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 Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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The last three computers I have assembled, or put back together have
all shown up with WGA errors.
Since it is almost impossible to secure recover disks with all the
advertising, I have been using several Windows CDs to install the
product listed on the COA with legitimate codes. Now installing with
the COA, I am getting Windows Counterfeit messages doing the updates
because I am using the same disk.
I was able to find a HP recover disk for one of the computers I
assembled from several different computers, not the originals but the
correct ones for that specific model. I have two computers (one
Gateway e-4000) that I cannot give to the school for their
disadvantaged students because of the WGA errors.
In talking to MS, the support person indicated it is the MS policy that
the original disks must be used and not one disk for many computer
systems. Since I almost never get the recovery disks, with the broken
or destroyed computers I rebuild, or piece together, nor do I have a
benefactor that will pay for recovery disks/a new copy of windows I
have a problem.
Is there a location on the net where someone or a group has stored
recovery disks that manufactures no longer have or will ship, so that
they can be secure, when trying to rebuild the computers?
I understand that (WGA) is to prevent Operating System Piracy, but this
is too much and a very recent development.
Maybe it is time for me to choose another endeavor...
Yes, I know there are a number of work arounds for the current and past
versions of (WGA).
JR the Postman
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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One more thing: Except for illegal web sites run by and for hackers and
crackers, you won't find any system restore CDs out here on the web.
Contractually, Microsoft prohibits their OEMs from making CDs available, and
would have any OEM posting a restore CD on the net in court real fast.
Some system restore CDs are Windows install CDs, plain and simple, and they
generally require drivers, either from another CD shipped with the computer or
downloaded from the web. Others use another process (restoring a Ghost image,
for example) to restore the CD to its factory state... Ben Myers
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:24:02 -0700, Postman delivers
<JR_the_Postman@xyzahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The last three computers I have assembled, or put back together have
all shown up with WGA errors.
Since it is almost impossible to secure recover disks with all the
advertising, I have been using several Windows CDs to install the
product listed on the COA with legitimate codes. Now installing with
the COA, I am getting Windows Counterfeit messages doing the updates
because I am using the same disk.
I was able to find a HP recover disk for one of the computers I
assembled from several different computers, not the originals but the
correct ones for that specific model. I have two computers (one
Gateway e-4000) that I cannot give to the school for their
disadvantaged students because of the WGA errors.
In talking to MS, the support person indicated it is the MS policy that
the original disks must be used and not one disk for many computer
systems. Since I almost never get the recovery disks, with the broken
or destroyed computers I rebuild, or piece together, nor do I have a
benefactor that will pay for recovery disks/a new copy of windows I
have a problem.
Is there a location on the net where someone or a group has stored
recovery disks that manufactures no longer have or will ship, so that
they can be secure, when trying to rebuild the computers?
I understand that (WGA) is to prevent Operating System Piracy, but this
is too much and a very recent development.
Maybe it is time for me to choose another endeavor...
Yes, I know there are a number of work arounds for the current and past
versions of (WGA).
JR the Postman |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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It is perfectly legal to buy a new system nowadays and create restore CDs from
the "recovery" partition to be used if the hard drive croaks, yet these CDs do
not have the genuine Microsoft hologram that marks an original, which is all
Microsoft claims you can use. Go figure.
As best as I can tell, Microsoft has several different algorithms for validating
the COA, and these vary with the type of CD. Just for XP Home, there are
"upgrade", OEM, non-upgrade (install from scratch), and corporate versions. Same
with XP Pro and XP Media Center Edition. The upgrade version requires that you
have an older Windows CD, 98, ME, or 2000, IIRC. You have to use an
installation CD that matches the type of COA with the system, or the software is
labelled counterfeit. If the COA has already been tracked and entered into the
Microsoft data base, it can be deemed counterfeit, and you have to call them on
the phone and request a Gatesian (not papal) dispensation, explaining what
happened, e.g. hard drive replacement, motherboard replacement, reinstall due to
virus infestation, etc. You will also be given a new COA to enter into the
system by the person in India (usually) on the other end of the phone line.
