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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Dream PC Reply with quote

Hello,

Skybuck's Dream PC for 2006 has one weakness so far:

It doesn't have any support for the old phone system.

So that means I can't use old dial-up internet providers.

Nor can phone conversations be recorded which might come in handy or be
cool.

It turns out my new internet provider is a NAZI.

A lawsuit will soon follow.

ISP's should not disconnect their users for bullshit reasons, that
causes more harm than good.

Back to the subject at hand:

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

I searched a little bit but such modems do not exist ?

I wish I could buy one... in case I need to use an old dial-up internet
provider or record legacy telephone calls =D wink it could also function
as a fax machine...

It would be cool to have these features which seem now lost for ever...
unless one could use skype and that kind of stuff... but I am not into
the new stuff nor can I use it... because of NAZI internet provider ;)

I secretly hope that some day some manufacturer will produce exactly
what I want ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Skybuck
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

Quote:
I wish I could buy one... in case I need to use an old dial-up internet
provider or record legacy telephone calls =D wink it could also function
as a fax machine...

Euh I ment answering machine =D

^^^ That's cool =D

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

Quote:
I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?
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martin griffith
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

On 9 Aug 2006 14:49:26 -0700, in sci.electronics.design "Skybuck"
<skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?
limited market, naff drivers to write?



martin
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Skybuck
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Quote:
Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

"Skybuck" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155160166.915816.148210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

Oh, comports typically go at 115.2 Kbaud. The best modem in the world only
does 56 Kbaud on a really good day, and they're certainly designed to
interoperate well.

Quote:
External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?

The chipsets to run PCI Express are designed for greater bandwidth, and
haven't been around anywhere near as long. Given that PCI Express is
typically used for high-speed video and network devices, there's just not
much market to develop one for modems.
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krw
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

In article <7ImdnenUVM6z9EfZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
nkadel@comcast.net says...
Quote:

"Skybuck" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155160166.915816.148210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

Oh, comports typically go at 115.2 Kbaud. The best modem in the world only
does 56 Kbaud

c/baud/bps/

Quote:
on a really good day, and they're certainly designed to
interoperate well.

...and are well buffered, so are unlikely to under/over run. Some
ports can do even better.

Quote:
External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?

The chipsets to run PCI Express are designed for greater bandwidth, and
haven't been around anywhere near as long. Given that PCI Express is
typically used for high-speed video and network devices, there's just not
much market to develop one for modems.

....and modems are dead. The market is smaller than Skybuck's
brain, but perhaps larger than his wallet.

--
Keith
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The Real Andy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

On 9 Aug 2006 14:49:26 -0700, "Skybuck" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

What the ***? The serial port is much faster than the modem. The
modem is SLOW. Anyhow, the best thing you can do is not dream about
computers, but instead women. Computers are boring. Then again, you
can use the computer to look at women, but you dont need a super fast
one to do that.


Quote:
External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Electric dabbler
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

Quote:

External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.


Use a USB modem connected to a USB header on the motherboard then build it
inside the PC case with only a small hole for the telephone line connector.

or some are very small indeed:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0009I9UEU/sr=1-22/qid=1155245738/ref=sr_1_22/202-6099372-2561432?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Philip
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Skybuck
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: PCI Express 4x 1x Voice/Fax/Data Modem ? (Skybuck's Drea Reply with quote

martin griffith schreef:

Quote:
On 9 Aug 2006 14:49:26 -0700, in sci.electronics.design "Skybuck"
skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote:


Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:

Skybuck wrote:

[ ranting snipped ]

I would like to own/buy a pci express 4x 1x voice/fax/data modem. It's
the only slot available in my pc.

That's an extraordinarily expensive way to do a modem, since PCI and even
ISA or USB or external serial ports all support them quite well. Why not
simply get an external serial fax/modem?

Hmm, I didn't know usb modem's existed. I was thinking about an
external modem... question is if the com port would have seriously
limited it. But a USB modem could be fast. Further all other PCI slots
are taken and no ISA slots available.

External modems are usually much more expensive and it requires extra
space on my desktop.

I'd rather have an internal modem which always goes with my computer wink
"embedded" =D

Why would a PCI Express 4x 1x be more expensive than a normal PCI modem
?
limited market, naff drivers to write?

Probably not... large parts of USA still without broadband ? ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
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