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Al Dykes
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 Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:20 am Post subject: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard ? |
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Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?
Thanks
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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cheap & cheerful mobo's. i`d consider buying one for a 'fill in' board. eg,
if i needed a pc now, but planned to upgrade in the near-ish future (6months
or so)
not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
tim
"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
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Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?
Thanks
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Al Dykes
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-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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On 28 Oct 2003 16:20:50 -0500, adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
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Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?
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PC Chips is one of those outfits that garnered a *** reputation
early on and for many people (me included) that bad taste has never
left. Thusly, if someone gave one to me, I'd see how far I could
throw it.
*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> Ratz O. Fratzo |
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Al Dykes
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:03 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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In article <bnmoqq$ee$1@hercules.btinternet.com>,
\(\) |V| 3 G A <spam_wasteground@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | cheap & cheerful mobo's. i`d consider buying one for a 'fill in' board. eg,
if i needed a pc now, but planned to upgrade in the near-ish future (6months
or so)
not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
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It's (a) a Flex mobo, (b) cheap, and (c) fast enough.
I want to build a dedicated-function Linux box out of it.
Thanks
| Quote: | tim
"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:bnmmji$al5$1@panix3.panix.com...
Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?
Thanks
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Al Dykes
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Byron A Jeff
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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In article <bnmmji$al5$1@panix3.panix.com>, Al Dykes <adykes@panix.com> wrote:
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-Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
-heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
-very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
-web site has a manual, I can't find it.
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-http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
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-I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
-thing ?
PC CHIPS is a low end MB manufacturer. Low cost, suspect quality, and high
end infant mortality are their hallmarks. I have several M810s that are 3 years
old and I'm happy with them. Just be prepared to bring bad ones back.
BAJ |
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philo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:bnmmji$al5$1@panix3.panix.com...
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Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?
Thanks
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over the last 3 or 3 years i must have built over 300 machines...mostly
from surplus parts
the only board that ever casued me a problem was a PC Chips board
the system was so unstable that i actually had to underclock my amd-450
to 366mhz
not only that, it had on-board video...but if i used it
the modem would not work !
i think i;d pass on the PC Chips boards |
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Joe Dunning
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:58:50 +0000 (UTC), \(\) |V| 3 G A
<spam_wasteground@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
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My personal experience of Asus is not good. I bought quite a few Asus
MBs for the office where I work and we have had what I consider to be
an unacceptable failure rate (but don't ask me for numbers, because I
don't have them).
At this point, I'm not sure what is a good brand to buy for reliability. |
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Daniel Yates
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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"Joe Dunning" <joe@blahblah.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:58:50 +0000 (UTC), \(\) |V| 3 G A
spam_wasteground@btopenworld.com> wrote:
not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
My personal experience of Asus is not good. I bought quite a few Asus
MBs for the office where I work and we have had what I consider to be
an unacceptable failure rate (but don't ask me for numbers, because I
don't have them).
At this point, I'm not sure what is a good brand to buy for reliability.
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I would have to say that is a minority view. The majority of people who have
spoken about Asus boards have given them much praise, with very few
complaints about them. Considering their increased sales over the last
quarter as well I think Asus are going to be set to dominate the market
completely. The P4P800 is now classed as the "mobo to have" pretty much if
you ar a pentium user, which the majority still are. Of course every
manufacturer will have their boards that blow, or dont work out of the box,
but all in all Asus I would say are best of the field to date.
Daniel |
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Michael J. Apollyon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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| Quote: | Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything
about this
thing ?
PC Chips is one of those outfits that garnered a ***
reputation
early on and for many people (me included) that bad taste has
never
left. Thusly, if someone gave one to me, I'd see how far I
could
throw it.
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Hehe. We run across various PC Chips systems and components
under a plethora of other names (PCWare, Amptron, Eurone,
Matsonic, et al). I've seen some odd behavior from them over
the years ranging from nonfunctional ACPI and DMA, intentional
underclocked bus speeds (100MHz reported, ~90MHz actual),
drivers which are labeled Not For Production, flaky BIOSs,
chipset obfuscation, etc. To their credit, quality has been
improved somewhat. Once they're up and running, they're
usually fine.
Like many, I have never really forgiven them for the fake cache
debacle from the 486 days. If cost is an issue, I would go
with other low-cost boards from ECS or ASRock. |
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Doug Zimmerman
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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"Michael J. Apollyon" <zvpunry.wb@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
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Like many, I have never really forgiven them for the fake cache
debacle from the 486 days. If cost is an issue, I would go
with other low-cost boards from ECS or ASRock.
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I've been running an Asrock (ASUS value line) K7VM2
with Duron 900 for about eight weeks. Decent quality mobo
for the (very inexpensive) price. Reasonably documented.
Be aware the Asrock support is nothing like ASUS. If
you feel that you might want a bit of vendor support with
your purchase, look elsewhere (or at least check the
vendor web site before buying.)
I'm not complaining. I paid a very low price and got
everything the vendor promised. Stable. No issues.
Nice cheap way to utilize spare parts to build a
reliable machine.
Not a good choice for people who want support
articles, knowledge base, overclocking, etc. |
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Peter A. Stavrakoglou
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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"Michael J. Apollyon" <zvpunry.wb@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote in message
news:NMQnb.29365$4O1.7003@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
| Quote: | Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything
about this
thing ?
PC Chips is one of those outfits that garnered a ***
reputation
early on and for many people (me included) that bad taste has
never
left. Thusly, if someone gave one to me, I'd see how far I
could
throw it.
Hehe. We run across various PC Chips systems and components
under a plethora of other names (PCWare, Amptron, Eurone,
Matsonic, et al). I've seen some odd behavior from them over
the years ranging from nonfunctional ACPI and DMA, intentional
underclocked bus speeds (100MHz reported, ~90MHz actual),
drivers which are labeled Not For Production, flaky BIOSs,
chipset obfuscation, etc. To their credit, quality has been
improved somewhat. Once they're up and running, they're
usually fine.
Like many, I have never really forgiven them for the fake cache
debacle from the 486 days. If cost is an issue, I would go
with other low-cost boards from ECS or ASRock.
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ECS is owned by PCChips. I wouldn't buy any PCChips board for
whatever small amount they cost. I did purchase an ECS board for one
computer in the house knowing that PCChips owned the company but
reveiws have been good so I took a chance. So far, so good. I have
had bad experience with ABIT boards - two of them went bad. One had
bad caps and the other had an IDE controller go bad. I've had enough
of ABIT boards based on this. I have an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe in my
system and a Chaintech 7VJL in my oldest son's computer and they both
are rock-solid. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another board from either
company. |
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Gary G. Taylor
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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Al Dykes wrote:
| Quote: | Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.
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IMHO, PC Chips mobos are THE WORST ON THE PLANET. Avoid them at all costs.
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gary at donavan dot org / http:// geetee dot donavan dot org
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kcr
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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"Joe Dunning" <joe@blahblah.invalid> wrote in message
news:e9Knb.54003$Fm2.33787@attbi_s04...
| Quote: | On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:58:50 +0000 (UTC), \(\) |V| 3 G A
spam_wasteground@btopenworld.com> wrote:
not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
My personal experience of Asus is not good. I bought quite a few Asus
MBs for the office where I work and we have had what I consider to be
an unacceptable failure rate (but don't ask me for numbers, because I
don't have them).
At this point, I'm not sure what is a good brand to buy for reliability.
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I've had good luck with gigbyte and soyo brands. Mainly the Soyo Dragon plus
line.
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amanayin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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| pc chips MBS, will give you nightmares |
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wesley
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a "PC Chips" M851LU Motherboard |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:20:50 -0500, Al Dykes wrote:
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Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never heard of; PC
CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find very little about this via
google, and if the manufacturer's web site has a manual, I can't find it.
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this thing ?
Thanks
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Over the years I've had one PC Chips motherboard. It was the least
impressive motherboard I've dealt with - built-in sound and video were the
biggest pains.
That said, the thing is still running, and actually Linux runs better on
it than Windows 98 ever did. I keep that box around to try out new Linux
upgrades and distributions before I actually install them on my work
machines. If the upgrade works on this box, then I have confidence it'll
run on my better units.
However, my PC Chips motherboard is not the same model as the one you
speak of, but personally, I wouldn't buy another of their products. |
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