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GuessWho
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 Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: CPU upgrade |
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I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo with a Athlon64 Venice core CPU.
According to my manual this board supports Athlon64 FX / Athlon64 CPUs. I'd
like to get x2 function because there are times when it would be nice to
have dual core functionality, but I'd rather not build a completely new
system.
According to this site:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=607&kind=1
this board will support Athlon64 x2 processors. I have never upgraded the
BIOS since I bought this board about a year ago and I know there is a newer
BIOS version. However, I've always been advised not to fool with the BIOS
unless I'm having a problem or the new BIOS has functionality that I don't
have but want.
Two questions:
1. If the link info is correct, do I need a BIOS upgrade to get x2 support?
2. If I can replace the CPU, will I need to do a Repair install of my XP Pro
after replacing the current CPU?
TIA,
Wayne |
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Bob Knowlden
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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1) Maybe. Other manufacturers (e. g. Asus) list the earliest required BIOS
revision for a given CPU, but MSI chooses to say only whether their latest
BIOS supports the listed CPUs.
(That's not a big deal. If you follow the instructions for updating your
BIOS, it's unlikely that you'll get a bad flash. I've always used the DOS
boot floppy method. If you have any large dogs or small children, don't let
them pull the power cord while you're in the middle of the update. As that
takes less than a minute, the security isn't hard to maintain. There may
also be a BIOS recovery mode. The recovery method Asus offers requires a
specially-named copy of a BIOS file on a floppy or CD. I've never needed it,
though.)
2) Probably you will not have to do anything in XP. I swapped an X2 4400+
into a system that was previously running a single-core 3500+. (The system
was an Asus A8V Deluxe, with the Via K8T800 Pro chipset.) On the first boot
into XP (Home) after the new CPU, XP detected the new chip and switched to
the proper multiprocessor HAL. I have no reason to believe that things would
be any different with your nVidia nForce 3 Ultra mainboard.
If there's a problem with XP automatically installing the new HAL, it may be
possible to change it manually:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283/en-us
The above article is a bit confusing. Go to Device Manager, open Computer.
Do a manual driver update to ACPI Multiprocessor PC. (Usual disclaimer: if
your PC is hosed by this, you have my deepest sympathy.)
Hope this helps.
Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
"GuessWho" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo with a Athlon64 Venice core CPU.
According to my manual this board supports Athlon64 FX / Athlon64 CPUs. I'd
like to get x2 function because there are times when it would be nice to
have dual core functionality, but I'd rather not build a completely new
system.
According to this site:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=607&kind=1
this board will support Athlon64 x2 processors. I have never upgraded the
BIOS since I bought this board about a year ago and I know there is a
newer BIOS version. However, I've always been advised not to fool with the
BIOS unless I'm having a problem or the new BIOS has functionality that I
don't have but want.
Two questions:
1. If the link info is correct, do I need a BIOS upgrade to get x2
support?
2. If I can replace the CPU, will I need to do a Repair install of my XP
Pro after replacing the current CPU?
TIA,
Wayne
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GuessWho
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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Bob,
Thanx. I'm very encouraged by your reply.
Wayne
"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | 1) Maybe. Other manufacturers (e. g. Asus) list the earliest required BIOS
revision for a given CPU, but MSI chooses to say only whether their latest
BIOS supports the listed CPUs.
(That's not a big deal. If you follow the instructions for updating your
BIOS, it's unlikely that you'll get a bad flash. I've always used the DOS
boot floppy method. If you have any large dogs or small children, don't
let them pull the power cord while you're in the middle of the update. As
that takes less than a minute, the security isn't hard to maintain. There
may also be a BIOS recovery mode. The recovery method Asus offers requires
a specially-named copy of a BIOS file on a floppy or CD. I've never needed
it, though.)
2) Probably you will not have to do anything in XP. I swapped an X2 4400+
into a system that was previously running a single-core 3500+. (The system
was an Asus A8V Deluxe, with the Via K8T800 Pro chipset.) On the first
boot into XP (Home) after the new CPU, XP detected the new chip and
switched to the proper multiprocessor HAL. I have no reason to believe
that things would be any different with your nVidia nForce 3 Ultra
mainboard.
If there's a problem with XP automatically installing the new HAL, it may
be possible to change it manually:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283/en-us
The above article is a bit confusing. Go to Device Manager, open Computer.
Do a manual driver update to ACPI Multiprocessor PC. (Usual disclaimer: if
your PC is hosed by this, you have my deepest sympathy.)
Hope this helps.
Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
"GuessWho" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:9U5Fg.18281$uH6.18266@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo with a Athlon64 Venice core CPU.
According to my manual this board supports Athlon64 FX / Athlon64 CPUs.
I'd like to get x2 function because there are times when it would be nice
to have dual core functionality, but I'd rather not build a completely new
system.
According to this site:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=607&kind=1
this board will support Athlon64 x2 processors. I have never upgraded the
BIOS since I bought this board about a year ago and I know there is a
newer BIOS version. However, I've always been advised not to fool with
the BIOS unless I'm having a problem or the new BIOS has functionality
that I don't have but want.
Two questions:
1. If the link info is correct, do I need a BIOS upgrade to get x2
support?
2. If I can replace the CPU, will I need to do a Repair install of my XP
Pro after replacing the current CPU?
TIA,
Wayne
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BigJim
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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ah it brings back memories or maybe nightmares of those days and boards.
"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Ok, now don't start laughin', but I have an old NEC computer here
with an Intel motherboard and 200MHz socket 7 Intel chip. Here are
the specs:
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Code Name P55
Specification Intel Pentium MMX
Family / Model / Stepping 5 4 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package Socket 7
Technology 0.35µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX
CPU Clock Speed 198.9 MHz
Clock multiplier x 3.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 66.3 MHz
Bus Speed 66.3 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32
Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32
Bytes line size
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer Intel
Motherboard model
BIOS vendor Intel Corp.
BIOS revision 1.00.12.DN0R
BIOS release date 07/07/97
Chipset Intel 7030 rev. 2
Southbridge Intel 82371 (PIIX3) rev. 1
It's got 64MB of RAM which I would double if this switch works
What I need to know is can I slap an AMD 800MHz socket 7 chip into
this puppy and breathe new life into it? Or am I looking at a big
pile of doo-doo if I try it?
Thanks for info.
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Conor
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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In article <_GCVh.446562$dB6.408611@fe08.news.easynews.com>, geoff
says...
| Quote: | Short answer:
It is a pile of do-do and no, you can't put an AMD CPU in an Intel MB.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA |
What a load of rubbish. AMD only stopped being interchangeable with the
introduction of Slot 1 which was several years after they entered the
CPU market.
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Conor
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Conor
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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In article <5ODVh.446782$dB6.74928@fe08.news.easynews.com>, geoff
says...
| Quote: | Not too young but young doing my own builds. My first build was 1998, all
Intel. Before that, I bought gateway, or compaq, etc.
With my gateway, I tried what the OP is trying. Plugged in a faster cpu,
and eventually had to buy serial ports, the on board ones were too slow.
You really don't have a *** clue do you? |
Serial ports are serial ports. THey've been the same speed since the
early 90's when the high speed UART became the norm.
| Quote: | However, it did not help much. What changed my mind is my company had a
video presentation, I was home, went to the webpage and it said the video
will start in like 10 minutes. Meanwhile, people were posting questions to
be asked.
When the video started, I got a winblows dialog box that said something
like, 'your cpu is not fast enough to process this video'.
That's because you didn't, and obviously still, don't have a clue. |
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DaveW
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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Sorry, but no can do. That motherboard will not recognize that newer CPU.
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"The Seabat" <seabat@NOSPAMboardermail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Ok, now don't start laughin', but I have an old NEC computer here
with an Intel motherboard and 200MHz socket 7 Intel chip. Here are
the specs:
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Code Name P55
Specification Intel Pentium MMX
Family / Model / Stepping 5 4 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package Socket 7
Technology 0.35µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX
CPU Clock Speed 198.9 MHz
Clock multiplier x 3.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 66.3 MHz
Bus Speed 66.3 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32
Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32
Bytes line size
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer Intel
Motherboard model
BIOS vendor Intel Corp.
BIOS revision 1.00.12.DN0R
BIOS release date 07/07/97
Chipset Intel 7030 rev. 2
Southbridge Intel 82371 (PIIX3) rev. 1
It's got 64MB of RAM which I would double if this switch works
What I need to know is can I slap an AMD 800MHz socket 7 chip into
this puppy and breathe new life into it? Or am I looking at a big
pile of doo-doo if I try it?
Thanks for info.
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John Doe
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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"geoff" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That was already corrected, but we need you back here rod, your
smart *** style makes everything right again.
-g
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Save your strength, it's not Rod. |
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geoff
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: CPU upgrade |
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| Quote: | Save your strength, it's not Rod.
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Then it makes one wonder why a group like this brings out the nut jobs . . .
-g |
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