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stevejg
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 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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| I have a pc with an IC7-G mb which has been running Win2k w/o issues for a couple of years. Recently I have needed to run some software that won't work on the Win2k, so I decided to add XP Pro. Long story short, after it didn't work and after trying many things, I thought there was an issue btwn the two OS's and decided to completely remove the Win2k. I have even reformatted the HDD (80gig WD) with their utility disk and then completely reloaded XP. Everything looks fine during the install, until the last full boot up. Then it locks up part way through. It will boot in safe and safe w/ command prompt, but not safe w/ networking. The XP Pro disk is an older one... might even be pre SP1. I've loaded it before on other systems with no issues. I also loaded all the drivers from the Abit cd, except the USB driver which it says to get from microsoft. After reading all the posts on this forum that seemed to be related, I still haven't been able to find anything which points to a resolution. Other than perhaps the HDD or RAM (2X256k) developing a glitch at exactly the same time as I was trying to convert the OS.... or the XP Pro cd being bad.... Anyone have any ideas? |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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"stevejg" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message news:12tie5lks1uqf7a@news.supernews.com...
| Quote: | I have a pc with an IC7-G mb which has been running Win2k w/o issues
for a couple of years. Recently I have needed to run some software
that won't work on the Win2k, so I decided to add XP Pro. Long story
short, after it didn't work and after trying many things, I thought
there was an issue btwn the two OS's and decided to completely remove
the Win2k. I have even reformatted the HDD (80gig WD) with their
utility disk and then completely reloaded XP. Everything looks fine
during the install, until the last full boot up. Then it locks up part
way through. It will boot in safe and safe w/ command prompt, but not
safe w/ networking. The XP Pro disk is an older one... might even be
pre SP1. I've loaded it before on other systems with no issues. I also
loaded all the drivers from the Abit cd, except the USB driver which
it says to get from microsoft. After reading all the posts on this
forum that seemed to be related, I still haven't been able to find
anything which points to a resolution. Other than perhaps the HDD or
RAM (2X256k) developing a glitch at exactly the same time as I was
trying to convert the OS.... or the XP Pro cd being bad.... Anyone
have any ideas?
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Try going into your system bios and disabling the onboard
network controller, USB and 1394. Finish installing XP
and then reenable these devices. XP should then be able
to load the required drivers. |
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stevejg
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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| Thanks for the tips. Tried them all.... no joy. I'm going after the video board next. |
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stevejg
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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| Tried 2 different video boards and two different monitors, again, no joy. Reset CMOS and loaded "optimized defaults", no joy. Added PCI ethernet card to see if it would help the "safe w/ networking" to boot, no joy. Nothing I could find in the logs told me anything. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Davy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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If you can get into bios then RAM, CPU & Graphic card are all OK as you'll access bios screen with just these items inserted, the single beep tells you that the bios has checked itself out (Power On self Test) it then hands over control to the CPU which then tells the hard drive to load the the os and start up programmes into RAM.
If at this stage all was well, with no hard drive it would ask you to "Insert the disc with the operating system on", 'No Disc" or something to this effect.
I could be wrong but what could be happening is that if the HDD had 2000 on then you reformatted with XP.... it could still leave 'footprints' of the old os behind which could cause a headache....
.... as you can appreciate if you format a XP drive some of the data can still be retrievd by modern wizardry.... this is why people rather destroy a HDD or use something like Killdisk or a similar programme.
| Quote: | Does formatting a hard drive wipe hard drive clean?
Many people don't realize that formatting the hard drive DOES NOT wipe hard drive clean. Your data is still there and is accessible to most file recovery programs and identity theives. With WipeDrive you can completely wipe hard drives to get your computer ready to sell, donate, or throw away. WipeDrive makes protecting yourself safe and easy. |
See http://www.whitecanyon.com/p-wipe-drive-wipe-hard-drive-clean.php
For Killdisc see http://www.killdisk.com/ Trouble is when you reformat you are only cleaning in one pass... to clean the drive properly requires several passes and can easily take at least 10 hours or so ~ the more passes there more secure.
