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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

Hi

Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?

Please let me know if you can assist

Rgds

Phil Bartlett
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Reed
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

pbartlett wrote:
Quote:
Hi

Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?

Please let me know if you can assist

Rgds

Phil Bartlett

As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest

(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

On Mar 29, 4:35 am, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
Quote:
pbartlett wrote:
Hi

Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?

Please let me know if you can assist

Rgds

Phil Bartlett

As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest
(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)

Thanks Reed, but i tried this company a few weeks ago and they didn't
have stock :-(

We have several of the ALM3239CS and ALM3223 in for repair (We are a
datacoms repair centre). We have designed a rig that will power the
cards up and allow use to test them in dial-up config using a dte. But
when we want to change them to leased line mode we run into problems.
I'm assuming we need the ALM1623 and a personal controller to
configure the leased line aspect of the cards.

Any help would be grateful...

Rgds

Phil
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pbartlett
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

On Mar 29, 4:35 am, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
Quote:
pbartlett wrote:
Hi

Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?

Please let me know if you can assist

Rgds

Phil Bartlett

As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest
(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)

Also do you know is these worked in the RMD1690 chassis?
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Reed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

pbartlett wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 29, 4:35 am, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
pbartlett wrote:
Hi
Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?
Please let me know if you can assist
Rgds
Phil Bartlett
As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest
(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)

Also do you know is these worked in the RMD1690 chassis?


The product guide I still have shows the RMD1690 Model 3 chassis only

accepts the ALM3268 and RMD3264 cards
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Reed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

pbartlett wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 29, 4:35 am, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
pbartlett wrote:
Hi
Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?
Please let me know if you can assist
Rgds
Phil Bartlett
As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest
(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)

Thanks Reed, but i tried this company a few weeks ago and they didn't
have stock :-(

so much for an up-to-date listing !

Quote:

We have several of the ALM3239CS and ALM3223 in for repair (We are a
datacoms repair centre). We have designed a rig that will power the
cards up and allow use to test them in dial-up config using a dte. But
when we want to change them to leased line mode we run into problems.
I'm assuming we need the ALM1623 and a personal controller to
configure the leased line aspect of the cards.

Any help would be grateful...

Rgds

Phil


Looking at the 3239CS section of user manual, I don't see why LL vs dial
would be a problem for DTE configuration. Nothing says the PC is required.

--reed
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pbartlett
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

On 30 Mar, 04:36, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
Quote:
pbartlett wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:35 am, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
pbartlett wrote:
Hi
Bit of a long shot this.. but i'm looking to purchase a RACAL MKiii
Nest for ALM3239CS modems along with the Personal Controller unit?
Does anyone have one out there that they are no longer using?
Please let me know if you can assist
Rgds
Phil Bartlett
As you may know, the ALM3239CS also can fit in the ALM1623 Card Nest
(along with ALM3223 modem)

These guys show they have some in the US in California, and do Int'l
orders. They even show one in 220V !

http://www.codemicro.com/Catalog/Racal_Datacom.htm

--Reed (ex R-D SE)

Thanks Reed, but i tried this company a few weeks ago and they didn't
have stock :-(

so much for an up-to-date listing !



We have several of the ALM3239CS and ALM3223 in for repair (We are a
datacoms repair centre). We have designed a rig that will power the
cards up and allow use to test them in dial-up config using a dte. But
when we want to change them to leased line mode we run into problems.
I'm assuming we need the ALM1623 and a personal controller to
configure the leased line aspect of the cards.

Any help would be grateful...

Rgds

Phil

Looking at the 3239CS section of user manual, I don't see why LL vs dial
would be a problem for DTE configuration. Nothing says the PC is required.

--reed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We can power up the card using the rig and talk to the DTE (using
hayes commands) port fine if the modem is in dial mode. But if the
card has been previously in leased line mode then we can't talk to it
over the DTE port. If we plug in a VT terminal to the control port
and type

Connect 1,1

All that happens is that i echos back and no further dialogue. Our
engineers need to "talk" to the control port to be able to default the
card... any ideas?

Rgds
Phil
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Reed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

SNIP


Quote:

We can power up the card using the rig and talk to the DTE (using
hayes commands) port fine if the modem is in dial mode. But if the
card has been previously in leased line mode then we can't talk to it
over the DTE port. If we plug in a VT terminal to the control port
and type

Connect 1,1

All that happens is that i echos back and no further dialogue. Our
engineers need to "talk" to the control port to be able to default the
card... any ideas?

Rgds
Phil


Have you been able to use the "control" port with a "dial" modem, using
the VT "connect 1,1" etc ?? IOW, has control port (vs DTE port) access
via your "rig" ever worked ??

