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geronimo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2. I know it is
compatible with Windows XP. When I click on "launch Ghost" from the
taskbar icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths. But I
selected default for everything during setup. Well I tried to create
a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK,and it shut down
to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup. However after
selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start running, so I had to
reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever with a flashing
cursor. On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to
normal Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option
every time the PC boots. So what could be wrong that PC DOS would
fail to run....it surely is not my Windows version as Windows is not
yet running.
Thanks, Geronimo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2. I know it is
compatible with Windows XP. When I click on "launch Ghost" from the
taskbar icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths. But I
selected default for everything during setup. Well I tried to create
a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK,and it shut down
to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup. However after
selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start running, so I had to
reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever with a flashing
cursor. On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to
normal Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option
every time the PC boots. So what could be wrong that PC DOS would
fail to run....it surely is not my Windows version as Windows is not
yet running.
Thanks, Geronimo

I have had this on my machines that had ghost 2003 installed and usable for
a long time. They suddenly started saying it had completed with errors,
then eventually stopped booting into DOS and just hanging. Symantec updates
would not work either.

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update? I did
not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a couple
of OEM copies of Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are working fine, so
far. I am still looking around for a better alternative.
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Herman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

"Compfix" <compfix@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2. I know it is
compatible with Windows XP. When I click on "launch Ghost" from the
taskbar icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths. But I
selected default for everything during setup. Well I tried to create
a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK,and it shut down
to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup. However after
selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start running, so I had to
reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever with a flashing
cursor. On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to
normal Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option
every time the PC boots. So what could be wrong that PC DOS would
fail to run....it surely is not my Windows version as Windows is not
yet running.
Thanks, Geronimo

I have had this on my machines that had ghost 2003 installed and usable
for a long time. They suddenly started saying it had completed with
errors, then eventually stopped booting into DOS and just hanging.
Symantec updates would not work either.

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update? I did
not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a couple
of OEM copies of Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are working fine,
so far. I am still looking around for a better alternative.
I can recommend Acronis True Image, the best one I ever used.
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HDRDTD
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

Same here. Give Acronis TrueImage a try. you can download 1 15-day trial
version.

I've used Ghost since the old Ghost 6 days when it ran from a floppy.

Ghost 2003 was the last decent version. After that, they started changing
the look and feel as well as the functionality dramatically, and now I can't
stand it.

Back when I bought a new Dell about a year or so ago, I decided to upgrade
my copy of Ghost to the current version 9.0. It was so confusing and
difficult to use, I gave TrueImage a try based on a reccomendation.

I downloaded the 15-day version, tried it, and stuck with TrueImage ever
since.


"Herman" <herman@home.nl> wrote in message
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"Compfix" <compfix@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2. I know it is
compatible with Windows XP. When I click on "launch Ghost" from the
taskbar icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths. But I
selected default for everything during setup. Well I tried to create
a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK,and it shut down
to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup. However after
selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start running, so I had to
reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever with a flashing
cursor. On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to
normal Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option
every time the PC boots. So what could be wrong that PC DOS would
fail to run....it surely is not my Windows version as Windows is not
yet running.
Thanks, Geronimo

I have had this on my machines that had ghost 2003 installed and usable
for a long time. They suddenly started saying it had completed with
errors, then eventually stopped booting into DOS and just hanging.
Symantec updates would not work either.

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update? I
did not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a
couple of OEM copies of Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are working
fine, so far. I am still looking around for a better alternative.
I can recommend Acronis True Image, the best one I ever used.


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John Weiss
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

"Herman" <herman@home.nl> wrote...
Quote:

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update? I
did not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a
couple of OEM copies of Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are working
fine, so far. I am still looking around for a better alternative.

I can recommend Acronis True Image, the best one I ever used.

I never installed Ghost, but took up Acronis' offer for a free key for v7.
Installed and tried it. Worked great! Tried a test restore of my archive
partition. Boot from TrueImage recovery CD and restore from Firewire drive
worked great!

