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Will Dormann
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:55 pm Post subject: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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I just got a new Logitech MX500 mouse, and I love it. Very precise. I
tried an MS Trackball Explorer and the thing was junk. It could barely
track in a straight line, let alone attempting fine detailed work with it.
Anyway, on to the problem. I'm running the Logitech Mouseware 9.70
software, and everything's great except for the scroll wheel. It's
very sluggish. There's a noticeable delay between moving the wheel and
what I see on the screen. It's almost as if the CPU were overburdened,
but it's not.
I tested out the mouse in Linux and the wheel works great. Nice and
zippy. I also tried this application called "mousemute" to temporarily
disable MouseWare. http://www.snarksoft.com/
When MouseWare is disabled, the scroll wheel works great. (though I
lose the ability to use the back/forward and other extra buttons that
the mouse has)
So, I'd say that pretty much points to the Mouseware software being the
cause of the problem. Has anybody else seen this problem? Is there
some setting I have that's wrong?
I've heard of people using the Intellimouse software with the mouse.
If I switch to that, will I lose any functionality? For example, I
have MouseWare set up to use a 200Hz PS/2 sampling rate. (for
smoooooth tracking!)
Thanks!
-WD |
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JAD
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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maybe that setting of 200mhz is the culprit have you tried the default
values yet?
"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I just got a new Logitech MX500 mouse, and I love it. Very precise. I
tried an MS Trackball Explorer and the thing was junk. It could barely
track in a straight line, let alone attempting fine detailed work with it.
Anyway, on to the problem. I'm running the Logitech Mouseware 9.70
software, and everything's great except for the scroll wheel. It's
very sluggish. There's a noticeable delay between moving the wheel and
what I see on the screen. It's almost as if the CPU were overburdened,
but it's not.
I tested out the mouse in Linux and the wheel works great. Nice and
zippy. I also tried this application called "mousemute" to temporarily
disable MouseWare. http://www.snarksoft.com/
When MouseWare is disabled, the scroll wheel works great. (though I
lose the ability to use the back/forward and other extra buttons that
the mouse has)
So, I'd say that pretty much points to the Mouseware software being the
cause of the problem. Has anybody else seen this problem? Is there
some setting I have that's wrong?
I've heard of people using the Intellimouse software with the mouse.
If I switch to that, will I lose any functionality? For example, I
have MouseWare set up to use a 200Hz PS/2 sampling rate. (for
smoooooth tracking!)
Thanks!
-WD
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Will Dormann
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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JAD wrote:
| Quote: | maybe that setting of 200mhz is the culprit have you tried the default
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Good idea, but that's not the case. Switching to the default value has
no effect. The wheel is still sluggish.
There's an application that I used under Win9x called PS2Rate Plus. You
could set the sample rate and it also had a utility to determine the
current rate. When using MouseMute to disable Mouseware, I checked it
and the sample rate remains at 200Hz. (and the wheel works great)
Unfortunately, PS2Rate doesn't work under Win2k. And the Win2k device
manager properties for the PS/2 port only allow up to 100Hz.
-WD |
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Will Dormann
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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Will Dormann wrote:
| Quote: | JAD wrote:
maybe that setting of 200mhz is the culprit have you tried the default
values yet?
Good idea, but that's not the case. Switching to the default value has
no effect. The wheel is still sluggish.
There's an application that I used under Win9x called PS2Rate Plus. You
could set the sample rate and it also had a utility to determine the
current rate. When using MouseMute to disable Mouseware, I checked it
and the sample rate remains at 200Hz. (and the wheel works great)
Unfortunately, PS2Rate doesn't work under Win2k. And the Win2k device
manager properties for the PS/2 port only allow up to 100Hz.
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OK, I think I've got it. I've upgraded from Mouseware 9.70 to 9.78, and
the scrolling seems to work well now.
Gee, how many versions did they put out before they got scrolling right?!
