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Lee
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 Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Hi Ben
First thing I notice was you were still her helping! Maybe you can tell
me what is wrong with my old GW G6 333Mhz. All of a sudden it just
seems that the memory has been used up. I keep getting the blue screen
of Death with the code OE 0028:0000000D and have gone through the
exercise about deleting startup items with no luck and have started the
advanced portion of MSconfig so far with no luck. I get the feeling it
is memory which is no surprise as the old 1998 machine only has the max
256 megs of ram. Any tips? I have also gotten codes of OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD. So far I
have had no luck in fixing it and believe it or not I hate to dump the
old machine as I still use it.
Gateway has made some good machines and all I have had done since buying
the machine in 98 is replace the floppy disk drive. Finally replaced
the optical Floppy with just a standard floppy other than that most has
been the same!
Thanks for any assistance you maybe be able to offer.
Lee (in Florida) |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Lee wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Ben
First thing I notice was you were still her helping! Maybe you can
tell me what is wrong with my old GW G6 333Mhz. All of a sudden it
just seems that the memory has been used up. I keep getting the blue
screen of Death with the code OE 0028:0000000D and have gone through
the exercise about deleting startup items with no luck and have
started the advanced portion of MSconfig so far with no luck. I get
the feeling it is memory which is no surprise as the old 1998 machine
only has the max 256 megs of ram. Any tips? I have also gotten codes
of OD C670:206f0a7f and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from
0028:C00301F9 in VXD. So far I have had no luck in fixing it and
believe it or not I hate to dump the old machine as I still use it.
Gateway has made some good machines and all I have had done since
buying the machine in 98 is replace the floppy disk drive. Finally
replaced the optical Floppy with just a standard floppy other than
that most has been the same!
Thanks for any assistance you maybe be able to offer.
Lee (in Florida)
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While you're waiting for Ben may I offer some suggestions:
Provide a description of what you are/were doing before it crashed.
Have you installed any HW lately?
Have you installed and SW lately, programs, updates, etc?
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BillW50
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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"mdp" <markdpend@spambegone.aol.com> wrote in message
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Hahaha... I'm withholding my comments until asked. But who wants to hear
from an EE, right? lol
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Omigosh, the same Lee who escaped the cold weather in Massachusetts? Wow, long
time no speak.
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download and run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it shows some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the make and model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If any hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is probably time to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you can get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet that the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some other bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are mostly different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:41:40 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Ben
First thing I notice was you were still her helping! Maybe you can tell
me what is wrong with my old GW G6 333Mhz. All of a sudden it just
seems that the memory has been used up. I keep getting the blue screen
of Death with the code OE 0028:0000000D and have gone through the
exercise about deleting startup items with no luck and have started the
advanced portion of MSconfig so far with no luck. I get the feeling it
is memory which is no surprise as the old 1998 machine only has the max
256 megs of ram. Any tips? I have also gotten codes of OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD. So far I
have had no luck in fixing it and believe it or not I hate to dump the
old machine as I still use it.
Gateway has made some good machines and all I have had done since buying
the machine in 98 is replace the floppy disk drive. Finally replaced
the optical Floppy with just a standard floppy other than that most has
been the same!
Thanks for any assistance you maybe be able to offer.
Lee (in Florida) |
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Lee
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download and run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it shows some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the make and model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If any hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is probably time to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you can get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet that the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some other bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are mostly different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
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OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC Errs
___________________________________________________________________________
8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it? (grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
Lee (in Florida) |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:26 am Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Well, Memtest says the memory is just fine. What about the hard drive? Maybe
it's feeling a little ill? Run diagnostics to find out. If the hard drive is
just fine, maybe its time to reload Windows, because the problem could simply be
scr**ed up software, so scr**ed up you can't fix it... Ben Myers
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:15:10 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Ben Myers wrote:
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download and run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it shows some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the make and model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If any hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is probably time to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you can get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet that the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some other bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are mostly different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC Errs
___________________________________________________________________________
8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it? (grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
Lee (in Florida) |
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Muddle
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sfhuk2paa6h43sr0iadc2krasut54v76pf@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Rule number one of computer problem diagnosis: Make absolutely sure that
the
HARDWARE is 100% A-OK before looking for software problems. Examining
faultlog.txt puts the cart before the horse... Ben Myers
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Sorry Ben, however in recent posts even a reinstall was suggested.
