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delicious p quick Member


Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: IP Address change and confusion |
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Hi, I'm running XP pro, I've gone in and attempted to change my ip, via... run, cmd, ipconfig/release, ipconfig/renew. after both release and renew i get the message "no operation can be performed on local area connection while it has its media disconnected". I have tried to do this both while hooked up to the internet and while off line. in both cases i receive the same message, and am still able to connect or stay connected to the net.
Is there something I'm missing?
Thanks so much! (i've done the search and didn't find anything and this may even be in the wrong section,, sorry  _________________ sup pup |
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Gerard Bok Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:30:44 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, I'm running XP pro,
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Or XP pro is running you :-)
| Quote: | I've gone in and attempted to change my ip, via... run, cmd,
ipconfig/release, ipconfig/renew. after both release and renew i get
the message "no operation can be performed on local area
connection while it has its media disconnected". I have tried
to do this both while hooked up to the internet and while off line.
in both cases i receive the same message, and am still able to
connect or stay connected to the net.
Is there something I'm missing?
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Not so much 'missing', more than likely, you have something extra
:-) Like an extra network connection.
It's quite possible to have one media disconnected while
maintaining internet connection on another network connection. Or
even a dial-in adapter.
Type ipconfig /h for the full story.
Note, that in most cases, you are not in control as to which IP
address you use. Your IP assigns an IP address. And if you choose
to 'renew' you get the same address again and again.
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Kind regards,
Gerard Bok |
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John Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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Gerard Bok wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:30:44 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
:) Hi, I'm running XP pro,
Or XP pro is running you :-)
I've gone in and attempted to change my ip, via... run, cmd,
ipconfig/release, ipconfig/renew. after both release and renew i get
the message "no operation can be performed on local area
connection while it has its media disconnected". I have tried
to do this both while hooked up to the internet and while off line.
in both cases i receive the same message, and am still able to
connect or stay connected to the net.
Is there something I'm missing?
Not so much 'missing', more than likely, you have something extra
:-) Like an extra network connection.
It's quite possible to have one media disconnected while
maintaining internet connection on another network connection. Or
even a dial-in adapter.
Type ipconfig /h for the full story.
Note, that in most cases, you are not in control as to which IP
address you use. Your IP assigns an IP address. And if you choose
to 'renew' you get the same address again and again.
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In the past I remember being able to turn everything off and being getting
a different IP assigned. What has changed? Is this the same with a dial-up
connection?
Thanks.
J. |
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Bob Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:04:24 GMT, bok118@zonnet.nl (Gerard Bok) wrote:
| Quote: | if you choose to 'renew' you get the same address again and again.
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How do you force the DHCP server at the ISPs end to give you a
different IP address?
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"A politician's neck should always have a noose around it.
It keeps him upright."
-Robert Heinlein |
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Gerard Bok Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:07:27 -0400, "John" <Unionman@spamex.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Gerard Bok wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:30:44 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
:) Hi, I'm running XP pro,
Or XP pro is running you :-)
I've gone in and attempted to change my ip, via... run, cmd,
ipconfig/release, ipconfig/renew. after both release and renew i get
the message "no operation can be performed on local area
connection while it has its media disconnected". I have tried
to do this both while hooked up to the internet and while off line.
in both cases i receive the same message, and am still able to
connect or stay connected to the net.
Is there something I'm missing?
Not so much 'missing', more than likely, you have something extra
:-) Like an extra network connection.
It's quite possible to have one media disconnected while
maintaining internet connection on another network connection. Or
even a dial-in adapter.
Type ipconfig /h for the full story.
Note, that in most cases, you are not in control as to which IP
address you use. Your IP assigns an IP address. And if you choose
to 'renew' you get the same address again and again.
In the past I remember being able to turn everything off and being getting
a different IP assigned. What has changed? Is this the same with a dial-up
connection?
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You have several options, per connection.
1) DHCP. Everything is handled by the DHCP server. That's either
your ISP or your own router, mostly.
2) Alternate address. (An XP feature). You can tell Windows which
IP-address to use if the DHCP server is not available.
3) Apipa. In the absence of 1 and 2, your PC 'guesses' an IP
address in the 169. region. And it keeps on trying to contact a
DHCP server
4) Manual assignment.
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Kind regards,
Gerard Bok |
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delicious p quick Member


Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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Thanks Gerard, now i'm totally confused,, lol did the cmn line you said, but i don't get it. is there soemthing i should do? turn something on? off?
Dee _________________ sup pup |
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Gerard Bok Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:30:15 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Gerard, now i'm totally confused,, lol did the
cmn line you said, but i don't get it. is there soemthing i should
do? turn something on? off?
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Chances are, that you have more than 1 network connection
(according to Windows.)
If you type ipconfig /renew, Windows attempts to renew the
IP-address on the first one.
If your connection to the internet is over the second network
connection, you will hardly see any change.
Therefore: ipconfig /h
It shows you, how to tell howmany network connections Windows
sees. And it tells you, what you need to type to renew on any
network connection.
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Kind regards,
Gerard Bok |
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Lawrence Lucier Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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Gerard Bok wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:30:15 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
Thanks Gerard, now i'm totally confused,, lol did the
cmn line you said, but i don't get it. is there soemthing i should
do? turn something on? off?
Chances are, that you have more than 1 network connection
(according to Windows.)
If you type ipconfig /renew, Windows attempts to renew the
IP-address on the first one.
If your connection to the internet is over the second network
connection, you will hardly see any change.
Therefore: ipconfig /h
It shows you, how to tell howmany network connections Windows
sees. And it tells you, what you need to type to renew on any
network connection.
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/h??????
ipconfig /all
ifconfig /release /all
ifconfig /renew /all
For Help and ipconfig arguments: ipconfig /? |
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delicious p quick Member


Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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Thanks for all the input!!
Now should all this be done while offline, or can it be done while on? do you need to reboot?
Thanks,
Dee  _________________ sup pup |
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Gerard Bok Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:27:01 GMT, Lawrence Lucier
<llucier@shaw.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Gerard Bok wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:30:15 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
Therefore: ipconfig /h
It shows you, how to tell howmany network connections Windows
sees. And it tells you, what you need to type to renew on any
network connection.
/h??????
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Seems to be version dependent :-)
XP Home SP2 (dutch) provides about 2 screens of instructions and
options with ipconfig /h
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Kind regards,
Gerard Bok |
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Todd Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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"Lawrence Lucier" <llucier@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:9FZ4g.91208$7a.80339@pd7tw1no...
| Quote: | Gerard Bok wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:30:15 GMT, no@spam.invalid (delicious p
quick) wrote:
Thanks Gerard, now i'm totally confused,, lol did the
cmn line you said, but i don't get it. is there soemthing i should
do? turn something on? off?
Chances are, that you have more than 1 network connection
(according to Windows.)
If you type ipconfig /renew, Windows attempts to renew the
IP-address on the first one.
If your connection to the internet is over the second network
connection, you will hardly see any change.
Therefore: ipconfig /h
It shows you, how to tell howmany network connections Windows
sees. And it tells you, what you need to type to renew on any
network connection.
/h??????
ipconfig /all
ifconfig /release /all
ifconfig /renew /all
For Help and ipconfig arguments: ipconfig /?
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USAGE:
ipconfig [/? | /all | /release [adapter] | /renew [adapter]
| /flushdns | /registerdns
| /showclassid adapter
| /setclassid adapter [classidtoset] ]
adapter Full name or pattern with '*' and '?' to 'match',
* matches any character, ? matches one character.
Options
/? Display this help message.
/all Display full configuration information.
/release Release the IP address for the specified adapter.
/renew Renew the IP address for the specified adapter.
/flushdns Purges the DNS Resolver cache.
/registerdns Refreshes all DHCP leases and re-registers DNS names
/displaydns Display the contents of the DNS Resolver Cache.
/showclassid Displays all the dhcp class IDs allowed for adapter.
/setclassid Modifies the dhcp class id.
The default is to display only the IP address, subnet mask and
default gateway for each adapter bound to TCP/IP.
For Release and Renew, if no adapter name is specified, then the IP address
leases for all adapters bound to TCP/IP will be released or renewed.
For SetClassID, if no class id is specified, then the classid is removed.
Examples:
| Quote: | ipconfig ... Show information.
ipconfig /all ... Show detailed information
ipconfig /renew ... renew all adapaters
ipconfig /renew EL* ... renew adapters named EL....
ipconfig /release *ELINK?21* ... release all matching adapters,
eg. ELINK-21, myELELINKi21adapter. |
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delicious p quick Member


Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: Re: IP Address change and confusion |
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i can't seem to get it to release or anything, thanks guys  _________________ sup pup |
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