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Slor
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 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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I'm not extremely savvy on SCSI components, so I hope this won't be a silly
question.  At any rate, I have a SunBlade 100 that I would like to be
able to hook up a Multipak 12 drive array to. Is there a specific SCSI-3
card that I can buy for this machine that would be recognized by either
Solaris 8 or Solaris 10 and allow me to use the Multipak drives?
If there is a site I overlooked that has the answer, feel free to point me
in the right direction.
Thanks!
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Trinean
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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"Slor" <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in message
news:Xns98AFDDB10BA20emuslor@216.196.97.136...
| Quote: | I'm not extremely savvy on SCSI components, so I hope this won't be a
silly
question. At any rate, I have a SunBlade 100 that I would like to be
able to hook up a Multipak 12 drive array to. Is there a specific SCSI-3
card that I can buy for this machine that would be recognized by either
Solaris 8 or Solaris 10 and allow me to use the Multipak drives?
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All you should need is a Single-Ended Ultra/Wide SCSI so P/N 375-0097 would
do the trick.
| Quote: | If there is a site I overlooked that has the answer, feel free to point me
in the right direction.
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Just go to the handbook for the Sun Blade 100 and look under SCSI:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/SunBlade100/components.html#SCSI
No problem.
Trinean |
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Rich Teer
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Slor wrote:
| Quote: | I got ahold of an X6540A SCSI card (on the supported list for the Blade)
and a cable that goes from its connection type to that of the Multipak.
Unfortunately, I'm now fairly at a loss on how to set it up. I have
port A of the card connected to the top (in) port of the Multipak.
Since I'm fairly new to Solaris administration, I'm not sure if I should
expect the system to automatically find the drives after boot or if I
need to do something special to discover them, assuming that the device
is in fact functioning properly.
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First, make sure that the computer can see the drives, but typing
"probe-scsi-all" at the OK prompt. Assuming all is well, type
"boot -r". This will create all the necessary devices.
HTH,
--
Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member
President,
Rite Online Inc.
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Slor
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com>
wrote in news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0701091922220.10117@marrakesh:
| Quote: | On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Slor wrote:
I got ahold of an X6540A SCSI card (on the supported list for the
Blade) and a cable that goes from its connection type to that of the
Multipak. Unfortunately, I'm now fairly at a loss on how to set it
up. I have port A of the card connected to the top (in) port of the
Multipak. Since I'm fairly new to Solaris administration, I'm not
sure if I should expect the system to automatically find the drives
after boot or if I need to do something special to discover them,
assuming that the device is in fact functioning properly.
First, make sure that the computer can see the drives, but typing
"probe-scsi-all" at the OK prompt. Assuming all is well, type
"boot -r". This will create all the necessary devices.
HTH,
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When I run the probe-scsi-all command, I get the following:
/pci@1f,0/pci@5/scsi@2,1
Fatal SCSI error at script address 8 Illegal instruction (this repeats
about 20 times)
/pci@1f,0/pci@5/scsi@2
Fatal SCSI error at script address 8 Illegal instruction (again, this
repeats about 20 times)
I get the same results with nothing hooked up, with the Multipak hooked
up but empty, and with multiple drives connected in the Multipak.
By the way, I mistyped - the card is an X6541A.
Another note - I'm running the probe command after a "halt". The
command tells me it may lock up the machine if I got there via halt or
Stop-A. What's the recommended method for getting to the ok prompt? I
have a non-Sun, typical PC keyboard hooked up to it.
Thanks
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James
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Slor
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, Slor <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in
news:Xns98B3E94BF38A3emuslor@216.196.97.136:
| Quote: | Despite all prevention efforts, Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com
wrote in news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0701091922220.10117@marrakesh:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Slor wrote:
I got ahold of an X6540A SCSI card (on the supported list for the
Blade) and a cable that goes from its connection type to that of the
Multipak. Unfortunately, I'm now fairly at a loss on how to set it
up. I have port A of the card connected to the top (in) port of the
Multipak. Since I'm fairly new to Solaris administration, I'm not
sure if I should expect the system to automatically find the drives
after boot or if I need to do something special to discover them,
assuming that the device is in fact functioning properly.
First, make sure that the computer can see the drives, but typing
"probe-scsi-all" at the OK prompt. Assuming all is well, type
"boot -r". This will create all the necessary devices.
HTH,
When I run the probe-scsi-all command, I get the following:
/pci@1f,0/pci@5/scsi@2,1
Fatal SCSI error at script address 8 Illegal instruction (this
repeats about 20 times)
/pci@1f,0/pci@5/scsi@2
Fatal SCSI error at script address 8 Illegal instruction (again, this
repeats about 20 times)
I get the same results with nothing hooked up, with the Multipak
hooked up but empty, and with multiple drives connected in the
Multipak.
By the way, I mistyped - the card is an X6541A.
Another note - I'm running the probe command after a "halt". The
command tells me it may lock up the machine if I got there via halt or
Stop-A. What's the recommended method for getting to the ok prompt?
I have a non-Sun, typical PC keyboard hooked up to it.
Thanks
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Ignore part of that last one - I found the info on turning off autoboot,
so I was able to probe without the fatal errors. So far, I haven't been
able to detect a drive, but I'm working on it...
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Slor
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, Slor <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in
news:Xns98B3EAA615657emuslor@216.196.97.136:
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Ignore part of that last one - I found the info on turning off autoboot,
so I was able to probe without the fatal errors. So far, I haven't been
able to detect a drive, but I'm working on it...
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One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned needing to
use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI" device and also that
the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI". Might that be an indication
that this card will not properly operate the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
limited SCSI knowledge is making this difficult...
