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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: NF7-S and SATA: Random file corruptions - please help!! Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm desperate for advice and hope that someone here can help me.

I have had an NF7-S motherboard rig for over 3 years. I recently
upgraded to another machine and decided to give the old rig to my
mother.

I'm running:
NF7-S (v2)
2x SATA HDDs (not in raid)
GeForce 6800GT
1Gb RAM
All at stock


I reformatted the drive and installed Windows again. This time, I even
upgraded to Service Pack 2.

To install Windows, I had to press F6 in order to install some Silicon
Image drivers to get the drives recognised. I am NOT running a RAID
array, but have found that the only way to get Windows to see the
drives is via the Silicon Image driver.

I took the PC over to my mum's house and set it up. One thing that
scared me a little was that the PC refused to power up first time. The
Mobo LED went faint and died slowly after power was turned on. I
checked the cables, saw that nothing noticeable was amiss and tried
again. This time it started up.

About at week later, the PC got a Blue Screen of Death. It went into
an infite loop of bootup and reboot. Over and over. The BSOD flashed
up so fast you could barely see it, so I got windows (using F8) to
allow me to see it and saw: UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME. I fixed it using
CHKDSK /R.

Someone advised me that perhaps the drive was on its way out. So I
replaced it and reinstalled windows. It failed again with a week. My
mum completely lost confidence in the Rig and I setup her old PC
again.

I'd like my partner (who lives with me) to use the PC. That way I'm
around when the thing goes wrong. So I setup windows again. This time
it died after two weeks. My partner uses the PC a lot less than my mum
does.

This time, the NTFS.SYS is corrupted. I can't get into recovery
console and I can't overwrite the windows install.

I have:

1] Replaced the hard-drive
2] Switched off Quick startup in the BIOS, so that a memory test is
performed on startup. I've noticed that the memory counts up to the
full Gig. then starts again. That's not right, is it?
3] Run Memtest for 8 hours with no reported problems.
4] Installed an SP1 version of windows then upgraded to SP2.
5] Installed a version of windows with SP2 already on it.
6] Considered swapping the PSU. But have been told this probably isn't
the problem.
7] Replaced the cables between the Motherboard and the SATA drives in
case they were faulty.


I'd love to know if there's some sort of monitoring software that can
pinpoint the problem, or if this is a known problem with Abit, Silicon
Image and Service Pack 2?

Would be really grateful for your advice.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: NF7-S and SATA: Random file corruptions - please help!! Reply with quote

Marakith wrote:
Quote:
Hello,

I'm desperate for advice and hope that someone here can help me.

I have had an NF7-S motherboard rig for over 3 years. I recently
upgraded to another machine and decided to give the old rig to my
mother.

I'm running:
NF7-S (v2)
2x SATA HDDs (not in raid)
GeForce 6800GT
1Gb RAM
All at stock


I reformatted the drive and installed Windows again. This time, I even
upgraded to Service Pack 2.

To install Windows, I had to press F6 in order to install some Silicon
Image drivers to get the drives recognised. I am NOT running a RAID
array, but have found that the only way to get Windows to see the
drives is via the Silicon Image driver.

I took the PC over to my mum's house and set it up. One thing that
scared me a little was that the PC refused to power up first time. The
Mobo LED went faint and died slowly after power was turned on. I
checked the cables, saw that nothing noticeable was amiss and tried
again. This time it started up.

About at week later, the PC got a Blue Screen of Death. It went into
an infite loop of bootup and reboot. Over and over. The BSOD flashed
up so fast you could barely see it, so I got windows (using F8) to
allow me to see it and saw: UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME. I fixed it using
CHKDSK /R.

Someone advised me that perhaps the drive was on its way out. So I
replaced it and reinstalled windows. It failed again with a week. My
mum completely lost confidence in the Rig and I setup her old PC
again.

I'd like my partner (who lives with me) to use the PC. That way I'm
around when the thing goes wrong. So I setup windows again. This time
it died after two weeks. My partner uses the PC a lot less than my mum
does.

This time, the NTFS.SYS is corrupted. I can't get into recovery
console and I can't overwrite the windows install.