-WD |
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Rene Lamontagne
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Will Dormann wrote:
JAD wrote:
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SNIP
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OK, I think I've got it. I've upgraded from Mouseware 9.70 to 9.78,
and
the scrolling seems to work well now.
Gee, how many versions did they put out before they got scrolling right?!
-WD
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Yep, finaly after about 4 years of poorly functioning wheelmouse drivers,
ver 9.78 finaly works properly. I've used Logitech mice for years now but
always had to use the MS drivers as the scroll wheel would never work
properly, erratic scrolling in apps and mostly wouldn't work at all in games
such as Half-Life.
Not like they didn't know as I e-mailed their support many times about it
and I'm sure many others have also. But thank The rodent gods they finaly
got it at last, Anyway I like their products and will continue to use them.
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Regards, Rene Lamontagne
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JAD
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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well i too opted to upgrade my Logi freedom optical....and while the mouse
and all is better and especially itouch now, as usual, querks appear (no
mouse in Red alert 2), this is ALWAYS the case with Logi and me (good book
title). Luv the hardware ..hate the s/w
"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:QP61b.118617$ib2.26004967@twister.neo.rr.com...
| Quote: | I just got a new Logitech MX500 mouse, and I love it. Very precise. I
tried an MS Trackball Explorer and the thing was junk. It could barely
track in a straight line, let alone attempting fine detailed work with it.
Anyway, on to the problem. I'm running the Logitech Mouseware 9.70
software, and everything's great except for the scroll wheel. It's
very sluggish. There's a noticeable delay between moving the wheel and
what I see on the screen. It's almost as if the CPU were overburdened,
but it's not.
I tested out the mouse in Linux and the wheel works great. Nice and
zippy. I also tried this application called "mousemute" to temporarily
disable MouseWare. http://www.snarksoft.com/
When MouseWare is disabled, the scroll wheel works great. (though I
lose the ability to use the back/forward and other extra buttons that
the mouse has)
So, I'd say that pretty much points to the Mouseware software being the
cause of the problem. Has anybody else seen this problem? Is there
some setting I have that's wrong?
I've heard of people using the Intellimouse software with the mouse.
If I switch to that, will I lose any functionality? For example, I
have MouseWare set up to use a 200Hz PS/2 sampling rate. (for
smoooooth tracking!)
Thanks!
-WD
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Will Dormann
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 12:39 am Post subject: Re: Logitech Mouseware - Sluggish mouse wheel? |
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JAD wrote:
| Quote: | well i too opted to upgrade my Logi freedom optical....and while the mouse
and all is better and especially itouch now, as usual, querks appear (no
mouse in Red alert 2), this is ALWAYS the case with Logi and me (good book
title). Luv the hardware ..hate the s/w
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Yeah, that seems to be the case. After 7 years or so, my TrackMan
Vista finally bit the dust. Vertical tracking went kinda haywire. I
checked for obstructions and alignment of the optical sensors, but no go.
So I get a brand new Microsoft Trackball Explorer. "Revolutionary
Optical Sensor - High precision Ball!". "Accurate Fingertip Control"
Give me a break. The old Vista was comfortable and *very* precise and
smooth. The MS unit was horribly imprecise and jumpy. Unfortunately,
I got it online to save a few bucks, but that also means that I'm going
to have to pay a restocking fee plus shipping to send it back. :(
Anyway, I love the MX500 mouse. The precision is awesome, and once you
crank up the PS/2 sample rate, it's smooth as silk.
But as for your problem, have you tried the MouseMute software at:
http://www.snarksoft.com/ ?
If there's a particular program that's having trouble with MouseWare,
you can temporarily disable it when using the program. (And to the
program, should appear as a standard PS/2 mouse)
After I upgraded to 9.78, I noticed that my tracking speed had changed
(as opposed to 9.70). But the scroll wheel and extra scrolling buttons
now worked as expected. I hadn't noticed any downsides to upgrading,
but then again I don't play too many games so I dunno...
-WD |
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