Faultlog.txt also logs hardware and driver faults and conflicts
OE 0028:0000000D and OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD tells me
nothing. What VXD, what application caused the fault etc.
You need, Tapisrv has caused an Invalid Page Fault in module Kernel32.dll
or it's equivilent to diagnose such problems. There are hundreds of VXD's
on my computer, without knowing which one and which application cased the
error your wandering in the dark.
| Quote: | On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:45 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It would be best if you posted the entire faultlog.txt.
If you have tweakui installed on the Paranoia tab check the box next to
"Log
application errors to FAULTLOG.TXT. If you don't have it installed,
install
it. After you get a number of errors logged open the file and copy and
post
the entire contents of the text file here. You'll find faultog.txt in
your
Windows folder after you turn it on. It's difficult to find information
on
these errors given the info you provided.
The version TweakUI 1.2 included on the Windows 98 SE CD, in the
\tools\reskit\powertoy\ folder is fine for this even though there are
newer
versions. After installing it go to the control panel and you'll see a
new
icon labeled TweakUI.
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:dectk2d3flt5urtml6ibt64097t3kcb26d@4ax.com...
Well, Memtest says the memory is just fine. What about the hard
drive?
Maybe
it's feeling a little ill? Run diagnostics to find out. If the hard
drive is
just fine, maybe its time to reload Windows, because the problem could
simply be
scr**ed up software, so scr**ed up you can't fix it... Ben Myers
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:15:10 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Ben Myers wrote:
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download and
run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it
shows
some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the make
and
model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If
any
hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is probably
time
to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you can
get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet
that
the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some
other
bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the
computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are mostly
different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less
just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC
Errs
__________________________________________________________________________
_
8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the
cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it
seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the
background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it? (grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
Lee (in Florida)
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: PINGL Ben Myers |
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Can I shout across the internet in capital letters a repeated request? HAS THE
HARD DRIVE BEEN TESTED WITH MANUFACTURER'S DIAGNOSTICS AND SHOWN TO BE
ERROR-FREE? This MUST be done first to have confidence that the hardware is
fucntioning properly, or we all might as well go tilting at windmills. I hope
I have made myself clear! Until the hardware is 100% error free, faultlog.txt
or any other Microsoft diagnostic tool is not worth a ***... Ben Myers
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:24:58 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: |
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sfhuk2paa6h43sr0iadc2krasut54v76pf@4ax.com...
Rule number one of computer problem diagnosis: Make absolutely sure that
the
HARDWARE is 100% A-OK before looking for software problems. Examining
faultlog.txt puts the cart before the horse... Ben Myers
Sorry Ben, however in recent posts even a reinstall was suggested.
Faultlog.txt also logs hardware and driver faults and conflicts
OE 0028:0000000D and OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD tells me
nothing. What VXD, what application caused the fault etc.
You need, Tapisrv has caused an Invalid Page Fault in module Kernel32.dll
or it's equivilent to diagnose such problems. There are hundreds of VXD's
on my computer, without knowing which one and which application cased the
error your wandering in the dark.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:45 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It would be best if you posted the entire faultlog.txt.
If you have tweakui installed on the Paranoia tab check the box next to
"Log
application errors to FAULTLOG.TXT. If you don't have it installed,
install
it. After you get a number of errors logged open the file and copy and
post
the entire contents of the text file here. You'll find faultog.txt in
your
Windows folder after you turn it on. It's difficult to find information
on
these errors given the info you provided.
The version TweakUI 1.2 included on the Windows 98 SE CD, in the
\tools\reskit\powertoy\ folder is fine for this even though there are
newer
versions. After installing it go to the control panel and you'll see a
new
icon labeled TweakUI.
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:dectk2d3flt5urtml6ibt64097t3kcb26d@4ax.com...
Well, Memtest says the memory is just fine. What about the hard
drive?