There are arguments in other usenet groups as to whether an OEM CD from one
brand name can be used with another brand's OEM COA sticker. For example, can
a Dell OEM "recovery" CD (it's actually a full standard Windows XP install) be
used with a Gateway and not end up with the counterfeit message.
Summary: Microsoft does not make XP easy for anyone to administer, all in the
name of tracking down all those dastardly software pirates.
Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu Linux? No
license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to harrass you. Relatively easy
installation process with fewer reboots than a Windows XP
install-and-update-all-the-patches. Currently there is equivalent software for
Office (except Access), Photoshop, various media players, and all manner of
other stuff. All included on the distribution CDs. You can download for free
and burn your own CDs. There are other comparable variations of Linux, too...
Ben Myers
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:24:02 -0700, Postman delivers
<JR_the_Postman@xyzahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The last three computers I have assembled, or put back together have
all shown up with WGA errors.
Since it is almost impossible to secure recover disks with all the
advertising, I have been using several Windows CDs to install the
product listed on the COA with legitimate codes. Now installing with
the COA, I am getting Windows Counterfeit messages doing the updates
because I am using the same disk.
I was able to find a HP recover disk for one of the computers I
assembled from several different computers, not the originals but the
correct ones for that specific model. I have two computers (one
Gateway e-4000) that I cannot give to the school for their
disadvantaged students because of the WGA errors.
In talking to MS, the support person indicated it is the MS policy that
the original disks must be used and not one disk for many computer
systems. Since I almost never get the recovery disks, with the broken
or destroyed computers I rebuild, or piece together, nor do I have a
benefactor that will pay for recovery disks/a new copy of windows I
have a problem.
Is there a location on the net where someone or a group has stored
recovery disks that manufactures no longer have or will ship, so that
they can be secure, when trying to rebuild the computers?
I understand that (WGA) is to prevent Operating System Piracy, but this
is too much and a very recent development.
Maybe it is time for me to choose another endeavor...
Yes, I know there are a number of work arounds for the current and past
versions of (WGA).
JR the Postman |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Finally, just for fun (or possibly more aggravation), call Gateway and ask if
they will sell you recovery/restore CDs. Give them the computer serial number,
which is entirely legit.
FWIW, Dell and HPaq sell their recovery CDs... Ben Myers
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:24:02 -0700, Postman delivers
<JR_the_Postman@xyzahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The last three computers I have assembled, or put back together have
all shown up with WGA errors.
Since it is almost impossible to secure recover disks with all the
advertising, I have been using several Windows CDs to install the
product listed on the COA with legitimate codes. Now installing with
the COA, I am getting Windows Counterfeit messages doing the updates
because I am using the same disk.
I was able to find a HP recover disk for one of the computers I
assembled from several different computers, not the originals but the
correct ones for that specific model. I have two computers (one
Gateway e-4000) that I cannot give to the school for their
disadvantaged students because of the WGA errors.
In talking to MS, the support person indicated it is the MS policy that
the original disks must be used and not one disk for many computer
systems. Since I almost never get the recovery disks, with the broken
or destroyed computers I rebuild, or piece together, nor do I have a
benefactor that will pay for recovery disks/a new copy of windows I
have a problem.
Is there a location on the net where someone or a group has stored
recovery disks that manufactures no longer have or will ship, so that
they can be secure, when trying to rebuild the computers?
I understand that (WGA) is to prevent Operating System Piracy, but this
is too much and a very recent development.
Maybe it is time for me to choose another endeavor...
Yes, I know there are a number of work arounds for the current and past
versions of (WGA).
JR the Postman |
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BillW50
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Ben Myers wrote:
[snip]
| Quote: | Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu
Linux? No license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to
harrass you. Relatively easy installation process with fewer reboots
than a Windows XP install-and-update-all-the-patches. Currently
there is equivalent software for Office (except Access), Photoshop,
various media players, and all manner of other stuff. All included
on the distribution CDs. You can download for free and burn your
own CDs. There are other comparable variations of Linux, too... Ben
Myers
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When will people realize that the commercial world doesn't support
Linux! I first heard of Linux back around '95 and today I still won't
touch it. As everything I buy, from flight simulators, VoIP, cameras, IM
software, etc. only come with Windows software and rarely with Mac
crippled versions. There are no Linux versions for any of this stuff.