Of course, Acronis wants me to take them up on their special update price
from v7 to v10. I noticed that v10 is MUCH larger than v7 (101 MB vs 21 MB
for the install file). Since v7 works fine for the intended purpose, I
don't see any reason to pay for an upgrade.
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Compfix
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> wrote in
message news:HfmdnfGojZ9i0zzYnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
Quote:
"Herman" <herman@home.nl> wrote...

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update? I
did not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a
couple of OEM copies of Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are
working fine, so far. I am still looking around for a better
alternative.

I can recommend Acronis True Image, the best one I ever used.

I never installed Ghost, but took up Acronis' offer for a free key for v7.
Installed and tried it. Worked great! Tried a test restore of my archive
partition. Boot from TrueImage recovery CD and restore from Firewire
drive worked great!

Of course, Acronis wants me to take them up on their special update price
from v7 to v10. I noticed that v10 is MUCH larger than v7 (101 MB vs 21
MB for the install file). Since v7 works fine for the intended purpose, I
don't see any reason to pay for an upgrade.



Thanks all, I'll give Acronis a look
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

geronimo <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote

Quote:
Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2.

Its a dinosaur WAY past its useby date now.

Quote:
I know it is compatible with Windows XP.

The free True Image V7 leaves it for dead.

Quote:
When I click on "launch Ghost" from the taskbar
icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths.
But I selected default for everything during setup.

It does create a special boot partition and you can get a
misleading error message like that when it cant do that properly.

Quote:
Well I tried to create a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed
OK, and it shut down to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup.
However after selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start running,

Thats not that unusual, it isnt compatible with all systems, which
is why Ghost allows you to use MSDOS optionally instead.

Quote:
so I had to reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever with a flashing cursor.

Yes it will stall there forever.

Quote:
On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to normal Windows
mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option every time the PC boots.

You can fix that if you know what you are doing by deleting that special
partition that it uses for the boot to DOS. Be careful tho, its possible to
make your system unbootable if you dont know what you are doing.

Symantec does have an exe that will fix that problem
on their web site, but that doesnt always work.

Quote:
So what could be wrong that PC DOS would fail to run....

It doesnt like your hardware.

Quote:
it surely is not my Windows version as Windows is not yet running.

Yes, its got nothing to do with Win, everything to do with your hardware.

Just cut to the chase and change to True Image, you wont regret that.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

Compfix <compfix@btinternet.com> wrote:
Quote:
"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:tq12q2dmt5lncvkhog7qsterg16km7c6sq@4ax.com...
Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2. I know it is
compatible with Windows XP. When I click on "launch Ghost" from the
taskbar icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths. But
I selected default for everything during setup. Well I tried to
create a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK,and it
shut down to reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup.
However after selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start
running, so I had to reboot as it looked liked it would sit there
forever with a flashing cursor. On the reboot, I was able to hit the
down arrow to return to normal Windows mode. I supposed now I will
get this dual-boot option every time the PC boots. So what could be
wrong that PC DOS would fail to run....it surely is not my Windows
version as Windows is not yet running.
Thanks, Geronimo

I have had this on my machines that had ghost 2003 installed and
usable for a long time. They suddenly started saying it had
completed with errors, then eventually stopped booting into DOS and
just hanging. Symantec updates would not work either.

I never did find out what the problem was-possibly a windows update?
I did not have the time to fiddle around with it, so binned it. I had a couple of OEM copies of
Ghost 9 which I am now using and they are working fine, so far. I am still looking around for a
better alternative.

True Image.
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mdp
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:
Quote:
geronimo <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote

Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2.

Its a dinosaur WAY past its useby date now.

I know it is compatible with Windows XP.

The free True Image V7 leaves it for dead.

When I click on "launch Ghost" from the taskbar
icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths.
But I selected default for everything during setup.

It does create a special boot partition and you can get a
misleading error message like that when it cant do that properly.

Well I tried to create a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all
seemed OK, and it shut down to reboot into special DOS mode to make the
backup. However after selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS would never start
running,

Thats not that unusual, it isnt compatible with all systems, which
is why Ghost allows you to use MSDOS optionally instead.

so I had to reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever
with a flashing cursor.

