanR
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 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: Raid or no Raid |
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Excuse the lack of specific details. I'm not at the computer in question.
I have a computer at work with 3 hard drives. The C: drive is IDE. D: and E:
are SCSI. I am trying to figure out if they are in a RAID configuration. My
C: drive died and I had to reinstall XP Pro on a new hard drive C:. Before
the crash I could access the D: and E: drives. Now only the D: drive is
visible. (even in XP drive management)
If both D: and E: physical hard drives appeared to the OS as individual
drives it seems to me that they could not have been set up in a RAID
configuration.
Is that correct?
I realize I probably have a driver issue but not sure which driver to look
for. One Dell SCSI RAID driver I downloaded insisted on being installed from
a floppy which this computer does not have. But maybe I don't want a RAID
driver??? Could I damage the data by installing the wrong driver.
The controller per POST is LSI Logic on the motherboard. |
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Rob Turk
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Excuse the lack of specific details. I'm not at the computer in question.
I have a computer at work with 3 hard drives. The C: drive is IDE. D: and
E: are SCSI. I am trying to figure out if they are in a RAID
configuration. My C: drive died and I had to reinstall XP Pro on a new
hard drive C:. Before the crash I could access the D: and E: drives. Now
only the D: drive is visible. (even in XP drive management)
If both D: and E: physical hard drives appeared to the OS as individual
drives it seems to me that they could not have been set up in a RAID
configuration.
Is that correct?
I realize I probably have a driver issue but not sure which driver to look
for. One Dell SCSI RAID driver I downloaded insisted on being installed
from a floppy which this computer does not have. But maybe I don't want a
RAID driver??? Could I damage the data by installing the wrong driver.
The controller per POST is LSI Logic on the motherboard.
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The concept of drive letters (C:, D:, E has a very loose relation with
physical drives. Drive letters represent partitions that have a supported
file system on it. Those partitions could very well be on a set of RAID
disks, but they can also all be on a single disk.
Two places where you can see the physical drives in XP is in de Device
manager (Right-click 'My Computer', click 'Manage', 'Device Manager', expand
'Disk drives'), and in Disk manager (Right-click 'My Computer', click
'Manage', expand 'Storage', click 'Disk Management'). The last one shows you
all defined partitions, their format and the physical disk they are on. Note
that RAID sets that are under control of a hardware RAID controller will
still show up as a single physical drive.
In your case, D: might very well be a RAID set on your SCSI disks, where C:
and E: are (were..) partitions on your IDE disk.
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DanR
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"Rob Turk" <wipe_this_r.turk@chello.nl> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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Excuse the lack of specific details. I'm not at the computer in question.
I have a computer at work with 3 hard drives. The C: drive is IDE. D: and
E: are SCSI. I am trying to figure out if they are in a RAID
configuration. My C: drive died and I had to reinstall XP Pro on a new
hard drive C:. Before the crash I could access the D: and E: drives. Now
only the D: drive is visible. (even in XP drive management)
If both D: and E: physical hard drives appeared to the OS as individual
drives it seems to me that they could not have been set up in a RAID
configuration.
Is that correct?
I realize I probably have a driver issue but not sure which driver to
look for. One Dell SCSI RAID driver I downloaded insisted on being
installed from a floppy which this computer does not have. But maybe I
don't want a RAID driver??? Could I damage the data by installing the
wrong driver.
The controller per POST is LSI Logic on the motherboard.
The concept of drive letters (C:, D:, E has a very loose relation with
physical drives. Drive letters represent partitions that have a supported
file system on it. Those partitions could very well be on a set of RAID
disks, but they can also all be on a single disk.
Two places where you can see the physical drives in XP is in de Device
manager (Right-click 'My Computer', click 'Manage', 'Device Manager',
expand 'Disk drives'), and in Disk manager (Right-click 'My Computer',
click 'Manage', expand 'Storage', click 'Disk Management'). The last one
shows you all defined partitions, their format and the physical disk they
are on. Note that RAID sets that are under control of a hardware RAID
controller will still show up as a single physical drive.
In your case, D: might very well be a RAID set on your SCSI disks, where
C: and E: are (were..) partitions on your IDE disk.
Rob
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I'm going in to work later in the day and will do what you suggest.