Why the hell would someone want to run Linux for? Why would you want to
dumb your computer down to a glorified PDA for? I just don't get it?
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BillW50
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | One more thing: Except for illegal web sites run by and for hackers
and crackers, you won't find any system restore CDs out here on the
web. Contractually, Microsoft prohibits their OEMs from making CDs
available, and would have any OEM posting a restore CD on the net in
court real fast.
Some system restore CDs are Windows install CDs, plain and simple,
and they generally require drivers, either from another CD shipped
with the computer or downloaded from the web. Others use another
process (restoring a Ghost image, for example) to restore the CD to
its factory state... Ben Myers
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Nonsense you can find hard to find recovery disc at places like:
http://www.gennersales.co.uk/
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Tweek
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_spam_me_not@charter.net> wrote in message
news:akcgh21uakgdd3bdicb3q0fdmkued01ese@4ax.com...
| Quote: | It is perfectly legal to buy a new system nowadays and create restore CDs
from
the "recovery" partition to be used if the hard drive croaks, yet these
CDs do
not have the genuine Microsoft hologram that marks an original, which is
all
Microsoft claims you can use. Go figure.
As best as I can tell, Microsoft has several different algorithms for
validating
the COA, and these vary with the type of CD. Just for XP Home, there are
"upgrade", OEM, non-upgrade (install from scratch), and corporate
versions. Same
with XP Pro and XP Media Center Edition. The upgrade version requires
that you
have an older Windows CD, 98, ME, or 2000, IIRC. You have to use an
installation CD that matches the type of COA with the system, or the
software is
labelled counterfeit. If the COA has already been tracked and entered
into the
Microsoft data base, it can be deemed counterfeit, and you have to call
them on
the phone and request a Gatesian (not papal) dispensation, explaining what
happened, e.g. hard drive replacement, motherboard replacement, reinstall
due to
virus infestation, etc. You will also be given a new COA to enter into
the
system by the person in India (usually) on the other end of the phone
line.
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What is happening is the COA keys on most brand name computers are not
activateable (is that a word?) The OEM copy of windows XP whether it is a
standalone CD or a set of recovery cd's is tied to the bios and doesn't need
to be activated. If you were to use a key finder on several different
machines of the same model, they would have the same key (which also cannot
be activated). I think what was happening is people knew that the OEM key
hadn't been used and repair shops were using those keys to install pirated
copies of windows. I don't know when they started this but if you use an OEM
XP cd with the COA on a brand name computer, it will accept it during
install but you most likely won't be able to activate it. One exception I
have found is emachines. Occasionally I will have to replace a bad board
with a similar aftermarket board. As soon as it boots to windows it says it
must be activated. The first time it will reject it because of the common
key that is embedded in the restore cd's. So far the key on the COA
activates every time.
| Quote: |
There are arguments in other usenet groups as to whether an OEM CD from
one
brand name can be used with another brand's OEM COA sticker. For
example, can
a Dell OEM "recovery" CD (it's actually a full standard Windows XP
install) be
used with a Gateway and not end up with the counterfeit message.
Summary: Microsoft does not make XP easy for anyone to administer, all in
the
name of tracking down all those dastardly software pirates.
Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu Linux?
No
license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to harrass you.
Relatively easy
installation process with fewer reboots than a Windows XP
install-and-update-all-the-patches. Currently there is equivalent
software for
Office (except Access), Photoshop, various media players, and all manner
of
other stuff. All included on the distribution CDs. You can download
for free
and burn your own CDs. There are other comparable variations of Linux,
too...
Ben Myers
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:24:02 -0700, Postman delivers
JR_the_Postman@xyzahoo.com> wrote:
The last three computers I have assembled, or put back together have
all shown up with WGA errors.
