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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Dylan C wrote:
Quote:
With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next
card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

In article <12hguhq61kl0ndd@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...
Quote:
Dylan C wrote:
With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next
card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C


You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
Quote:
In article <12hguhq61kl0ndd@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...

Dylan C wrote:

With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next
card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C



You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

Bill
Newegg.com....

7 cards under $50 and 22 between $50 and $75. Looks like all 7300LE and
GS models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+106790717&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=

-Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Dylan C wrote:
Quote:
Bill wrote:
In article <12hguhq61kl0ndd@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...

Dylan C wrote:

With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next
card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C



You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

Bill
Newegg.com....
7 cards under $50 and 22 between $50 and $75. Looks like all 7300LE and
GS models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+106790717&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=

-Dylan C

Your not going to be happy with the performance of a $75 AGP card.
Spend a bit more and get at least a 6600GT (Haven't checked in a while
but I'm guessing you can get one for little more than $100). You
didn't say what you intend to do with the card (gaming, basic web
browsing, etc), so I really can't say how much card you need. Today, I
can't see buying less than a 6800GS/GT or a 7600 series card if you are
going to do any DX9 gaming at all.
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Zadok
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:48:06 -0500, Dylan C <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

Quote:
With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

Did you mention what CPU and ram you have? These factors weigh in
also.

-- Zadok
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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Zadok wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:48:06 -0500, Dylan C <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:


With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C


Did you mention what CPU and ram you have? These factors weigh in
also.

-- Zadok

I have an X2 3800+ running at 2.4 GHz and currently 512Mb of RAM. I
plan on adding an additional 1Gb of memory before upgrading the video.

-Dylan C
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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

cosmo_kramer1@rocketmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Dylan C wrote:

Bill wrote:

In article <12hguhq61kl0ndd@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...


Dylan C wrote:


With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in this
series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an FX5200 for
a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it performed compared
to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly surprised when I buy my next
card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C

I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C



You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

Bill

Newegg.com....
7 cards under $50 and 22 between $50 and $75. Looks like all 7300LE and
GS models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+106790717&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=

-Dylan C


Your not going to be happy with the performance of a $75 AGP card.
Spend a bit more and get at least a 6600GT (Haven't checked in a while
but I'm guessing you can get one for little more than $100). You
didn't say what you intend to do with the card (gaming, basic web
browsing, etc), so I really can't say how much card you need. Today, I
can't see buying less than a 6800GS/GT or a 7600 series card if you are
going to do any DX9 gaming at all.


Currently, I'm perfectly happy with my Ti200 worth about $10-$20 on
ebay. I'd like something comparable in performance only with DX9
capabilities because Windows Vista requires it for Aero. Gaming is
really not a deciding factor, the machine is basically a desktop rig.

-Dylan C
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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Dylan C wrote:
Quote:
Bill wrote:

In article <12hguhq61kl0ndd@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...

Dylan C wrote:

With Windows Vista on the horizon I'm looking at upgrading to a DX9
video card. Right now I use a GeForce3 Ti200 and I am thinking of
putting in a GeForce 6xxx. I'd like some input on which cards in
this series are decent performers. A few months ago I purchased an
FX5200 for a second machine and was surprised at how poorly it
performed compared to my Ti200. I'd rather not be similarly
surprised when I buy my next card.

Thanks for the input.

-Dylan C


I'd like to keep the price under $75, meaning that some nVidia 7000
series cards are in the budget. Any feedback on these?

-Dylan C



You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

Bill

Newegg.com....
7 cards under $50 and 22 between $50 and $75. Looks like all 7300LE and
GS models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+106790717&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=


-Dylan C
Nevermind...all PCIe....


-Dylan C
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Bill
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

In article <12hicrm88hvr803@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...
<snip>
Quote:

You've seen Nvidia 7XXX AGP cards for under $75.00? Where?

Bill

Newegg.com....
7 cards under $50 and 22 between $50 and $75. Looks like all 7300LE and
GS models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+106790717&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=


-Dylan C
Nevermind...all PCIe....

-Dylan C


Yes, that is what I saw before I asked the question. I thought maybe
you had seen another source somewhere. That puts you down into the 6xxx
realm for under $75.00 or raising your budget.