A few things I do know are that there are indeed 3 physical drives in the
computer. Drive C: shares the IDE channel with the CD/DVD drive. The other 2
drives are chained and connected to the motherboard. (SCSI)
I know little about RAID. But from what I've read there are 3 main RAID
setups. 0,1,5. If my setup was RAID 0 the SCSI drives would appear as 1
drive but the capacity of the drives would equal the sum of the 2 drives.
(?) If my setup was RAID 1 then the 2 drives would be mirror images of each
other. (?)
The drives have always appeared as 3 individual drives to the OS. So if my
setup was RAID... which flavor of RAID would it be?
The computer is used as a video encoder. Video from tape or live sources is
inputted and converted to various formats on the fly using Digital Rapids
Stream. (software/hardware)
The missing drive is not killing our ability to use the computer as one of
the SCSI drives is available to encode to. And the new C: drive is 300+GB
where the old C: drive was around 50GB so I have lots of archive room. But I
wonder if the remaining SCSI drive is running optimally. |
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DanR
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"Rob Turk" <wipe_this_r.turk@chello.nl> wrote in message
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I'm going in to work later in the day and will do what you suggest.
A few things I do know are that there are indeed 3 physical drives in the
computer. Drive C: shares the IDE channel with the CD/DVD drive. The
other 2 drives are chained and connected to the motherboard. (SCSI)
I know little about RAID. But from what I've read there are 3 main RAID
setups. 0,1,5. If my setup was RAID 0 the SCSI drives would appear as 1
drive but the capacity of the drives would equal the sum of the 2 drives.
(?) If my setup was RAID 1 then the 2 drives would be mirror images of
each other. (?)
The drives have always appeared as 3 individual drives to the OS. So if
my setup was RAID... which flavor of RAID would it be?
You're drawing the wrong conclusions. You assume that just because you
have three physical drives and three logical drives, that there must be a
one-on-one relationship. You said in your original message that you lost
drive C: and E: when the IDE drive went dead. That would lead me to
believe that logical drive C: and E: were two partitions on your IDE disk,
and drive D: may well be a logical drive in a RAID set on the two SCSI
disks. I can't tell if it's RAID-0 or RAID-1. You could try to figure it
out by comparing the size of D: to the size of the physical hard disks.
You
could also try to run the LSI Logic utilities (built-in BIOS prompt maybe)
to see if the RAID config shows up.
Rob
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Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new C:. I
did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know how
to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and see if
I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit booting I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were many
many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But it
was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier. WinXP can not find a driver and the Dell site SCSI
(RAID and not-RAID) downloaded drivers insist on being loaded onto a floppy
disk. When I click on them they say cannot find a floppy and procedure
aborts. So, I'm thinking I can use a computer that does have a floppy to get
the drivers onto floppy disk. Then copy that file to a CD. Then I'm not
sure. Would I need to make that CD bootable. Would the floppy magically
become bootable. Why does the driver want to be on a floppy? Or maybe I
could just point device manager to the CD but why all the runaround??? If
the floppy's are really some kind of flash and I flash something wrongly I
think I'm in trouble...
I'll post back if I find the solution. |
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Rob Turk
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I'm going in to work later in the day and will do what you suggest.
A few things I do know are that there are indeed 3 physical drives in the
computer. Drive C: shares the IDE channel with the CD/DVD drive. The other
2 drives are chained and connected to the motherboard. (SCSI)
I know little about RAID. But from what I've read there are 3 main RAID
setups. 0,1,5. If my setup was RAID 0 the SCSI drives would appear as 1
drive but the capacity of the drives would equal the sum of the 2 drives.
(?) If my setup was RAID 1 then the 2 drives would be mirror images of
each other. (?)
The drives have always appeared as 3 individual drives to the OS. So if my
setup was RAID... which flavor of RAID would it be?
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You're drawing the wrong conclusions. You assume that just because you have
three physical drives and three logical drives, that there must be a
one-on-one relationship. You said in your original message that you lost
drive C: and E: when the IDE drive went dead. That would lead me to believe
that logical drive C: and E: were two partitions on your IDE disk, and drive
D: may well be a logical drive in a RAID set on the two SCSI disks. I can't
tell if it's RAID-0 or RAID-1. You could try to figure it out by comparing
the size of D: to the size of the physical harddisks. You could also try to
run the LSI Logic utilities (built-in BIOS prompt maybe) to see if the RAID
config shows up.
