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Tony Stanford
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
Hi -

Can anyone please give me some advice. I have an old copy of Cool Edit
that I purchased years ago. I have some audio tapes that I wish to
transfer to CD to play on my stereo. I intend to record them on to hard
disk using Cool Edit, the only recording software I've got.

CD audio files are in cda format, but Cool Edit does not offer that
format in its Save options. In what format should I save the recorded
files in order to burn an audo cd?

I have done this before with Cool Edit and my CD burning software, but
I've forgotten how I did it!

Thanks!

Tony
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Buzz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
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Quote:

Hi -

Can anyone please give me some advice. I have an old copy of Cool Edit
that I purchased years ago. I have some audio tapes that I wish to
transfer to CD to play on my stereo. I intend to record them on to hard
disk using Cool Edit, the only recording software I've got.

CD audio files are in cda format, but Cool Edit does not offer that
format in its Save options. In what format should I save the recorded
files in order to burn an audo cd?

I have done this before with Cool Edit and my CD burning software, but
I've forgotten how I did it!

Thanks!

Tony
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Buzz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
"Tony Stanford" <tonystanford@hotmail.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
icTOpRAir8gFFwLw@clara.net...
Quote:

Hi -

Can anyone please give me some advice. I have an old copy of Cool Edit
that I purchased years ago. I have some audio tapes that I wish to
transfer to CD to play on my stereo. I intend to record them on to hard
disk using Cool Edit, the only recording software I've got.

CD audio files are in cda format, but Cool Edit does not offer that
format in its Save options. In what format should I save the recorded
files in order to burn an audo cd?

I have done this before with Cool Edit and my CD burning software, but
I've forgotten how I did it!

Thanks!

Tony

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Save them as Windows PCM Wav at 44100 Khz ,16 bits and stereo.

Any burning software will convert these files automatically to standard cda
if you burn an AUDIO CD

See how I do similar things here :
http://www.a-reny.com/iexplorer/restauration.html


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http://www.a-reny.com
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Tony Stanford
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
Many thanks for the responses!

Tony
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Tony Stanford
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, at 12:26:56, Buzz <Buzz@SLIPonline.fr> wrote
Quote:
Save them as Windows PCM Wav at 44100 Khz ,16 bits and stereo.

I notice that this format takes up a lot of space. I've got 30 mins of a
language tape that is 280MB is this format.

I want to get all this stuff on disk and then transfer it to an MP3
player, which I haven't got yet. If I want to keep this stuff on disk in
a more economical format (using Cool Edit), for later conversion to MP3
on an Ipod, what would be the best format? I haven't got the Ipod yet,
so I don't know what format the software needs for conversion to MP3, or
whether Cool Edit will supply that format. Can I convert wav files to
MP3?

Thanks again
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
On 2006-12-16, Tony Stanford <tonystanford@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, at 12:26:56, Buzz <Buzz@SLIPonline.fr> wrote
Save them as Windows PCM Wav at 44100 Khz ,16 bits and stereo.

I notice that this format takes up a lot of space. I've got 30 mins of a
language tape that is 280MB is this format.

You say you also want to put it on an audio CD.

Audio files, if you want them exactly as recorded of some noise which is
random and are not very compressible. FLACC (FLAC?) is a rather new format
(unsupported by most things) which can compress audio a bit (around 50%) but
is "lossless" (you lose no quality and can recover the exact originals). You
could save them in that format which may well not be recognized by your MP3
encoder and convert back to WAV format for later encoding. It can save some
disk space.

It is best to save the files for later work in a lossless format,
either the originals, or FLACC (FLAC?).

If you save as MP3 (or in another lossy compressed format) and load them
to edit them or just compress them again to save even more space - each
time you lose quality.

Quote:
I want to get all this stuff on disk and then transfer it to an MP3
player, which I haven't got yet. If I want to keep this stuff on disk in
a more economical format (using Cool Edit), for later conversion to MP3
on an Ipod, what would be the best format?

Best is lossless. Either WAV or lossless (FLAC).

Quote:
Can I convert wav files to MP3?

Most surely. There are various settings in creating an MP3 file. It will not
sound exactly like the original (MP3 loses data and some of the sound in
order to create a simpler sound which it can compress better). It can take
awhile to create an MP3 file it you tell it to do the best job it can
(quality setting) (using LAME on a 933MHz Linux system with quality setting
set to zero, the highest level in LAME, for 128 kilo-bit-per-second, stereo
takes longer to compress than play many sound files).

On the other hand, if you don't compress it as much, you don't have to use
so high a quality setting (use a higher bitrate - larger file).

So a mixture of quality setting and bitrate would be used to get the result
you want. If you want an exact copy of the sound, you would burn the WAV
files to an audio CD and use an audio CD player (but would only get 74 min
per CD and the files would take up about ten meg per minute). Depending on
the amount of ram or hard drive size in your MP3 player, you may be willing
to have fewer files but of higher quality (higher bitrate) and may be
willing to spend more time encoding them (higher quality setting in the
encoding step). The more files you want to fit on your player, the lower the
bitrate will be and the lower the quality.
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Tony Stanford
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, at 15:15:37, Spamless <Spamless@Nil.nil> wrote
Quote:
It is best to save the files for later work in a lossless format,
either the originals, or FLACC (FLAC?).
[Snip]


Thanks for all the info. Guess I'll have to stick with .wav, since cool
edit doesn't do FLACC.
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GHalleck
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
Tony Stanford wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, at 12:26:56, Buzz <Buzz@SLIPonline.fr> wrote

Save them as Windows PCM Wav at 44100 Khz ,16 bits and stereo.


I notice that this format takes up a lot of space. I've got 30 mins of a
language tape that is 280MB is this format.

I want to get all this stuff on disk and then transfer it to an MP3
player, which I haven't got yet. If I want to keep this stuff on disk in
a more economical format (using Cool Edit), for later conversion to MP3
on an Ipod, what would be the best format? I haven't got the Ipod yet,
so I don't know what format the software needs for conversion to MP3, or
whether Cool Edit will supply that format. Can I convert wav files to MP3?

Thanks again

Cannot convert to MP3 via CoolEdit. (BTW, I still use Syntrilium
CoolEdit 96.) Some of the burning applications such as Roxio may
be able to rip from *.CDA directly to MP3. And there should be
music editors for MP3 --- check Google.
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Jarkka
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Cool-Edit formats Reply with quote
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:55:42 +0000, Tony Stanford
<tonystanford@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, at 15:15:37, Spamless <Spamless@Nil.nil> wrote
It is best to save the files for later work in a lossless format,
either the originals, or FLACC (FLAC?).
[Snip]

Thanks for all the info. Guess I'll have to stick with .wav, since cool
edit doesn't do FLACC.

It does. Use the Adobe Audition plugin from
http://www.flac.org/flac.htm#plugin
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