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journey wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:34:21 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
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America is what makes the world turn. Without America, the good among
nations and the bad among nations would have nobody to admire and nobody
to loathe. They would simply be on their own in this mean world.
Alt
I posted a response and then deleted it. This is a Dell newsgroup so
I am avoiding politics.
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You did, it seems as if you posted quite a lengthy political poem
Journey. Do you not consider poems to be political?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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Jupiter Jones wrote:
| Quote: | "many in America"
Those are actually the narrow minded few.
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Jupiter, in America, having pride in your country is not considered
narrow minded. This new fad people have of feigning that they don't
know where you are from when you say you are from America is kind of
absurd and narrow minded really.
If I lived in Canada, I would say I lived in Canada, not America. If I
lived in South America, I would say I am from South America, not
America. If I lived in Mexico, I would not say that I lived in North
America, I would say I lived in Mexico. If I lived in Central America,
I would say I lived in Central America, not America.
And I live in the United States, so I and all others in this country say
we live in America. You may not like that, but people from other
countries have no right to determine what Americans are allowed to
designate themselves as.
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Be careful of the other assumptions you make!
You know what is said about assumptions.
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Be careful of the assumptions you make also Jupiter. The same can be
said concerning you.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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"many in America consider it an insult when someone asks what is America"
That is not pride to be insulted when someone asks such a question, it is
narrow minded to think those in one country are the only ones referred when
"America" is mentioned since America consists of many countries in multiple
continents.
Your assumption seems to be that I have little experience in the USA, when
in fact, mine may be greater than yours unless you are past middle aged.
Most I know in the US (a great many) do not assume America is the USA, but
the narrow minded or uneducated I meet often do.
I meet very few in the US that say they live in America, The overwhelming
majority state "USA" or "United States" and sometimes "United States of
America". That also goes for US citizens I have met in other countries.
What assumption do you feel I made?
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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| Quote: | Jupiter Jones wrote:
"many in America"
Those are actually the narrow minded few.
Jupiter, in America, having pride in your country is not considered narrow
minded. This new fad people have of feigning that they don't know where
you are from when you say you are from America is kind of absurd and
narrow minded really.
If I lived in Canada, I would say I lived in Canada, not America. If I
lived in South America, I would say I am from South America, not America.
If I lived in Mexico, I would not say that I lived in North America, I
would say I lived in Mexico. If I lived in Central America, I would say I
lived in Central America, not America.
And I live in the United States, so I and all others in this country say
we live in America. You may not like that, but people from other
countries have no right to determine what Americans are allowed to
designate themselves as.
Be careful of the other assumptions you make!
You know what is said about assumptions.
Be careful of the assumptions you make also Jupiter. The same can be said
concerning you.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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Jupiter Jones wrote:
| Quote: | "many in America consider it an insult when someone asks what is America"
That is not pride to be insulted when someone asks such a question, it is
narrow minded to think those in one country are the only ones referred when
"America" is mentioned since America consists of many countries in multiple
continents.
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You wish to make it seem as if people who live in the United States have
no right to call themselves Americans. As if to do so would be out of
line and incorrect. You seem to believe or wish to perpetrate the myth
that people who live in the United States have never simply called
themselves Americans. Or if they have, it was and is only the dullards
and illiterate imbeciles that would dare ever call themselves Americans
if they live in the United States. You are wrong. You don't know what
you speak of.
If you were being truthful, you could ask anyone in the world what group
of people they think of when someone is called an American and there
would pretty much be only one answer. The answer would be the people
who live in the United States are called Americans. I mean really, why
would you pursue this matter any further Jupiter. You are clearly not
in touch with Americans.
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Your assumption seems to be that I have little experience in the USA, when
in fact, mine may be greater than yours unless you are past middle aged.
Most I know in the US (a great many) do not assume America is the USA, but
the narrow minded or uneducated I meet often do.
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Your assumption that only the uneducated people in the United States
consider calling themselves American tells a great deal about you. It
shows you are more than likely an elitist that has contempt for everyday
people in America that are the cogs in the wheel that make it turn. To
call people who live in the United States who call themselves American
uneducated and ignorant smacks of "let them eat cake". You are not in
touch with regular Americans and for good reason I would imagine.
Because regular 40 hr. a week Americans would probably be turned off by
your better than thou attitude.
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I meet very few in the US that say they live in America, The overwhelming
majority state "USA" or "United States" and sometimes "United States of
America". That also goes for US citizens I have met in other countries.