Maybe
it's feeling a little ill? Run diagnostics to find out. If the hard
drive is
just fine, maybe its time to reload Windows, because the problem could
simply be
scr**ed up software, so scr**ed up you can't fix it... Ben Myers
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:15:10 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Ben Myers wrote:
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download and
run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it
shows
some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the make
and
model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If
any
hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is probably
time
to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you can
get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet
that
the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some
other
bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the
computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are mostly
different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less
just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC
Errs
__________________________________________________________________________
_
8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the
cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it
seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the
background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it? (grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
Lee (in Florida)
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Muddle
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How many of you have paid for Ontrack or Spinrite diagnostic software.
Christ Ben, give it a rest, I've been here off and on as long as you have.
If you even think your hard drive is a problem throw the damned thing away
and get another.
A thirty gig cost pennies on the dollar compared to the cost when you
purchased this 10 year old computer.
Memory testing software is nothing but a scam. Don't purchase memory at
BestBuy or Ebay, get it from Crucial or Kingston.
Post your faultlog!
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sc1vk2p387pkvvc983vq1cm3k6pggbqpt6@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Can I shout across the internet in capital letters a repeated request?
HAS THE
HARD DRIVE BEEN TESTED WITH MANUFACTURER'S DIAGNOSTICS AND SHOWN TO BE
ERROR-FREE? This MUST be done first to have confidence that the hardware
is
fucntioning properly, or we all might as well go tilting at windmills. I
hope
I have made myself clear! Until the hardware is 100% error free,
faultlog.txt
or any other Microsoft diagnostic tool is not worth a ***... Ben Myers
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:24:58 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sfhuk2paa6h43sr0iadc2krasut54v76pf@4ax.com...
Rule number one of computer problem diagnosis: Make absolutely sure
that
the
HARDWARE is 100% A-OK before looking for software problems. Examining
faultlog.txt puts the cart before the horse... Ben Myers
Sorry Ben, however in recent posts even a reinstall was suggested.
Faultlog.txt also logs hardware and driver faults and conflicts
OE 0028:0000000D and OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD tells me
nothing. What VXD, what application caused the fault etc.
You need, Tapisrv has caused an Invalid Page Fault in module
Kernel32.dll
or it's equivilent to diagnose such problems. There are hundreds of
VXD's
on my computer, without knowing which one and which application cased the
error your wandering in the dark.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:45 GMT, "Muddle"
bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It would be best if you posted the entire faultlog.txt.
If you have tweakui installed on the Paranoia tab check the box next
to
"Log
application errors to FAULTLOG.TXT. If you don't have it installed,
install
it. After you get a number of errors logged open the file and copy
and
post
the entire contents of the text file here. You'll find faultog.txt in
your
Windows folder after you turn it on. It's difficult to find
information
on
these errors given the info you provided.
The version TweakUI 1.2 included on the Windows 98 SE CD, in the
\tools\reskit\powertoy\ folder is fine for this even though there are
newer
versions. After installing it go to the control panel and you'll see
a
new
icon labeled TweakUI.
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:dectk2d3flt5urtml6ibt64097t3kcb26d@4ax.com...
Well, Memtest says the memory is just fine. What about the hard
drive?
Maybe
it's feeling a little ill? Run diagnostics to find out. If the
hard
drive is
just fine, maybe its time to reload Windows, because the problem
could
simply be
scr**ed up software, so scr**ed up you can't fix it... Ben Myers
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:15:10 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Ben Myers wrote:
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download
and
run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it
shows
some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the
make
and
model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If
any
hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is
probably
time
to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you
can
get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet
that
the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some
other
bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the
computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are
mostly
different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less
just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have
the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC
Errs
_________________________________________________________________________
_
_
8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the
cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D
and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion
eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it
seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the
background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it?
(grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
Lee (in Florida)
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Lee
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | Can I shout across the internet in capital letters a repeated request? HAS THE
HARD DRIVE BEEN TESTED WITH MANUFACTURER'S DIAGNOSTICS AND SHOWN TO BE
ERROR-FREE? This MUST be done first to have confidence that the hardware is
fucntioning properly, or we all might as well go tilting at windmills. I hope
I have made myself clear! Until the hardware is 100% error free, faultlog.txt
or any other Microsoft diagnostic tool is not worth a ***... Ben Myers
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Ok guys I did the WD drive checkup and it proved to be OK, also got that
program for Faultlog.txt installed and supposedly running but got no
report from it so I assume since I did a whole computer search there was
nothing wrong either with the boot up. I thought as a minimum it would
give an OK report but nothing found when I searched the drive, yes I did
check it to make a report. Maybe it is just a wild hair making the old
computer go crazy.
Thanks for the tips as it helped me learn a little more about checking
for problems, can't ever say you know it all as there is always
something to learn.
I will just piddle and hope I might find a fault and be able to frix it!
With the memory being tied up I am suspicious of Norton which has always
been a big user of memory and with 256 megs of ram there is not much to
spare!
Thanks again guys, Ben glad to see you are still helping those of us who
need the help. Also thanks to Muddle!
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Okay. Now you know that the hardware is in a reasonably good operational
state.
The next steps:
1. Boot computer in safe mode for all.
2. Download and run CCleaner (Crap Cleaner). Have CCleaner remove all the junk
from the registry. Then have it clean up all the files it can. It does a
better and more complete job than Windows' own Disk Cleanup.
3. Download and run EZCLeaner by Toni Arts. Same deal. Have it clean up the
registry, then remove all the useless files.
4. Reboot normally and see what happens.
Why do this? Because the registry is a weakly implemented and poorly designed
data base at the heart of Windows. The registry often gets messed up and has
been known to cause BSODs and other fun adventures. Likewise, very few Windows
programs are very good about cleaning up after themselves. Think of Crap
Cleaner as a pooper scooper for software that defecates files all over a
computer. The programmers are all like little children or pet animals that
need constant cleaning up after. The most offensive programs in this regard
are "published" by guess who? Well, Micro$oft, of course. A marketing
organization masquerading as software engineers... Ben Myers
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:30:48 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Ben Myers wrote:
Can I shout across the internet in capital letters a repeated request? HAS THE
HARD DRIVE BEEN TESTED WITH MANUFACTURER'S DIAGNOSTICS AND SHOWN TO BE
ERROR-FREE? This MUST be done first to have confidence that the hardware is
fucntioning properly, or we all might as well go tilting at windmills. I hope
I have made myself clear! Until the hardware is 100% error free, faultlog.txt
or any other Microsoft diagnostic tool is not worth a ***... Ben Myers
Ok guys I did the WD drive checkup and it proved to be OK, also got that
program for Faultlog.txt installed and supposedly running but got no
report from it so I assume since I did a whole computer search there was
nothing wrong either with the boot up. I thought as a minimum it would
give an OK report but nothing found when I searched the drive, yes I did
check it to make a report. Maybe it is just a wild hair making the old
computer go crazy.
Thanks for the tips as it helped me learn a little more about checking
for problems, can't ever say you know it all as there is always
something to learn.
I will just piddle and hope I might find a fault and be able to frix it!
With the memory being tied up I am suspicious of Norton which has always
been a big user of memory and with 256 megs of ram there is not much to
spare!
Thanks again guys, Ben glad to see you are still helping those of us who
need the help. Also thanks to Muddle!
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I won't give it a rest! I've paid exactly $0.000000 for ALL of the
manufacturers' hard drive diagnostic software in my collection. WD, Hitachi
(IBM), Seagate (also Maxtor/Quantum), Samsung, and Fujitsu all have free
downloads available. Why pay for software when perfectly good diagnostic
software is available for free? Only Toshiba, of the remaining major driver
manufacturers, does not provide free disk diagnostic software, and Hitachi's
works just fine on Toshiba drives.
Let's not lose track of the problem here! The OP is trying to figure out why
his system is not working right. I will assume that he has some valuable data
on the drive. If the drive is OK, he can then proceed to figure out what is
wrong at the level of the software. If the drive is failing, this would be a
pretty fair explanation for the BSODs, wouldn't it? Cost of a replacement hard
drive is understood to be small these days, much less valuable than the data
accumulated on most people's hard drives.
Step Numero Uno for me is to make sure that the hardware is working OK. If it
is not, the software can misbehave because of the faulty hardware. I have
followed this principle in servicing thousands of computers over the years, and
it works perfectly for me.