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Rob Turk
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor
before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not
available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new C:.
I
did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know
how
to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and see
if
I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit booting
I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were many
many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But
it
was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier.
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Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would make the
partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original config. If you
install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C: partition, any
other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for Adaptec
cards.
On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It insists on
unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can the load the
driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that has a
floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on it to your
system using a CD, USB key or across a network. In device manager you can
then point it to the location of the files.
Rob |
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DanR
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"Rob Turk" <wipe_this_r.turk@chello.nl> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor
before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not
available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new C:.
I
did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know
how
to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and see
if
I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit booting
I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were many
many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But
it
was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier.
Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would make
the partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original config. If
you install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C: partition,
any other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for Adaptec
cards.
On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It insists
on unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can the load
the driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that has
a floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on it to
your system using a CD, USB key or across a network. In device manager you
can then point it to the location of the files.
Rob
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Thanks again Rob. I will do the floppy load on Tuesday.
Also will install the old drive in another computer and look for partitions.
Dan |
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"Rob Turk" <wipe_this_r.turk@chello.nl> wrote in message news:9c14f$46109963$3ec2f251$7417@news.chello.nl
| Quote: | "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message news:o7XPh.4370$YL5.530@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor
before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not
available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new C:.
I
did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know
how
to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and see
if
I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit booting
I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were many
many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But
it
was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
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Nicely quoted.
| Quote: | Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier.
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That is weird, since one of the SCSI drives is seen.
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Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would make
the partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original config.
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IF the SCSI drives have extended partitions only.
Otherwise it's a whole new ballgame.
| Quote: | If you install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C: partition,
any other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for Adaptec
cards.
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"IMPORTANT: The SCSI BIOS Configuration Utility is a powerful tool.
If while using it, you somehow disable all of your controllers,
pressing Ctrl-A (or Ctrl-E on version 4.04 or later) after memory
initialization during reboot allows you to re-enable and reconfigure."
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On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It insists on
unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can then load the
driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that has a
floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on it to your
system using a CD, USB key or across a network.
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Or see if you can find an unzipper that can retract the files from the
selfextracting image.
| Quote: | In device manager you can then point it to the location of the files.
Rob |
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DanR
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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"Rob Turk" <wipe_this_r.turk@chello.nl> wrote in message
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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:o7XPh.4370$YL5.530@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor
before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not
available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new
C:. I
did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know
how
to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and
see if
I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit
booting I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were
many
many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But
it
was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm
guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore
the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier.
Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would make
the partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original config. If
you install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C:
partition, any other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for Adaptec
cards.
On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It insists
on unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can the load
the driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that has
a floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on it to
your system using a CD, USB key or across a network. In device manager
you can then point it to the location of the files.
Rob
Thanks again Rob. I will do the floppy load on Tuesday.
Also will install the old drive in another computer and look for
partitions.
Dan
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All is well.
I extracted the downloaded driver to floppy and copied those files to the
problem computer. Pointed device manager to this folder and the SCSI driver
was installed and immediately I had my missing drive back. (no restart)
Seems so simple looking back. The fact that the driver insisted on
extracting to floppy confused me.
This is text from the driver "version.txt" file:
Title : SCSI non-RAID:Ultra320 SCSI Controller Driver
Version : A00
OEM Name : LSI Logic
OEM V er : 1.08.15
Compute rs : Precision - 650
OS : Windows XP
Languages : English
I had a RAID and non-RAID version and just guessed non-RAID.
Because it's working I assume that was the correct guess.
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Raid or no Raid |
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Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc Advisor before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the new C:.
I did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but didn't know
how to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another computer and see
if I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it quit booting I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there were
many many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask him. But
it was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should have
mentioned that earlier.
Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would make
the partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original config. If
you install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C:
partition, any other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for Adaptec
cards.
On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It insists
on unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can the load
the driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that has
a floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on it to
your system using a CD, USB key or across a network. In device manager
you can then point it to the location of the files.
Rob
Thanks again Rob. I will do the floppy load on Tuesday.
Also will install the old drive in another computer and look for partitions.
Dan
All is well.
I extracted the downloaded driver to floppy and copied those files to the
problem computer. Pointed device manager to this folder and the SCSI driver
was installed and immediately I had my missing drive back. (no restart)
Seems so simple looking back. The fact that the driver insisted on
extracting to floppy confused me.
