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enigma
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:44 pm Post subject: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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Is there any difference between different brands of round cables? Is
there anything I should know or look out for, or are they all
interchangeable? Thanks. |
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~A_Sammy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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I read in maximum pc magazine you should stay away from them. 80 line
ribbons have 40 ground lines that keep cross talk to a minimum between data
lines, the round cables don't have that so you should use the 80 wire
ribbons according to them. |
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Timothy Daniels
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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"~A_Sammy" wrote:
| Quote: | I read in maximum pc magazine you should stay away from them.
80 line ribbons have 40 ground lines that keep cross talk to a
minimum between data lines, the round cables don't have that
so you should use the 80 wire ribbons according to them.
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"Round" cables do have 40 ground wires. Each ground wire
(colored white) is twisted llosely together with a signal wire,
producing 40 twisted pairs. Whether they work as well as a flat
ribbon cable is another thing. I use round cables with no
problems that I can discern - which is also not to say that they
are error-free. One nice thing about them, though, is that they
come in several lengths shorter than 18 inches and in configurations
with just one device connector (instead of two). That allows
shorter cables inside the case (minimising crosstalk) and allowing
a freer air path.
*TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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"enigma" wrote:
| Quote: | Is there any difference between different brands of round cables?
Is there anything I should know or look out for, or are they all
interchangeable? Thanks.
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Most seem to be made by 2 or 3 companies in the Orient and
imported by a dozen or so distributors and sold by scads of
retailers. I prefer the ones with an aluminum or copper braid
that acts as a shield against external EMI. The major difference
between brands seems to whether or not they have plastic ribbon
grips attached to the connectors to ease disconnection. It's a
real pain to pull out the connectors that don't have them if you're
concerned about not stressing the wires. Prices vary considerably,
so shop, shop, shop. You will also find that configurations are
available that are not the standard 18" with two device connectors.
You can get them shorter and with one device connector as well.
This will enable you to use the shortest cable necessary, further
improving the airflow situation. I found that SVC.com has a good
combination of selection and price, and IndyPC.com has single
device cables in lengths as short as 8".
*TimDaniels* |
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enigma
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:58 am Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:20:27 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
<TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote:
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"enigma" wrote:
Is there any difference between different brands of round cables?
Is there anything I should know or look out for, or are they all
interchangeable? Thanks.
Most seem to be made by 2 or 3 companies in the Orient and
imported by a dozen or so distributors and sold by scads of
retailers. I prefer the ones with an aluminum or copper braid
that acts as a shield against external EMI. The major difference
between brands seems to whether or not they have plastic ribbon
grips attached to the connectors to ease disconnection. It's a
real pain to pull out the connectors that don't have them if you're
concerned about not stressing the wires. Prices vary considerably,
so shop, shop, shop. You will also find that configurations are
available that are not the standard 18" with two device connectors.
You can get them shorter and with one device connector as well.
This will enable you to use the shortest cable necessary, further
improving the airflow situation. I found that SVC.com has a good
combination of selection and price, and IndyPC.com has single
device cables in lengths as short as 8".
*TimDaniels*
Thanks for all the feedback! I'm buying the rest of the pc parts at |
newegg, so will probably just go with what they have. They also have a
variety of brands, including generic, at very disparate prices, too.
Thanks again for the advice. |
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~A_Sammy
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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If they are twisted pairs that would help, I'm sure. I've never used the
round ones myself, but they must work or they'd be off the market by now.
Their big plus is airflow.
Speaking of airflow, I spend a few minutes after a system is working, you
know, when its ready to return, and just look at how the cables are
entagled. I remove them all and reinstall them in a cleaner order that
maximises air flow. I use a lot of wire tires to bundle things, and by
taking time bending the flat cables I can usually get them organized in a
neat manner, too. I use clear packing tape to bundle the cables to each
other. That makes it a pain when you have to take them apart later, but in
the meantime there is no mess inside the case, and things run cooler.
Sammy |
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stacey
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Any difference between round IDE cables? |
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~A_Sammy wrote:
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Speaking of airflow, I spend a few minutes after a system is working, you
know, when its ready to return, and just look at how the cables are
entagled. I remove them all and reinstall them in a cleaner order that
maximises air flow. I use a lot of wire tires to bundle things, and by
taking time bending the flat cables I can usually get them organized in a
neat manner, too.
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This is what I do and most of the good OEM's do as well.
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Stacey |
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