I have:

1] Replaced the hard-drive
2] Switched off Quick startup in the BIOS, so that a memory test is
performed on startup. I've noticed that the memory counts up to the
full Gig. then starts again. That's not right, is it?
3] Run Memtest for 8 hours with no reported problems.
4] Installed an SP1 version of windows then upgraded to SP2.
5] Installed a version of windows with SP2 already on it.
6] Considered swapping the PSU. But have been told this probably isn't
the problem.
7] Replaced the cables between the Motherboard and the SATA drives in
case they were faulty.


I'd love to know if there's some sort of monitoring software that can
pinpoint the problem, or if this is a known problem with Abit, Silicon
Image and Service Pack 2?

Would be really grateful for your advice.

.\\

Well it probably IS the power supply i.e. if you have done everything

you say you have. First though, do a good visual inspection of the
mother board its self, your looking for swollen capacitors, possible
broken components. Caps can be replaced; however, if you need a repair
shop to do the repair it going to cost you more than the board is worth.

As far as the power supply is concerned, some people will tell you to
get a DVM and measure the voltages. This rarely finds the problem
because unless that rail is dead the DVM isn't going to tell you
anything useful. The real problem in the switching power supply's is
excessive noise and you need an oscilloscope to trouble shoot.

Only practical way for the average person to troubleshoot is to replace
the power supply and see what happens. Sorry

Good Luck

Logan


PS The reason you get UNmountable volume and similar messages is because
trash is being written to your HD when windows closed from the previous
session, usually do to memory or power supply. Also if you turn off
quick start, memory counts to the max installed and then starts over. I
don't know how many times it will count, but that's why you use quick
start.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: NF7-S and SATA: Random file corruptions - please help!! Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply guys!

Yes - I was using two drives non RAID before.

I'm considering just getting another SATA card and installing that, so
going around the problem with the NF7 drive controller totally.

A new PSU is also something I'm considering.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: NF7-S and SATA: Random file corruptions - please help!! Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply guys!

Yes - I was using two drives non RAID before.


I'm considering just getting another SATA card and installing that,
so
going around the problem with the NF7 drive controller totally.


A new PSU is also something I'm considering.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: NF7-S and SATA: Random file corruptions - please help!! Reply with quote

On 8 Mar 2007 03:55:01 -0800, marakith@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Thanks for the reply guys!

Yes - I was using two drives non RAID before.


I'm considering just getting another SATA card and installing that,
so
going around the problem with the NF7 drive controller totally.


A new PSU is also something I'm considering.


Sorry so late to this, but Adrian just posted something you may find

useful:

http://www.techarp.com/showfreebog.aspx?lang=0&bogno=401

EXT-P2P's Discard Time

Common Options : 3.8µs, 9.6 µs, 30µs, 1ms

Quick Review

A bug in the nForce2's PCI-to-PCI bridge controller causes data
corruption when copying data between the integrated IDE controller and
the external SATA controller. The EXT-P2P's Discard Time BIOS feature
is used to circumvent this bug by giving the IDE and SATA controllers
more time to complete their transactions.

When set to 3.8µs, the IDE/SATA controller has to complete its
read transaction within 3.8µs, or it will be discarded in favour of
the next read request.

When set to 9.6µs, the IDE/SATA controller has to complete its
read transaction within 9.6µs, or it will be discarded in favour of
the next read request.

When set to 30µs, the IDE/SATA controller has to complete its read
transaction within 30µs, or it will be discarded in favour of the next
read request.

When set to 1ms, the IDE/SATA controller has to complete its read
transaction within 1ms, or it will be discarded in favour of the next
read request.

If you are using Serial ATA hard drives, you should set this BIOS
feature to 30µs. This should be more than enough time for most
IDE/SATA controllers to complete their transactions. Although it is
possible to use a shorter discard time with some hard drives, the risk
of data corruption offsets the gain in performance.

Because of differences in trace lengths and SATA controllers, some
motherboards may require a longer discard time. If you are still
facing data corruption issues, increase the discard time to 1ms
(1000µs). But this is not recommended as it reduces the transfer rate
between the IDE/SATA controllers.

If you are not using any Serial ATA hard drives, or use only Serial
ATA hard drives; this BIOS feature will not have any effect. This is
because there cannot be any PCI-to-PCI transfers between the IDE
controller and the SATA controller if you only use IDE hard drives or
SATA hard drives but not both. That is why this BIOS feature is grayed
out whenever the SATA controller is disabled.
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