This is text from the driver "version.txt" file:
Title : SCSI non-RAID:Ultra320 SCSI Controller Driver
Version : A00
OEM Name : LSI Logic
OEM V er : 1.08.15
Compute rs : Precision - 650
OS : Windows XP
Languages : English
I had a RAID and non-RAID version and just guessed non-RAID.
Because it's working I assume that was the correct guess.
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Doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't work if you used the raid driver.
What still baffles me is that it could see the other SCSI drive and not the
'missing' one.
AFAIK the NT flavors of Windows need a driver to see drives, whether
they are BIOS included or not where in Win9x the drive would still be seen
through BIOS. Maybe this changed when Win9x and WinNT were crossed?
One explanation could then be that the drive seen is included in the BIOS
scan and the other is not.
Anyone -including OP- that can shed light on that?
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"DanR" dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
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Rob, thanks for you help. I have a saved readout from Belarc
Advisor before
the drive corrupted. But that readout is on a work computer. (not
available
now) I did go in today but mainly to load missing software on the
new C:.
I did the Control A to bring up the LSI Logic config page but
didn't know
how to interpret it. I'll stick the old/bad drive in another
computer and see
if I can determine if it had 2 active partitions. Even after it
quit booting I
could use BartPE to look around on it. (ran chkdsk /f and there
were
many many bad files)
The history of this computer is like I said earlier to encode
video. The
person who installed the extra drives is long gone so can't ask
him. But
it was set up to encode to the E: drive. (the missing drive) So I'm
guessing
that the E: drive was the fastest drive in the machine. And
therefore the
SCSI drive. Or at least one of them. I doubt he would have set it
up to
mirror as loosing data on these drives is not a big deal.
Device manager has unknown device for SCSI Controller. I should
have
mentioned that earlier.
Your old disk may also have a C: and D: partition on it. That would
make
the partition on the SCSI drive(s) the E: disk in the original
config. If
you install a brand new config on a new IDE disk with just a C:
partition, any other detected partition would become D:.
Are you sure you have an LSI Logic card? Control-A is usually for
Adaptec
cards.
On older systems, Dell used to offer only floppy disk images. It
insists
on unpacking the image to a 1.44MB floppy, after which you can the
load
the driver from it. Your best option is to find another computer that
has
a floppy drive, generate the floppy, and then transfer the files on
it to
your system using a CD, USB key or across a network. In device
manager
you can then point it to the location of the files.
Rob
Thanks again Rob. I will do the floppy load on Tuesday.
Also will install the old drive in another computer and look for
partitions.
Dan
All is well.
I extracted the downloaded driver to floppy and copied those files to the
problem computer. Pointed device manager to this folder and the SCSI
driver
was installed and immediately I had my missing drive back. (no restart)
Seems so simple looking back. The fact that the driver insisted on
extracting to floppy confused me.
This is text from the driver "version.txt" file:
Title : SCSI non-RAID:Ultra320 SCSI Controller Driver
Version : A00
OEM Name : LSI Logic
OEM V er : 1.08.15
Compute rs : Precision - 650
OS : Windows XP
Languages : English
I had a RAID and non-RAID version and just guessed non-RAID.
Because it's working I assume that was the correct guess.
Doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't work if you used the raid driver.
What still baffles me is that it could see the other SCSI drive and not
the
'missing' one.
AFAIK the NT flavors of Windows need a driver to see drives, whether
they are BIOS included or not where in Win9x the drive would still be seen
through BIOS. Maybe this changed when Win9x and WinNT were crossed?
One explanation could then be that the drive seen is included in the BIOS
scan and the other is not.
Anyone -including OP- that can shed light on that?
Thanks again for the help.
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Won't be able to check bios until Tuesday but I do "sort of" recall seeing
another drive in bios but was confused as to whether it was just the DVD/CD
drive. During the post when the SCSI load came up it mentioned the drive
size of only the one drive. Didn't know what to make of that. But I don't
have details at the moment. Again... trying to remember... I think the drive
that noted size was the drive that was missing from WinXP Pro. So just
speculating now.
The bios on this Dell had very limited info on the hard drives. In the past
I remember seeing drive size, cylinders and more. Only size and name shows
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