Bill
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

In article <12hicg66cuh2g4f@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...
Quote:

snip

Currently, I'm perfectly happy with my Ti200 worth about $10-$20 on
ebay. I'd like something comparable in performance only with DX9
capabilities because Windows Vista requires it for Aero. Gaming is
really not a deciding factor, the machine is basically a desktop rig.

-Dylan C


I've been trying out Vista since it became a public download.
Presently testing RC1. Shiny is nice to look at for awhile, but it
incurred enough of a performnace hit that I eventually turned off Aero.

And DX10 is causing enough problems with older games < UT4, COD, COD2,
Quake Arena > that it's going to be a long time until I actually
purchase Vista if they don't get the bugs worked out.

My rig: AMD 64 X2 4600 oc to 2.6 GHz, 2GB mem, Nvida 7900 GT, a 1.5
TB+ of hard drive storage. I figure DX10 and any games that require it
are a ways off.

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
Quote:
In article <12hicg66cuh2g4f@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...

snip

Currently, I'm perfectly happy with my Ti200 worth about $10-$20 on
ebay. I'd like something comparable in performance only with DX9
capabilities because Windows Vista requires it for Aero. Gaming is
really not a deciding factor, the machine is basically a desktop rig.

-Dylan C



I've been trying out Vista since it became a public download.
Presently testing RC1. Shiny is nice to look at for awhile, but it
incurred enough of a performnace hit that I eventually turned off Aero.

And DX10 is causing enough problems with older games < UT4, COD, COD2,
Quake Arena > that it's going to be a long time until I actually
purchase Vista if they don't get the bugs worked out.

My rig: AMD 64 X2 4600 oc to 2.6 GHz, 2GB mem, Nvida 7900 GT, a 1.5
TB+ of hard drive storage. I figure DX10 and any games that require it
are a ways off.

Bill
Thats a pretty robust system to be bogged down by the OS's UI. Does it

offer any significant functional improvements? If not, a Vista upgrade
might be postponed indefinitely and an AGP upgrade is unnecessary.

-Dylan C
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Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

In article <12hj4cgp6tkjj7f@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...
Quote:

snip
Thats a pretty robust system to be bogged down by the OS's UI.

Not exactly bogged, smile but you can definetly tell it's slower when
Aero is turned on.


Quote:
Does it
offer any significant functional improvements? If not, a Vista upgrade
might be postponed indefinitely and an AGP upgrade is unnecessary.

None that I've seen so far except for the increased security. Nag
messages pop up when you try to do something that requires
administrator priveleges. MS took out all the big improvements like the
new filesystem so they could get it out the door before the end of the
century.

You can download RC1 from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx

Look towards the bottom third of the page for download instructions.

You can see if there is anything there you might want to fork out
hundreds of dollars for < $499 for the Ultimate version I hear >.

It should run on your system system; it just won't load Aero. You can
check it yourself for functionality. Load it onto it's own partition as
a dual boot, don't upgrade your present system. there's no going back
without reformatting and doing a new reload of XP if you go the upgrade
path.

Quote:

-Dylan C



Bill
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Dylan C
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: AGP upgrade Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
Quote:
In article <12hj4cgp6tkjj7f@corp.supernews.com>, nospam@nospam.com
says...

snip

Thats a pretty robust system to be bogged down by the OS's UI.


Not exactly bogged, smile but you can definetly tell it's slower when
Aero is turned on.



Does it
offer any significant functional improvements? If not, a Vista upgrade
might be postponed indefinitely and an AGP upgrade is unnecessary.


None that I've seen so far except for the increased security. Nag
messages pop up when you try to do something that requires
administrator priveleges. MS took out all the big improvements like the
new filesystem so they could get it out the door before the end of the
century.

You can download RC1 from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx

Look towards the bottom third of the page for download instructions.

You can see if there is anything there you might want to fork out
hundreds of dollars for < $499 for the Ultimate version I hear >.

It should run on your system system; it just won't load Aero. You can
check it yourself for functionality. Load it onto it's own partition as
a dual boot, don't upgrade your present system. there's no going back
without reformatting and doing a new reload of XP if you go the upgrade
path.


-Dylan C




Bill
I've already got both the 64 and 32 bit ISOs with legit key, and I'm

comfortable with dual boot systems, but I'd rather not go through the
hassle of installation and running 2 OS's if there is no tangible
benefit to Vista at this point. THanks for the insight.

-Dylan C
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