--
James
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Rich Teer
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Slor wrote:
| Quote: | One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned needing to
use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI" device and also that
the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI". Might that be an indication
that this card will not properly operate the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
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Yes. The Multipak is single ended, so it'll need a single ended HBA
in the SB100 in order to work correctly (at all).
--
Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member
President,
Rite Online Inc.
Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich |
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Slor
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com>
wrote in news:Pine.SOL.4.64.0701092031010.10161@marrakesh:
| Quote: | On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Slor wrote:
One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned
needing to use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI"
device and also that the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI".
Might that be an indication that this card will not properly operate
the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
Yes. The Multipak is single ended, so it'll need a single ended HBA
in the SB100 in order to work correctly (at all).
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That's what I feared. Thanks to both of you for the help on this - I've at
least learned a little bit and will keep looking for the more appropriate
card. :)
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Michael Laajanen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Hi,
Slor wrote:
| Quote: | Despite all prevention efforts, Slor <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in
news:Xns98B3EAA615657emuslor@216.196.97.136:
Ignore part of that last one - I found the info on turning off autoboot,
so I was able to probe without the fatal errors. So far, I haven't been
able to detect a drive, but I'm working on it...
One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned needing to
use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI" device and also that
the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI". Might that be an indication
that this card will not properly operate the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
limited SCSI knowledge is making this difficult...
In non-differential(single ended) mode "half" of the pins in the |
connector is connected to ground which could destroy the drivers on the
controller board if that boards is differential so pay attention.
/michael |
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Slor
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, "Trinean" <trinean@yahoo.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | "Slor" <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in message
news:Xns98B3E94BF38A3emuslor@216.196.97.136...
By the way, I mistyped - the card is an X6541A.
I had suggested you get something like 375-0097 which is option X5010A.
A 375-0005 which is option X6540A would also work and give 2 ports.
Both solutions are Single-Ended Ultra/Wide SCSI.
Unfortunately the option X6541A is P/N: 375-0006 which is Differential
Ultra/Wide SCSI and will not be compatible with the MultiPack.
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Right - unfortunately the card I happened to find lying around is the one I
couldn't use. I may be able to get an X5010A soon, so that should be
good.
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Slor
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Despite all prevention efforts, Michael Laajanen
<michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:50ju2tF1ggsg6U1@mid.individual.net:
| Quote: | One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned
needing to use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI"
device and also that the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI".
Might that be an indication that this card will not properly operate
the Multipak? Again, sorry if my limited SCSI knowledge is making
this difficult...
In non-differential(single ended) mode "half" of the pins in the
connector is connected to ground which could destroy the drivers on
the controller board if that boards is differential so pay attention.
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Oops - good to know. The card ports are still recognized, so hopefully I
didn't do the card any damage for potential future use.
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Michael Laajanen
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Hi,
Slor wrote:
| Quote: | Despite all prevention efforts, "Trinean" <trinean@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:IvSdnQ727fBR2zjYnZ2dnUVZ_tWhnZ2d@cavtel.net:
"Slor" <semaj@rols.ten> wrote in message
news:Xns98B3E94BF38A3emuslor@216.196.97.136...
By the way, I mistyped - the card is an X6541A.
I had suggested you get something like 375-0097 which is option X5010A.
A 375-0005 which is option X6540A would also work and give 2 ports.
Both solutions are Single-Ended Ultra/Wide SCSI.
Unfortunately the option X6541A is P/N: 375-0006 which is Differential
Ultra/Wide SCSI and will not be compatible with the MultiPack.
Right - unfortunately the card I happened to find lying around is the one I
couldn't use. I may be able to get an X5010A soon, so that should be
good.
The board below should be fine, there are faster onces ofcourse, this |
one will do 20MB/s IIRC.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Sunswift-Ethernet-and-SCSI-card-PCI-501-5656_W0QQitemZ230074033923QQihZ013QQcategoryZ20328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
/michael |
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Darren Dunham
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned needing to
use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI" device and also that
the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI". Might that be an indication
that this card will not properly operate the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
limited SCSI knowledge is making this difficult...
In non-differential(single ended) mode "half" of the pins in the
connector is connected to ground which could destroy the drivers on the
controller board if that boards is differential so pay attention.
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Definitely a good idea to avoid it, but I wouldn't get overly worried
about it. I've attached a number of HVD and non-HVD devices together
over the years (often incorrect terminators). It jams the bus royally,
but I've never noticed any permanent damage due to such incidents.
--
Darren Dunham ddunham@taos.com
Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/
Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area
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Michael Laajanen
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: Re: SunBlade 100 and Multipak 12? |
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Hi,
Darren Dunham wrote:
| Quote: | Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote:
One more reply to myself... I was another post that mentioned needing to
use an X6541A card to connect to a "differential SCSI" device and also that
the Multipak might be "single-ended SCSI". Might that be an indication
that this card will not properly operate the Multipak? Again, sorry if my
limited SCSI knowledge is making this difficult...
In non-differential(single ended) mode "half" of the pins in the
connector is connected to ground which could destroy the drivers on the
controller board if that boards is differential so pay attention.
Definitely a good idea to avoid it, but I wouldn't get overly worried
about it. I've attached a number of HVD and non-HVD devices together
over the years (often incorrect terminators). It jams the bus royally,
but I've never noticed any permanent damage due to such incidents.
Right, it usually works fine. As a rule of thumb, one can ground a |
signal without harm, but one soule never tie it to VCC(5 volt, 3,3 and so).
/michael |
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