If it does, then I have no clue why LL mode fails.
If it does not work for dial either, then I suspect the "rig's" control
port is missing something.


--reed
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pbartlett
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

On 31 Mar, 02:54, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
Quote:
SNIP







We can power up the card using the rig and talk to the DTE (using
hayes commands) port fine if the modem is in dial mode. But if the
card has been previously in leased line mode then we can't talk to it
over the DTE port. If we plug in a VT terminal to the control port
and type

Connect 1,1

All that happens is that i echos back and no further dialogue. Our
engineers need to "talk" to the control port to be able to default the
card... any ideas?

Rgds
Phil

Have you been able to use the "control" port with a "dial" modem, using
the VT "connect 1,1" etc ?? IOW, has control port (vs DTE port) access
via your "rig" ever worked ??

If it does, then I have no clue why LL mode fails.
If it does not work for dial either, then I suspect the "rig's" control
port is missing something.

--reed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We are just connecting a VT directly to the control port on the card.
Does the ALM1623 only have one control port on it, though which you
can connect to any modem? or does the chassis have 1 control port for
every modem installed?
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Reed
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

pbartlett wrote:
Quote:
On 31 Mar, 02:54, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
SNIP







We can power up the card using the rig and talk to the DTE (using
hayes commands) port fine if the modem is in dial mode. But if the
card has been previously in leased line mode then we can't talk to it
over the DTE port. If we plug in a VT terminal to the control port
and type
Connect 1,1
All that happens is that i echos back and no further dialogue. Our
engineers need to "talk" to the control port to be able to default the
card... any ideas?
Rgds
Phil
Have you been able to use the "control" port with a "dial" modem, using
the VT "connect 1,1" etc ?? IOW, has control port (vs DTE port) access
via your "rig" ever worked ??

If it does, then I have no clue why LL mode fails.
If it does not work for dial either, then I suspect the "rig's" control
port is missing something.

--reed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We are just connecting a VT directly to the control port on the card.
Does the ALM1623 only have one control port on it, though which you
can connect to any modem? or does the chassis have 1 control port for
every modem installed?


From the 3239CS manual,

"connect the VT terminal's serial port to the control port of any 3239CS
installed in the card cage. This single connection allows the terminal
to control any 3239CS in up to 16 daisy-chained card cages. Set terminal
for 9600 8N1."

The cage's 3239CS backplane support 8 cards. 2 per cage

Sorry I do not have a ALM1623 Cage manual. It would appear there may be
some circuitry on the backplanes that directs control port communication
to a slot as necessary, or tells each card, by slot, what address to
respond to. It was somewhat common in Racal product cage/nests to have
backplanes that were more than just "wires".

Do you have any cages and BPs now to look at ??

--reed
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pbartlett
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: RACAL MKIII MODEM Nest Reply with quote

On Mar 31, 8:44 pm, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
Quote:
pbartlett wrote:
On 31 Mar, 02:54, Reed <r...@rmi.net> wrote:
SNIP

We can power up the card using the rig and talk to the DTE (using
hayes commands) port fine if the modem is in dial mode. But if the
card has been previously in leased line mode then we can't talk to it
over the DTE port. If we plug in a VT terminal to the control port
and type
Connect 1,1
All that happens is that i echos back and no further dialogue. Our
engineers need to "talk" to the control port to be able to default the
card... any ideas?
Rgds
Phil
Have you been able to use the "control" port with a "dial" modem, using
the VT "connect 1,1" etc ?? IOW, has control port (vs DTE port) access
via your "rig" ever worked ??

If it does, then I have no clue why LL mode fails.
If it does not work for dial either, then I suspect the "rig's" control
port is missing something.

--reed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We are just connecting a VT directly to the control port on the card.
Does the ALM1623 only have one control port on it, though which you
can connect to any modem? or does the chassis have 1 control port for
every modem installed?

From the 3239CS manual,
"connect the VT terminal's serial port to the control port of any 3239CS
installed in the card cage. This single connection allows the terminal
to control any 3239CS in up to 16 daisy-chained card cages. Set terminal
for 9600 8N1."

The cage's 3239CS backplane support 8 cards. 2 per cage

Sorry I do not have a ALM1623 Cage manual. It would appear there may be
some circuitry on the backplanes that directs control port communication
to a slot as necessary, or tells each card, by slot, what address to
respond to. It was somewhat common in Racal product cage/nests to have
backplanes that were more than just "wires".

Do you have any cages and BPs now to look at ??

--reed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Still been unable to find a chassis and or backplanes.. :-( So we are
experimenting to see if we can default a card back so it thinks its in
Slot 1 of chassis 1.

Also do you have any experinence with Timeplex? I'm trying to find
some Craft Person Station software to control a Timeplex ST1000 unit.
Have you ever come across this before?
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