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Lee M.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ update Reply with quote

I put the Duron back in and it runs fine so I apparently got a bad CPU.
Hope the Ebay seller honors his 30 day guarantee.

"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.


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Chris Hill
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com>
wrote:

Quote:
I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.
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Lee M.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
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Chris Hill
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.
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Lee MacMillan
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.


Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM. I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.
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dave
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.


Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.



Some PSUs, even though they have a high rating may still be marginal. So
for that reason I have to agree with Chris that there still is a slight
chance the PSU might be at fault.

Do you have the latest bios in the 8RDA+ ? If not maybe you should update
it with the Duron and then swap in the Barton.

DaveL
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Lee MacMillan
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"dave" <nospam> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
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"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so
it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb
2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the
FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could
have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron
back
in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.


Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a
chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.



Some PSUs, even though they have a high rating may still be marginal. So
for that reason I have to agree with Chris that there still is a slight
chance the PSU might be at fault.

Do you have the latest bios in the 8RDA+ ? If not maybe you should update
it with the Duron and then swap in the Barton.

DaveL

I have the Feb 2004 BIOS. I think there's one from July 2004. I'm sending

the Barton back. May try an Athlon T-bred at a lower clock speed or may
just leave the Duron alone. It's really all I need on this machine. I'm
just on a minor upgrade kick and I got the Barton cheap.
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Chris Hill
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:31:57 -0500, "Lee MacMillan"
<lmacmil@yahoo_X.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.


Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM. I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.

New does not always mean good. Psu's have been major trouble lately;
the I can make it cheaper boys have gotten to them.
>
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dave
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
Quote:

I have the Feb 2004 BIOS. I think there's one from July 2004. I'm
sending
the Barton back. May try an Athlon T-bred at a lower clock speed or may
just leave the Duron alone. It's really all I need on this machine. I'm
just on a minor upgrade kick and I got the Barton cheap.


I have two 8RDA+ machines. Both have T-bred 2100+ chips in them,
overclocked to 2 ghz (2400+) 12 x 166.

DaveL
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:31:57 -0500, "Lee MacMillan"
lmacmil@yahoo_X.com> wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:


"Chris Hill" <chill000@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com
wrote:

I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the
FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

Thanks.



Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could
have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.



Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.


Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.

New does not always mean good. Psu's have been major trouble lately;
the I can make it cheaper boys have gotten to them.


So is there any way to test a power supply other than adding components

until it can't keep up?
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Brian Rusten
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

I have a 2500+ overclocked slightly (Bios thinks it's a 2800+) that has been
running very stable in my 8RDA+ for at least 2 years with stock AMD cooling.

So the CPU should work.

Maybe it is the power supply, as suggested.

But also, as you suggested, you could well have a dead chip.

I assume you took all the usual care with the thermal paste, etc.?
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Lee MacMillan
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: No video with new CPU on 8RDA+ Reply with quote

"Brian Rusten" <brusten@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Lee M." <lmacmil@forget_it.com> wrote in message
news:6NqdnRmrR7EysJjbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com...
I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

I have a 2500+ overclocked slightly (Bios thinks it's a 2800+) that has
been
running very stable in my 8RDA+ for at least 2 years with stock AMD
cooling.

So the CPU should work.

Maybe it is the power supply, as suggested.

But also, as you suggested, you could well have a dead chip.

I assume you took all the usual care with the thermal paste, etc.?




Yes. The seller refunded me in full including shipping. I will probably
try one more time with a T-bred rather than the Barton.
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