Since it is almost impossible to secure recover disks with all the
advertising, I have been using several Windows CDs to install the
product listed on the COA with legitimate codes. Now installing with
the COA, I am getting Windows Counterfeit messages doing the updates
because I am using the same disk.
I was able to find a HP recover disk for one of the computers I
assembled from several different computers, not the originals but the
correct ones for that specific model. I have two computers (one
Gateway e-4000) that I cannot give to the school for their
disadvantaged students because of the WGA errors.
In talking to MS, the support person indicated it is the MS policy that
the original disks must be used and not one disk for many computer
systems. Since I almost never get the recovery disks, with the broken
or destroyed computers I rebuild, or piece together, nor do I have a
benefactor that will pay for recovery disks/a new copy of windows I
have a problem.
Is there a location on the net where someone or a group has stored
recovery disks that manufactures no longer have or will ship, so that
they can be secure, when trying to rebuild the computers?
I understand that (WGA) is to prevent Operating System Piracy, but this
is too much and a very recent development.
Maybe it is time for me to choose another endeavor...
Yes, I know there are a number of work arounds for the current and past
versions of (WGA).
JR the Postman |
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Kevin Childers
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
news:45195216$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
| Quote: | Ben Myers wrote:
[snip]
Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu
Linux? No license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to
harrass you. Relatively easy installation process with fewer reboots
than a Windows XP install-and-update-all-the-patches. Currently
there is equivalent software for Office (except Access), Photoshop,
various media players, and all manner of other stuff. All included
on the distribution CDs. You can download for free and burn your
own CDs. There are other comparable variations of Linux, too... Ben
Myers
When will people realize that the commercial world doesn't support Linux!
I first heard of Linux back around '95 and today I still won't touch it.
As everything I buy, from flight simulators, VoIP, cameras, IM software,
etc. only come with Windows software and rarely with Mac crippled
versions. There are no Linux versions for any of this stuff. Why the hell
would someone want to run Linux for? Why would you want to dumb your
computer down to a glorified PDA for? I just don't get it?
--
Bill
I think you should take another look around at this issue. There are |
numerous alternatives to the MS series of offerings as well as quite a few
windows based apps being ported over to other O/Ss. Some of the biggest
pushes to this have been the licensing system used by MS as well as cost and
support. Google a bit on the web and you can find an alternative to MS for
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Tried an up-to-date Linux distro lately? ... Ben
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:08:11 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
| Quote: | Ben Myers wrote:
[snip]
Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu
Linux? No license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to
harrass you. Relatively easy installation process with fewer reboots
than a Windows XP install-and-update-all-the-patches. Currently
there is equivalent software for Office (except Access), Photoshop,
various media players, and all manner of other stuff. All included
on the distribution CDs. You can download for free and burn your
own CDs. There are other comparable variations of Linux, too... Ben
Myers
When will people realize that the commercial world doesn't support
Linux! I first heard of Linux back around '95 and today I still won't
touch it. As everything I buy, from flight simulators, VoIP, cameras, IM
software, etc. only come with Windows software and rarely with Mac
crippled versions. There are no Linux versions for any of this stuff.
Why the hell would someone want to run Linux for? Why would you want to
dumb your computer down to a glorified PDA for? I just don't get it? |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Thnak you for the reminder that the EU and the US are different places. All
they have in common is one letter in the abbreviation. Microsoft has been
forced to do business VERY differently in the EU, where there is still
governmental concern for the rights of individuals compared to megacorporations.
It does not surprise me that recovery CDs would be available in Europe.
Because the US government is extremely friendly to businesses, to put it mildly,
Microsoft twists everyone's testes here. Or ***. Whichever. And recovery
CDs are not available in the general marketplace except from the name brand
manufacturer, provided one whines loudly enough.
What I stated was US-centric, because I have been back here for the last 22
years.
I would not mind if someone proved me wrong by posting the URL of a
US(!!!)-based web site that sells XP recovery CDs legally at a price much less
than a full-fledged store copy of XPee. I would be up near the front of the
line, to fill out the collection I already have... Ben Myers
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:18:28 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
| Quote: | Ben Myers wrote:
One more thing: Except for illegal web sites run by and for hackers
and crackers, you won't find any system restore CDs out here on the
web. Contractually, Microsoft prohibits their OEMs from making CDs
available, and would have any OEM posting a restore CD on the net in
court real fast.
Some system restore CDs are Windows install CDs, plain and simple,
and they generally require drivers, either from another CD shipped
with the computer or downloaded from the web. Others use another
process (restoring a Ghost image, for example) to restore the CD to
its factory state... Ben Myers
Nonsense you can find hard to find recovery disc at places like:
http://www.gennersales.co.uk/ |
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BillW50
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:18:28 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
Ben Myers wrote:
One more thing: Except for illegal web sites run by and for hackers
and crackers, you won't find any system restore CDs out here on the
web. Contractually, Microsoft prohibits their OEMs from making CDs
available, and would have any OEM posting a restore CD on the net in
court real fast.
Some system restore CDs are Windows install CDs, plain and simple,
and they generally require drivers, either from another CD shipped
with the computer or downloaded from the web. Others use another
process (restoring a Ghost image, for example) to restore the CD to
its factory state... Ben Myers
Nonsense you can find hard to find recovery disc at places like:
http://www.gennersales.co.uk/
Thnak you for the reminder that the EU and the US are different
places. All they have in common is one letter in the abbreviation.
Microsoft has been forced to do business VERY differently in the EU,
where there is still governmental concern for the rights of
individuals compared to megacorporations. It does not surprise me
that recovery CDs would be available in Europe.
Because the US government is extremely friendly to businesses, to put
it mildly, Microsoft twists everyone's testes here. Or ***.
Whichever. And recovery CDs are not available in the general
marketplace except from the name brand manufacturer, provided one
whines loudly enough.
What I stated was US-centric, because I have been back here for the
last 22 years.
I would not mind if someone proved me wrong by posting the URL of a
US(!!!)-based web site that sells XP recovery CDs legally at a price
much less than a full-fledged store copy of XPee. I would be up near
the front of the line, to fill out the collection I already have...
Ben Myers
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Well they do sell to the US as well Ben. And here in the US, there was a
place that specialized in Toshiba (non-officially). And they sold
recovery discs too. I guess they don't do this anymore at:
http://www.usedtoshiba.com/
How this UK outfit and those in the US that does this I believe works
like this. You, I, or whomever can legally sell, give, or whatever
Windows OS and/or recovery install disc to anybody with a valid Windows
license to whomever we want too. What is forbidden is to copy licenses
and Product Key Codes. But in the last 7 years or so, the computer
should have the sticker on it with the license and Product Key Code on
them anyway.
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Ben Myers
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:52:24 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
<SNIP>
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Well they do sell to the US as well Ben. And here in the US, there was a
place that specialized in Toshiba (non-officially). And they sold
recovery discs too. I guess they don't do this anymore at:
http://www.usedtoshiba.com/
How this UK outfit and those in the US that does this I believe works
like this. You, I, or whomever can legally sell, give, or whatever
Windows OS and/or recovery install disc to anybody with a valid Windows
license to whomever we want too. What is forbidden is to copy licenses
and Product Key Codes. But in the last 7 years or so, the computer
should have the sticker on it with the license and Product Key Code on
them anyway.
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This is my understanding, too. If the computer has a COA sticker, it can have a
matching version of Windows loaded up on it. The issues often come about
because Microsoft has different COA Product Key Codes for essentially identical
software. For example, there are upgrade/retail, non-upgrade/retail, and OEM
versions of XP Home. One MUST use a CD that matches the version, or else after
manually entering the code, Windows says that the code is not valid. (Then
there is the whole mess of WGA, yet another obstacle.) There has been a lot of
discussion on-line elsewhere as to whether or not an OEM restore CD from one
name brand mfr can be used to restore onto another brand of computer. A lot of
mixed opinions, and nobody has the time to do a methodical and detailed
analysis... Ben Myers |
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BillW50
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Kevin Childers wrote:
| Quote: | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
news:45195216$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
Ben Myers wrote:
[snip]
Have you considered loading up systems with something like Ubuntu
Linux? No license fee. No COA. Nobody and no software to
harrass you. Relatively easy installation process with fewer
reboots than a Windows XP install-and-update-all-the-patches.
Currently there is equivalent software for Office (except Access),
Photoshop, various media players, and all manner of other stuff.
All included on the distribution CDs. You can download for free
and burn your own CDs. There are other comparable variations of
Linux, too... Ben Myers
When will people realize that the commercial world doesn't support
Linux! I first heard of Linux back around '95 and today I still
won't touch it. As everything I buy, from flight simulators, VoIP,
cameras, IM software, etc. only come with Windows software and
rarely with Mac crippled versions. There are no Linux versions for
any of this stuff. Why the hell would someone want to run Linux for?
Why would you want to dumb your computer down to a glorified PDA
for? I just don't get it? --
Bill
I think you should take another look around at this issue. There
are numerous alternatives to the MS series of offerings as well as
quite a few windows based apps being ported over to other O/Ss. Some
of the biggest pushes to this have been the licensing system used by
MS as well as cost and support. Google a bit on the web and you can
find an alternative to MS for just about any app with a very similar
interface.
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Well having lots of applications for an OS was good enough years ago.
But things are different today. Now you need driver support and things
that I have already mentioned. And plain applications just won't cut it
anymore for me anyway. I need all of my devices connected to my computer
to work too. Neither a Mac or Linux can do that for me. Thus the only
choice for me is Windows. And if the third party manufactures continue
to support just Windows, things are not going to change for me.
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BillW50
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Recovery disk Library Location? |
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:52:24 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
SNIP
Well they do sell to the US as well Ben. And here in the US, there
was a place that specialized in Toshiba (non-officially). And they
sold recovery discs too. I guess they don't do this anymore at:
http://www.usedtoshiba.com/
How this UK outfit and those in the US that does this I believe works
like this. You, I, or whomever can legally sell, give, or whatever
Windows OS and/or recovery install disc to anybody with a valid
Windows license to whomever we want too. What is forbidden is to
copy licenses and Product Key Codes. But in the last 7 years or so,
the computer should have the sticker on it with the license and
Product Key Code on them anyway.
This is my understanding, too. If the computer has a COA sticker, it
can have a matching version of Windows loaded up on it. The issues
often come about because Microsoft has different COA Product Key
Codes for essentially identical software. For example, there are
upgrade/retail, non-upgrade/retail, and OEM versions of XP Home. One
MUST use a CD that matches the version, or else after manually
entering the code, Windows says that the code is not valid...
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Oh yeah... I forgot about that. Someone asked me to help them restore
their Windows 98SE after something hosed their OS on the HD. And when I
got there, Windows wouldn't load because many files were missing.
I said no problem, where is your Windows CD? They pulled out hundreds of
CD installs, but nothing for Windows 98. So I said wait a minute, I have
one in the car and installed it and put in their Key Code and it
wouldn't work! I don't mind Microsoft going after the crooks! But when
they screw with honest people I get really pissed! All this does is
cause honest people to purchase multiple licenses for the same ***
computer. :(
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BillW50 wrote:
| Quote: | ... I don't mind Microsoft going after the crooks! But
when they screw with honest people I get really pissed! All this does
is cause honest people to purchase multiple licenses for the same ***
computer. 
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I should have added that I have two computers right here with 2 licences
of XP for each of them because of this nonsense. Someone should take
Bill Gates and hang him by his...
And if you read the license agreement, all you need is a newer unused
license and then is good enough to install an older version of Windows
on the computer. Okay great, if I have a computer that I rather have
Windows 98SE on it. I can't purchase a license for Windows 98SE, but I
can legally purchase Windows XP and then borrow a Windows 98SE install
CD and I'm legal. Problem is the *** Product Key Code for Windows XP
doesn't work with Windows 98SE. So why do they tell me it is okay for?
And have me spend the money on something I can't use? Can you say
bastards?
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