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 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data. |
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Arno Wagner
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage mydejamail@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
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No.
| Quote: | I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.
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Depends. External USB goes through the SCSI driver and will work.
External SATA depends on the SATA controller and BIOS. Should
work however.
Arno |
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Dylan C
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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mydejamail@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.
buy a PCI controller card like the one linked below. Standard IDE |
versions are also available.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815102102
-Dylan C |
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MalcolmO
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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| Quote: | If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
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You can get an updated BIOS from here:
http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be
enabled in the registry. |
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Rod Speed
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows XP be able to work around
it?
You can get an updated BIOS from here:
http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
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Nope, that's 2K. XP needs SP1 or later. |
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Bird JanitorŪ
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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mydejamail@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
| I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some
| of the older motherboards have problems with large hard disks.
| The current disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for
| todays 320G.
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| If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will
| Windows XP be able to work around it?
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| I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be
| alright with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for
| programs and use the external disk for data.
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There's no need for an external USB disk or an add-on PCI card.
You need two things:
.. 48-bit LBA compatible BIOS
.. 48-bit LBA compatible OS/Drivers
BIOS :
The two most recent versions of the Abit BIOS support 48-bit LBA for disks
larger than 137GB (decimal) on the IDE1/IDE2 channels.
OS/Drivers :
Windows 2000 (SP3 or later) and Windows XP (SP1 or later) provide 48-bit LBA
support. There has been recent discussion on the Abit group (cross-posted
to the Windows 98 storage group), where the KT7_A9 BIOS and most recent VIA
IDE Miniport driver was used with a large disk under Windows 98SE.
If you have the KT7-RAID or KT7A-RAID board, you'll need a modded BIOS to
support large disks on the Highpoint controller (IDE3/IDE4).
I have modified the latest versions of the KT7 BIOS' to support 48-bit LBA
on the Highpoint controller. I removed the version 1.11.0402 Highpoint BIOS
and substituted the version 2.351 Highpoint BIOS. I made no other changes.
You can pick up my modded BIOS', as well as a link to the version 2.351
Highpoint drivers, at my personal web space :
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/jefn/kt7.html
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Arno Wagner
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Dylan C <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | mydejamail@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.
buy a PCI controller card like the one linked below. Standard IDE
versions are also available.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815102102
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Personally I have made good experiences with nin-RAID controllers
from Promise.
The controller BIOS on this type of controller gets around
the mainboard limitations by having its own BIOS extension
on board.
Arno |
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4n01coF82ra8U1@individual.net
| Quote: | MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows XP be able to work around
it?
You can get an updated BIOS from here:
http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
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Nonsense.
| Quote: | XP needs SP1 or later.
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So does W2k (need SP2, that is). |
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:4mvi7aF81lv7U4@individual.net
| Quote: | In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage mydejamail@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
No.
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Wrong.
The bios can be disabled to let the drive pass if the bios is limited to less than 137GB.
If limited to 137GB it is not a problem for the BIOS, it will just recognize 137GB.
The problem with BIOS is limited to DOS and drive partitioning from within Windows
(INT13) of which the latter may well be circumvented by disabling the BIOS and let
the driver supply 48-bit INT13.
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I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.
Depends. External USB goes through the SCSI driver and will work.
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So, what depends then.
| Quote: | External SATA depends on the SATA controller
and BIOS.
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Wrong again. It depends on the Windows SATA driver.
| Quote: | Should work however.
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So much for that "will Windows XP be able to work around it? No." then.
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Rod Speed
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote
| Quote: | Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote
If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this
size, will Windows XP be able to work around it?
You can get an updated BIOS from here:
http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit
LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
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Nope, you dont need to enable it in the registry with XP.
| Quote: | XP needs SP1 or later.
So does W2k (need SP2, that is).
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Wrong again. |
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MalcolmO
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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| Quote: | XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
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http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.
| Quote: | XP needs SP1 or later.
So does W2k (need SP2, that is).
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SP3, according to the same site. |
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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"MalcolmO" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message news:eepc6v$de1$1@emma.aioe.org
| Quote: | XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.
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Depends on how you read his original.
It was true for the original edition of XP so it would have been clearer
if he had said "Nope, that's 2K. XP SP1 or later doesn't need it".
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XP needs SP1 or later.
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If you don't want the hassle to get it working with the original edition.
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So does W2k (need SP2, that is).
SP3, according to the same site.
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Yes, so says Microsoft. My bad (read Q305098 too hastely) . |
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Rod Speed
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote
| Quote: | MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit
LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.
Depends on how you read his original.
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Nope.
| Quote: | It was true for the original edition of XP
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Nope.
| Quote: | so it would have been clearer if he had said
"Nope, that's 2K. XP SP1 or later doesn't need it".
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That would have been wrong. So I didnt say that.
| Quote: | XP needs SP1 or later.
If you don't want the hassle to get it working with the original edition.
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Go tell MS who knows better.
| Quote: | So does W2k (need SP2, that is).
SP3, according to the same site.
Yes, so says Microsoft. My bad (read Q305098 too hastely) .
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Pity it doesnt say what you claim about the original XP either. |
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Folkert Rienstra
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4nc0eqF9k0nfU1@individual.net
| Quote: | Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit
LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.
Depends on how you read his original.
Nope.
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Yup.
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It was true for the original edition of XP
Nope.
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Yup, Q303013.
Just as (half) true as your "Nope, that's 2K", with there being a 'proviso'.
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so it would have been clearer if he had said
"Nope, that's 2K. XP SP1 or later doesn't need it".
That would have been wrong. So I didnt say that.
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So was
"Nope, that's 2K" without mentioning the "proviso", which you have no problem with.
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XP needs SP1 or later.
If you don't want the hassle to get it working with the original edition.
Go tell MS who knows better.
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No need: Q303013. Last time I looked it came from MS themselves.
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So does W2k (need SP2, that is).
SP3, according to the same site.
Yes, so says Microsoft. My bad (read Q305098 too hastely) .
Pity it doesnt say what you claim about the original XP either.
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Yes, isn't that odd eh, Roddles, a 2K document not detailing the
problem that it doesn't know about in XP. Long night, Roddles? |
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Rod Speed
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: Re: I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk. |
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Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote
| Quote: | Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote
MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote
XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit
LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.
Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.
Depends on how you read his original.
Nope.
Yup.
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Nope.
| Quote: | It was true for the original edition of XP
Nope.
Yup, Q303013.
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Pity that clearly says
This article describes the Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 1 (SP1) 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA) support
Note Windows XP does not support 48-bit LBA support unless
you are running Windows XP SP1. If you want to use 48-bit LBA
support, you must apply Windows XP SP1 or later.
Try again, ***.
None of the rest of your desperate attempts to bullshit your
way out of your predicament worth bothering with, as always. |
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