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iCE Flashing iNC
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 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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visit www.bioschips.webhop.net
For Replacement chips $14
re-flash of existing chip $8 |
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JAD
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:01 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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rumor has it that you never get your original flashed, they say its damaged and you need a replacement...extra charges then occur.
"iCE Flashing iNC" <mail@iceflashing.net> wrote in message news:941b.ce30.da@djice...
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Mike Richter
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:43 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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JAD wrote:
| Quote: | rumor has it that you never get your original flashed, they say its damaged and you need a replacement...extra charges then occur.
mail@.net> wrote in message news:941b.ce30.da@djice...
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| Quote: | For Replacement chips $14
re-flash of existing chip $8
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The risk involved in flashing any hardware is great, of course, so one
should only use software/firmware/hardware from a source you trust
implicitly.
It is easy to claim capability and easier still to assert honesty.
Mike
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mrichter@cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/ |
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TechnoPaul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:37 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:43:34 -0700, Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net>
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| Quote: | JAD wrote:
rumor has it that you never get your original flashed, they say its damaged and you need a replacement...extra charges then occur.
mail@.net> wrote in message news:941b.ce30.da@djice...
For Replacement chips $14
re-flash of existing chip $8
The risk involved in flashing any hardware is great, of course, so one
should only use software/firmware/hardware from a source you trust
implicitly.
It is easy to claim capability and easier still to assert honesty.
Mike
plus, if your BIOS chips are surface mount soldered to the board |
rather than socketed, you need about $1000 worth of
soldering/desoldering equipment to change them...
I do it for a living..... |
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Never anonymous Bud
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here, Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net>
scribbled:
| Quote: | The risk involved in flashing any hardware is great, of course, so one
should only use software/firmware/hardware from a source you trust
implicitly.
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And you can NOT trust spammers, because...
A) Spammers are stupid, and
B) Spammers lie.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
It's your SIG, say what you want to say.... |
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Steve Vai
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:30 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:56:29 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
<thekat@san.rxyzr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here, Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net
scribbled:
The risk involved in flashing any hardware is great, of course, so one
should only use software/firmware/hardware from a source you trust
implicitly.
And you can NOT trust spammers, because...
A) Spammers are stupid, and
B) Spammers lie.
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i bet theres about $50 worth of equipment this guy uses to flash a
bios if that. |
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W7TI
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:20 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:56:29 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
<thekat@san.rxyzr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | And you can NOT trust spammers, because...
A) Spammers are stupid, and
B) Spammers lie.
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And spammers are rich, too. Recently a spammer was interviewed on TV.
He's making around five figures a month. No wonder they do it.
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Bill, W7TI |
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Never anonymous Bud
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:29 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here, W7TI <noway@nohow.com> scribbled:
| Quote: | On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:56:29 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
thekat@san.rxyzr.com> wrote:
And you can NOT trust spammers, because...
A) Spammers are stupid, and
B) Spammers lie.
_________________________________________________________
And spammers are rich, too. Recently a spammer was interviewed on TV.
He's making around five figures a month. No wonder they do it.
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When in doubt, refer to Rule #2...
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
It's your SIG, say what you want to say.... |
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rstlne
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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| Quote: | plus, if your BIOS chips are surface mount soldered to the board
rather than socketed, you need about $1000 worth of
soldering/desoldering equipment to change them...
I do it for a living.....
heh |
I have never seen a EEPROM small enough to require you needing $1000 worth
of kit to remove it..
probably more like $80 or $90 |
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Ben Myers
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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It depends on whether or not you want to damage the board or the BIOS flash
memory chip when removing the chip. Sure, anybody can remove the chip. But it
takes some expertise to do it right. I think that $1000 worth of equipment
plus some experience can do the job better than $80 or $90 of gear in the hands
of a novice.
Now some boards have socketed flash BIOS chips, which are easy to pop out and
put back in. But these boards are very much in the minority. It costs too many
pennies to add a socket to motherboard, and everyone in the industry is pinching
pennies and cutting costs.
The big picture question is why someone would need to replace a flash BIOS chip.
In these days of sub-$100 motherboards, it hardly seems worth it when a good but
not identical replacement can be found. Of course, if you like in the hush-hush
mission critical military-industrial complex where EXACT replacement parts are
required as part of a contract, then repair of obsolete motherboards is probably
an everyday occurance... Ben Myers
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:43:01 +0100, "rstlne" <.@.> wrote:
| Quote: | plus, if your BIOS chips are surface mount soldered to the board
rather than socketed, you need about $1000 worth of
soldering/desoldering equipment to change them...
I do it for a living.....
heh
I have never seen a EEPROM small enough to require you needing $1000 worth
of kit to remove it..
probably more like $80 or $90
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TechnoPaul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:06 am Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:43:01 +0100, "rstlne" <.@.> wrote:
| Quote: | plus, if your BIOS chips are surface mount soldered to the board
rather than socketed, you need about $1000 worth of
soldering/desoldering equipment to change them...
I do it for a living.....
heh
I have never seen a EEPROM small enough to require you needing $1000 worth
of kit to remove it..
probably more like $80 or $90
www.metcal.com |
check out the variety of tips... |
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Remco Meeder
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: BIOS CHIPS : New Replacement Bios Chips or Re - Flash |
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Ben Myers wrote:
| Quote: | It depends on whether or not you want to damage the board or the BIOS flash
memory chip when removing the chip. Sure, anybody can remove the chip. But it
takes some expertise to do it right. I think that $1000 worth of equipment
plus some experience can do the job better than $80 or $90 of gear in the hands
of a novice.
Now some boards have socketed flash BIOS chips, which are easy to pop out and
put back in. But these boards are very much in the minority. It costs too many
pennies to add a socket to motherboard, and everyone in the industry is pinching
pennies and cutting costs.
The big picture question is why someone would need to replace a flash BIOS chip.
In these days of sub-$100 motherboards, it hardly seems worth it when a good but
not identical replacement can be found. Of course, if you like in the hush-hush
mission critical military-industrial complex where EXACT replacement parts are
required as part of a contract, then repair of obsolete motherboards is probably
an everyday occurance... Ben Myers
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Hmm I see quite a lot of motherboards with socketed flash-roms...
My simple Gigabyte Motherboard even has two socketed BIOS chips (this
dual setup saved me a couple of times...).
Remco |
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