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There is a difference between saying where you live and what you are. I
would not say I am a United Statesian. If someone asks us what we are
do we say American, of course we do. If your claim is that you know all
about America, better than most Americans do because you consider
yourself more intelligent than most Americans, you don't represent it
very well.
And if you remember, the crux of this conversation revolved around the
fact that you made out as if you didn't understand what I meant when I
said I was from America. Simply because you consider yourself the
intelligentsia and anyone who calls themself American is ignorant is of
little concern to most Americans. We do not live to satisfy the ideals
of how others think we should identify ourselves. Why? Because we are
Americans and we call ourselves what we wish because this is our choice
to do so.
You say that you have more experience in America than I do because you
are older than I. My goodness, have you never heard anyone in this
country describe themselves as being an American. You have lived a very
sheltered existence I would say.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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Thank you all for the information on Dell printer cartridges!
Jim,
Akron, Ohio USA
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| Quote: | You have now changed the word from "America" to "American", two totally
different words with different meanings.
The reference to years was referring to my experience with people in and
from the USA. Do not assume it is merely a reference to age.
Your seem to have more assumptions in this post of yours.
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Jupiter Jones
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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Jupiter Jones wrote:
"many in America consider it an insult when someone asks what is
America"
That is not pride to be insulted when someone asks such a question, it
is narrow minded to think those in one country are the only ones
referred when "America" is mentioned since America consists of many
countries in multiple continents.
You wish to make it seem as if people who live in the United States have
no right to call themselves Americans. As if to do so would be out of
line and incorrect. You seem to believe or wish to perpetrate the myth
that people who live in the United States have never simply called
themselves Americans. Or if they have, it was and is only the dullards
and illiterate imbeciles that would dare ever call themselves Americans
if they live in the United States. You are wrong. You don't know what
you speak of.
If you were being truthful, you could ask anyone in the world what group
of people they think of when someone is called an American and there
would pretty much be only one answer. The answer would be the people who
live in the United States are called Americans. I mean really, why would
you pursue this matter any further Jupiter. You are clearly not in touch
with Americans.
Your assumption seems to be that I have little experience in the USA,
when in fact, mine may be greater than yours unless you are past middle
aged.
Most I know in the US (a great many) do not assume America is the USA,
but the narrow minded or uneducated I meet often do.
Your assumption that only the uneducated people in the United States
consider calling themselves American tells a great deal about you. It
shows you are more than likely an elitist that has contempt for everyday
people in America that are the cogs in the wheel that make it turn. To
call people who live in the United States who call themselves American
uneducated and ignorant smacks of "let them eat cake". You are not in
touch with regular Americans and for good reason I would imagine. Because
regular 40 hr. a week Americans would probably be turned off by your
better than thou attitude.
I meet very few in the US that say they live in America, The
overwhelming majority state "USA" or "United States" and sometimes
"United States of America". That also goes for US citizens I have met
in other countries.
There is a difference between saying where you live and what you are. I
would not say I am a United Statesian. If someone asks us what we are do
we say American, of course we do. If your claim is that you know all
about America, better than most Americans do because you consider
yourself more intelligent than most Americans, you don't represent it
very well.
And if you remember, the crux of this conversation revolved around the
fact that you made out as if you didn't understand what I meant when I
said I was from America. Simply because you consider yourself the
intelligentsia and anyone who calls themself American is ignorant is of
little concern to most Americans. We do not live to satisfy the ideals
of how others think we should identify ourselves. Why? Because we are
Americans and we call ourselves what we wish because this is our choice
to do so.
You say that you have more experience in America than I do because you
are older than I. My goodness, have you never heard anyone in this
country describe themselves as being an American. You have lived a very
sheltered existence I would say.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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Jupiter Jones wrote:
| Quote: | You have now changed the word from "America" to "American", two totally
different words with different meanings.
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With none of the meanings, according to the great U.K. expert on the
United States that has more experience and knows more about America than
most of its own citizens, having anything whatsoever to do with the
people who live in the United States.
| Quote: | The reference to years was referring to my experience with people in and
from the USA. Do not assume it is merely a reference to age.
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You should really make up your mind Jupiter. Here is your quote:
| Quote: | Your assumption seems to be that I have little experience in the USA, when
in fact, mine may be greater than yours unless you are past middle aged.
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Are you trying to convince me now that I should interpret the above
statement as meaning that you have more experience with people from
America? You clearly state above that you have more experience than I
"IN" the United States.
| Quote: | