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S.Lewis
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 Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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Has anyone successfully upgraded either of the following models to XP Home
SP2? The first link (photo for case ID purposes only, btw) shows a 500S
desktop similar to (2) units that both crashed upon first reboot after an
attempted XP2 upgrade. I ultimately suspected BIOS flash, but did not flash
either as a pro/con decision. These were P4 1.8GHz/256mb DDR PC2100
machines:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MINT-Gateway-500S-Motherboard-P-N-4000777-and-Case_W0QQitemZ8826746204QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3666QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Now I have a P4 2.0GHz/512mb similar 500 (although a bit newer, I think)
that needs the upgrade. Photo of the case:
http://www.beststuff.com/images/articles/052303b.jpg
Can anyone comment as to a successful or problematic upgrade with either
chassis? Obviously, the systems will have minimal external hardware
connected and will be verified clean of any/all infections or spywares.
Apologies in advance, as I can't seem to locate much helpful info at the
Gateway support site. Could be because I'm not very familiar with it. I
used the serial number of the newer/2nd system linked here to browse and
dig.
Any comments or experiences with SP2 and either of these platforms is
appreciated.
Stew |
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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I've successfully upgraded the newer model. Please disregard. I would like
to know if anyone has been able to get SP2 on the older (beige) 500S tower.
Thanks,
Stew |
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Tweek
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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Just worked on two of them. There were two different motherboards used in
the beige 500S. One with an 845 board that uses SDRAM and one with an 845
that uses DDR. Both of the ones I had here were of the DDR variety. SP2 was
already installed on one and I installed it on the other one with no
problems. I always use cleanup! to remove the temp files and then use
dial-a-fix to fix common issues before installing sp2. I rarely see problems
installing SP2 except on machines that already have issues. Occasionally
after a bad malware infestation or something I will have to do a repair
install of the original XP install before installing SP2.
"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
news:RmSpg.13457$Ud4.10599@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
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Now I have a P4 2.0GHz/512mb similar 500 (although a bit newer, I think)
that needs the upgrade. Photo of the case:
http://www.beststuff.com/images/articles/052303b.jpg
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I've successfully upgraded the newer model. Please disregard. I would like
to know if anyone has been able to get SP2 on the older (beige) 500S
tower.
Thanks,
Stew
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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"Tweek" <shawnwingetREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Just worked on two of them. There were two different motherboards used in
the beige 500S. One with an 845 board that uses SDRAM and one with an 845
that uses DDR. Both of the ones I had here were of the DDR variety. SP2
was already installed on one and I installed it on the other one with no
problems. I always use cleanup! to remove the temp files and then use
dial-a-fix to fix common issues before installing sp2. I rarely see
problems installing SP2 except on machines that already have issues.
Occasionally after a bad malware infestation or something I will have to
do a repair install of the original XP install before installing SP2.
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Both systems were DDR PC2100 machines, beige case. Repairs were of no help.
Even tried with a different hard disk and a clean install with all updates.
No joy.
I don't suppose you would've noted the BIOS rev. on the DDR based machine
would you?
That's all I've got left - though both machines are out in the field and
running fine with SP1 right now.
Thanks,
Stew |
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Tweek
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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Nope, didn't notice the bios revision. Sorry. Even on a clean install huh?
That is one I haven't seen before for sure.
I was going to check Gateway's site to see if they had any support
information, but they don't even list the 300, 500, or 700 series models at
all anymore. What was happening exactly when you tried the sp2 install?
"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Tweek" <shawnwingetREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:yQcrg.15837$5i3.10416@trnddc01...
Just worked on two of them. There were two different motherboards used in
the beige 500S. One with an 845 board that uses SDRAM and one with an 845
that uses DDR. Both of the ones I had here were of the DDR variety. SP2
was already installed on one and I installed it on the other one with no
problems. I always use cleanup! to remove the temp files and then use
dial-a-fix to fix common issues before installing sp2. I rarely see
problems installing SP2 except on machines that already have issues.
Occasionally after a bad malware infestation or something I will have to
do a repair install of the original XP install before installing SP2.
Both systems were DDR PC2100 machines, beige case. Repairs were of no
help. Even tried with a different hard disk and a clean install with all
updates.
No joy.
I don't suppose you would've noted the BIOS rev. on the DDR based machine
would you?
That's all I've got left - though both machines are out in the field and
running fine with SP1 right now.
Thanks,
Stew
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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"Tweek" <shawnwingetREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Nope, didn't notice the bios revision. Sorry. Even on a clean install huh?
That is one I haven't seen before for sure.
I was going to check Gateway's site to see if they had any support
information, but they don't even list the 300, 500, or 700 series models
at all anymore. What was happening exactly when you tried the sp2 install?
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Tweek -
Essentially a BSOD stop error at the first (as you know, very lengthy)
reboot after the install. I don't recall the specifics of the error, only
that neither machine made it to the Windows XP SP2 security enable/prompt
screen beyond the welcome screen. The machines POST'd fine, but choked on
the OS system changes somewhere.
I tried every form of repair I could muster and threw everything I had at
both machines with no luck (with minimal no externals connected). The only
thing I didn't try in either case was a BIOS flash, and I simply didn't
want to go there out of desperation. I ended up leaving both at SP1 with
all manual updates but no SP2.
I also had searched the Gateway site and googled it to death and came up
with zip.
I did come across one owner/user in this very group experiencing the same
thing, but he'd found no work around either. I was just curious if by this
time he or someone else had broken through.
Apparently you have.(g) I'm still left to think it might be BIOS related
somehow.
Thanks
Stew |
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Tweek
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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I just love dealing with fun stuff like that. The boards in those machines
are Intel designed boards that are similar to their retail offerings so I
would be inclined to blame the bios too. I can't imagine it being anything
else. If you have to work on them again one other suggestion I could give is
trying a fresh install of XP with SP2 slipstreamed into the install and see
what happens then.
"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Tweek" <shawnwingetREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Nope, didn't notice the bios revision. Sorry. Even on a clean install
huh? That is one I haven't seen before for sure.
I was going to check Gateway's site to see if they had any support
information, but they don't even list the 300, 500, or 700 series models
at all anymore. What was happening exactly when you tried the sp2
install?
Tweek -
Essentially a BSOD stop error at the first (as you know, very lengthy)
reboot after the install. I don't recall the specifics of the error, only
that neither machine made it to the Windows XP SP2 security enable/prompt
screen beyond the welcome screen. The machines POST'd fine, but choked on
the OS system changes somewhere.
I tried every form of repair I could muster and threw everything I had at
both machines with no luck (with minimal no externals connected). The
only thing I didn't try in either case was a BIOS flash, and I simply
didn't want to go there out of desperation. I ended up leaving both at
SP1 with all manual updates but no SP2.
I also had searched the Gateway site and googled it to death and came up
with zip.
I did come across one owner/user in this very group experiencing the same
thing, but he'd found no work around either. I was just curious if by this
time he or someone else had broken through.
Apparently you have.(g) I'm still left to think it might be BIOS related
somehow.
Thanks
Stew
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ByteofKnowledge
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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I have a Gateway 300 series desktop in my shop at the moment, and I cannot load SP2 on it. I have removed all PCI cards from it, and have a new hard drive with the OEM Windows XP SP0 loaded on it. It works fine. Then I try to put SP2 on there, and it gives me the BSOD on reboot. I get the unhelpful "run chkdsk or uninstall anti-virus software" suggestion and the following string:
0x00000024 (0x00190203, 0x82BD2AE0, 0xC0000102, 0x00000000)
The third code (0x82 etc) is variable. The rest are always the same.
I have flashed the BIOS to the latest version EA81520A.15A.0011.P08 (was EA81520A.15A.0011.P06), still got the error on attempting to boot. Only a non-network safe mode will boot. Safe mode w/ networking, last known config, all fail.
Will now try to clean install Windows (4th time) and see if having a newer BIOS during this process or the SP2 installation helps at all.
As the networking safe mode fails, next step is to try a different nic card. Will keep you posted. |
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ByteofKnowledge
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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Tried the clean install with the BIOS upgrade *and* a different NIC card, and the same result.
I'm giving up on this P.O.S. SP1 it is. And Windiz/Firefox for updates. |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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Because 0x00000024 indicates an NTFS error, I wonder if the hard drive is
failing? It is possible that installs of earlier XP don't encounter any bad
sectors, while the larger more bloated SP2 does. Run manufacturer's diagnostics
on the hard drive... Ben Myers
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:10:52 -0000, no@spam.invalid (ByteofKnowledge) wrote:
| Quote: | Tried the clean install with the BIOS upgrade *and* a different NIC
card, and the same result.
I'm giving up on this P.O.S. SP1 it is. And Windiz/Firefox for
updates. |
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ByteofKnowledge
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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| It's a brand new hard drive. |
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Ikaros
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Gateway 500 S desktop XP SP2 upgrade. Can anyone verify? |
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On May 28, 5:54 am, n...@spam.invalid (ByteofKnowledge) wrote:
| Quote: | It's a brand new hard drive.
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When doing an OS upgrade you should always run Chkdsk first (easiest
done from under My Computer properties, Tools tab, Error-Checking)
because that will detect any bad sectors and mark them to prevent
files to be written there. All the other checks should be done to like
Virus scan, Spyware scan, and possibly even a Defrag (which takes
forever sometimes). You want as clean as possible upgrade with no
obsticles like bad sectors to interfere with it. By the way it is
farly common for a new hard drive to sometimes have a few bad sectors.
They are usually detected at the factory during a low level format and
don't take up much disk space so the drive to still usable and within
is specified size rating. |
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