Late Friday, I got a call from someone who complained that his Dell must be
infected by a virus because it was running so slow. I collected the computer
(we do door-to-door service), and ran WD's diagnostic which told me that the
drive was failing and badly. My customer will get a replacement hard drive with
Windows reloaded, and as much of his personal data as I can salvage from the old
drive. I did not need to look at any faultlogs to figure this out. In fact,
I would be pissing away a lot of time looking at faultlogs had I not run the WD
drive diagnostic software first.
I have nothing against faultlogs. They have their place. In a fully
functional computer with its hardware operating properly.
Is there something that I have failed to explain clearly? Maybe three times
now? ... Ben Myers
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:21:21 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | How many of you have paid for Ontrack or Spinrite diagnostic software.
Christ Ben, give it a rest, I've been here off and on as long as you have.
If you even think your hard drive is a problem throw the damned thing away
and get another.
A thirty gig cost pennies on the dollar compared to the cost when you
purchased this 10 year old computer.
Memory testing software is nothing but a scam. Don't purchase memory at
BestBuy or Ebay, get it from Crucial or Kingston.
Post your faultlog!
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sc1vk2p387pkvvc983vq1cm3k6pggbqpt6@4ax.com...
Can I shout across the internet in capital letters a repeated request?
HAS THE
HARD DRIVE BEEN TESTED WITH MANUFACTURER'S DIAGNOSTICS AND SHOWN TO BE
ERROR-FREE? This MUST be done first to have confidence that the hardware
is
fucntioning properly, or we all might as well go tilting at windmills. I
hope
I have made myself clear! Until the hardware is 100% error free,
faultlog.txt
or any other Microsoft diagnostic tool is not worth a ***... Ben Myers
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:24:58 GMT, "Muddle" <bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:sfhuk2paa6h43sr0iadc2krasut54v76pf@4ax.com...
Rule number one of computer problem diagnosis: Make absolutely sure
that
the
HARDWARE is 100% A-OK before looking for software problems. Examining
faultlog.txt puts the cart before the horse... Ben Myers
Sorry Ben, however in recent posts even a reinstall was suggested.
Faultlog.txt also logs hardware and driver faults and conflicts
OE 0028:0000000D and OD C670:206f0a7f
and OE 0028:C003Ic7a in VXD called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD tells me
nothing. What VXD, what application caused the fault etc.
You need, Tapisrv has caused an Invalid Page Fault in module
Kernel32.dll
or it's equivilent to diagnose such problems. There are hundreds of
VXD's
on my computer, without knowing which one and which application cased the
error your wandering in the dark.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:45 GMT, "Muddle"
bernie.simmons@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
It would be best if you posted the entire faultlog.txt.
If you have tweakui installed on the Paranoia tab check the box next
to
"Log
application errors to FAULTLOG.TXT. If you don't have it installed,
install
it. After you get a number of errors logged open the file and copy
and
post
the entire contents of the text file here. You'll find faultog.txt in
your
Windows folder after you turn it on. It's difficult to find
information
on
these errors given the info you provided.
The version TweakUI 1.2 included on the Windows 98 SE CD, in the
\tools\reskit\powertoy\ folder is fine for this even though there are
newer
versions. After installing it go to the control panel and you'll see
a
new
icon labeled TweakUI.
"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:dectk2d3flt5urtml6ibt64097t3kcb26d@4ax.com...
Well, Memtest says the memory is just fine. What about the hard
drive?
Maybe
it's feeling a little ill? Run diagnostics to find out. If the
hard
drive is
just fine, maybe its time to reload Windows, because the problem
could
simply be
scr**ed up software, so scr**ed up you can't fix it... Ben Myers
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:15:10 -0500, Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Ben Myers wrote:
The first thing to do is to figure out whether the hardware is
failing or the
software is all hosed up. Start with the hardware. Download
and
run
MEMTEST-86, the bestest free memory diagnostic software. If it
shows
some sort
of errors, the hardware is at fault. Likewise, determine the
make
and
model of
hard drive and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostic test. If
any
hardware
is failing, you have your answer for the BSODs, and it is
probably
time
to
replace the computer or maybe only some of the hardware, if you
can
get
replacement hardware for real cheap.
If the memory and hard drive test out OK, it is a pretty good bet
that
the
software is messed up by a virus, some malware, spyware or some
other
bad
software. What version of Windows are you running? Does the
computer start
up and run OK in safe mode?