This of course may not be your problem, thought I'd give it a mention in passing ~ just in case A new hard drive might be better than waiting x number of hours.
You should have no problems at all which versions of XP you install, whether Xp with or without Sp1/Sp2 as long as you have the licence key's, also you can have two operating systems on one drive providing you use a partition.... when you partition a drive it behaves as two seperate hard drives and you'll get asked which one to boot from when you power up.
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Barney Rubble
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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Strange, I have an IC7-G with XP Pro SP/2 and have re-loaded XP a number of
times with no issues. I do not know what your specific problem is, but it is
not endemic to the IC7....
"stevejg" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:12tohik5lum7fa0@news.supernews.com...
| Quote: | Tried 2 different video boards and two different monitors, again, no
joy. Reset CMOS and loaded "optimized defaults", no joy.
Added PCI ethernet card to see if it would help the "safe w/
networking" to boot, no joy. Nothing I could find in the logs
told me anything. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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stevejg
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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"Thank you" to the last two replies. Good info on both.
Regarding the total distruction of the data, I have also tried loading this pc with a hard drive that had a working copy of XP loaded on it and wasn't able to get a new load to stick.
Next I will put the hdd that I am trying to use into a working system and try loading it there. I'm doing this to verify two things. One, that there isn't a latent data issue on the hdd and, two, to verify my XP Pro cd. Just in case there is some issue there which has only shown up during this attempted install. |
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Davy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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| Quote: | | [quote="stevejg"] Next I will put the hdd that I am trying to use into a working system and try loading it there. |
That sounds like a good idea... just to prove the point, we're not concerned about the drivers at this stage.
Davy |
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Clive Coleman.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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In message <12tq5j32200bsb1@news.supernews.com>, Davy <no@spam.invalid>
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| Quote: | I could be wrong but what could be
happening is that if the HDD had 2000 on then you reformatted with
XP.... it could still leave 'footprints' of the old os behind which
could cause a headache....
I had a computer with Win2000pro on. I formatted the drive and |
installed XPsp2. I had no problems at all. But when I came to
install things like newsreaders etc, all the stuff that was on before
the format reappeared, proving as you said, formatting does not clean
the drive.
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fondue
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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"stevejg" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:12ttjea4bjb1c9b@news.supernews.com...
| Quote: | "Thank you" to the last two replies. Good info on both.
Regarding the total distruction of the data, I have also tried loading
this pc with a hard drive that had a working copy of XP loaded on it
and wasn't able to get a new load to stick.
Next I will put the hdd that I am trying to use into a working system
and try loading it there. I'm doing this to verify two things. One,
that there isn't a latent data issue on the hdd and, two, to verify my
XP Pro cd. Just in case there is some issue there which has only shown
up during this attempted install.
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Did the OP do a quick format or a full one?
I have had occasions where I installed a new OS and the recyler bin was
already full of documents pre-install. Can't recall if it was quick or full,
(most likely quick), but that was on a FAT32 partition. |
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stevejg
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Went from Win2k XP Pro, now it won't boot |
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First thing... to all who took the time to post a reply to my request for help... Thank You.
Second... it's working!!
Third... here's what I did... First, I made a bootable diskette and loaded the latest Bios off the Abit website and updated it. Had to try about five different times, but it finally worked. However, that didn't let me boot my system. Next, I moved the hard drive into a working pc with the idea of doing a full install on it to verify the XP Pro cd itself. Interestingly, the system booted up, with some minor mgs mostly related to the hardware differences. I was just pressing the reset button when another window popped up to tell me something else... didn't get a chance to read it though... but it wouldn't boot again after that... however, it did reboot into Safe w/ Networking. That allowed me to get to a website where I could download SP2. Microsoft's website wouldn't let me since I was in Safe mode. I then removed the hard drive, put it back in the problem child system and activated the SP2 update. After that, I booted up and I am happily doing about 100 additional updates off the Microsoft site.
So, while I am not 100% sure what got the job done, it's working and I'm happy.
Thanks again! |
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