Yes it will stall there forever.

On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to normal
Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option every time
the
PC boots.

You can fix that if you know what you are doing by deleting that
special partition that it uses for the boot to DOS. Be careful tho,
its possible to make your system unbootable if you dont know what you
are doing.
Symantec does have an exe that will fix that problem
on their web site, but that doesnt always work.

So what could be wrong that PC DOS would fail to run....


Ghost had a documented bug where PC DOS could not handle images larger than
2.1GB (MS DOS can) so Symantec came out with instructions on how to use PC
DOS (IBM) or MS DOS (Microsoft). If you didn't span a backup, it could
reach the 2.1GB limit and hang. I think PC DOS was bundled with Ghost 2001
thru 2003.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2000092514554025

However, I agree with the other posters. Acronis True Image is much better.
I use TI 9.0 now and used to use all NSW Pro from 2006 and earlier (the ones
with Ghost) or Ghost directly.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

mdp <markdpend@spambegone.aol.com> wrote
Quote:
Rod Speed wrote
geronimo <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote

Installed Norton Ghost 2003 in Windows XP Pro SP2.

Its a dinosaur WAY past its useby date now.

I know it is compatible with Windows XP.

The free True Image V7 leaves it for dead.

When I click on "launch Ghost" from the taskbar
icon, it says it failed to find the installation paths.
But I selected default for everything during setup.

It does create a special boot partition and you can get a
misleading error message like that when it cant do that properly.

Well I tried to create a backup with it by selecting BACKUP, all seemed OK, and it shut down to
reboot into special DOS mode to make the backup. However after selecting "run PCDOS", PCDOS
would never start running,

Thats not that unusual, it isnt compatible with all systems, which
is why Ghost allows you to use MSDOS optionally instead.

so I had to reboot as it looked liked it would sit there forever
with a flashing cursor.

Yes it will stall there forever.

On the reboot, I was able to hit the down arrow to return to normal
Windows mode. I supposed now I will get this dual-boot option every
time the PC boots.

You can fix that if you know what you are doing by deleting that
special partition that it uses for the boot to DOS. Be careful tho,
its possible to make your system unbootable if you dont know what you are doing. Symantec does
have an exe that will fix that problem on their web site, but that doesnt always work.

So what could be wrong that PC DOS would fail to run....

Ghost had a documented bug where PC DOS could not handle images larger than 2.1GB (MS DOS can)

That doesnt appear to be his problem, he doesnt even get to start creating the image.

Quote:
so Symantec came out with instructions on how to use PC DOS (IBM) or MS DOS (Microsoft).

That was always there with Ghost 2003. Presumably they just restated that.

Quote:
If you didn't span a backup, it could reach the 2.1GB limit and hang.

Yes, but he doesnt even get to start creating the image.

Quote:
I think PC DOS was bundled with Ghost 2001 thru 2003.

Yes, but you could always use msdos if you preferred or pcdos didnt work.

Quote:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2000092514554025

However, I agree with the other posters. Acronis True Image is much better. I use TI 9.0 now and
used to use all NSW Pro from 2006 and earlier (the ones with Ghost) or Ghost directly.

I dont bother with Ghost anymore. It does incremental
images dangerously and cant even do some stuff at all,
particularly it cant create an image after booting the CD.
And cloning is a complete and utter obscenity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

Yea, I pitched Ghost and got Acronis true Image. Nice thing about it
is that it crates an image from within Windows, don't have to reboot
into special DOS mode. Thanks, Geronimo
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

geronimo <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote:

Quote:
Yea, I pitched Ghost and got Acronis true Image.
Nice thing about it is that it crates an image from within
Windows, don't have to reboot into special DOS mode.

Yeah, that dinosaur approach is way past its useby date now.

Quote:
Thanks, Geronimo

No problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ghost 2003 won't work..... Reply with quote

There's a hard drive utility called DFSEE (www.dfsee.com) that may fit
your needs. It's shareware, but very good, with excellent support (the
author participates in a DFSEE Yahoo group.)


Alan

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