If the BSODs do not show any consistent pattern and they are
mostly
different
from one another, I'd bet on a hardware failure... Ben Myers
OK running 98 SE
Just replaced the Flop optical drive with a standard floppy
Did change it from flop optical to floppy in the settings.
Also did an update from GW for my computer
As far as when it started acting up I am not sure. It more or less
just
started with the blue screen and got worse!
I have run memtest-86 now for the last 8 and 1/2 hours and have
the
following:
Pent II 333 Mhz
L1 Cache: 32 3266MB/s
L2 Cache:512 452MB/s
Memory: 256M 228MB/s
Chipset: Intel I440 [le]x
Wall Time Cached RsvdMen MemMap Cache ECC Test Pass Errors ECC
Errs
_________________________________________________________________________
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8:40 256M 160K e820-std on off std 9 0
Even took and blew the dust out of it just in case and checked the
cards
to insure they were in tight.
I keep getting the same things on the Blue Screen 0028:0000000D
and
when it does it the second time I get 0028:C003107A
I also did the Msconfig thing and even the advance portion
eliminating
all with no change. sure has me confuse! But as I said before it
seems
to be running low on memory like something is running in the
background
or something. Maybe it is time to pull the gun and shoot it?
(grin)
it has lasted 8 years so far hate to see it go even if it is slow.
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | Okay. Now you know that the hardware is in a reasonably good operational
state.
The next steps:
1. Boot computer in safe mode for all.
2. Download and run CCleaner (Crap Cleaner). Have CCleaner remove all the junk
from the registry. Then have it clean up all the files it can. It does a
better and more complete job than Windows' own Disk Cleanup.
3. Download and run EZCLeaner by Toni Arts. Same deal. Have it clean up the
registry, then remove all the useless files.
4. Reboot normally and see what happens.
Why do this? Because the registry is a weakly implemented and poorly designed
data base at the heart of Windows. The registry often gets messed up and has
been known to cause BSODs and other fun adventures. Likewise, very few Windows
programs are very good about cleaning up after themselves. Think of Crap
Cleaner as a pooper scooper for software that defecates files all over a
computer. The programmers are all like little children or pet animals that
need constant cleaning up after. The most offensive programs in this regard
are "published" by guess who? Well, Micro$oft, of course. A marketing
organization masquerading as software engineers... Ben Myers
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Hi Ben
Well I did as you said but still have the same Blue Screen on boot up.
But it does boot up faster to the Blue Screen. Thanks for the
recommended programs as they do a great job from what I saw, I did not
know how much "junk" was still on the drive. Will save those programs
for preventative measures in the future. Guess I will have to do the
delete disk and start again from scratch. Not bad though as I use a
laptop for my primary and use the GW to keep from tying up the Laptop
when I need to let a program run etc.
Again thanks for you assistance, any other good tips are always welcome
as I did learn a lot over the years from you and others on the group who
are always there to help. Think I might just start looking at a new
desktop and see what is available. This old G6 333Mhz sure lasted a
long time and did its job well.
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| Quote: | Hi Ben
Well I did as you said but still have the same Blue Screen on boot up.
But it does boot up faster to the Blue Screen. Thanks for the
recommended programs as they do a great job from what I saw, I did not
know how much "junk" was still on the drive. Will save those programs
for preventative measures in the future. Guess I will have to do the
delete disk and start again from scratch. Not bad though as I use a
laptop for my primary and use the GW to keep from tying up the Laptop
when I need to let a program run etc.
Again thanks for you assistance, any other good tips are always welcome
as I did learn a lot over the years from you and others on the group who
are always there to help. Think I might just start looking at a new
desktop and see what is available. This old G6 333Mhz sure lasted a
long time and did its job well.
L e e (in Florida)
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| Quote: | If you had a blue screen you should have an entry in the faultlog. Copy and
post them here.
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Hmm is there some difference in the different versions? I downloaded
the latest version of Tweakui v1.33 I think and it is installed and I
opened it in the control panel and checked the block for faultlog.txt
and started up the computer and did have blue screens and then did a
find "faultlog.txt" with negative results! Since I am no expert I don't
know if it is operating correctly is there anyway to test it?
Again thanks for trying to help
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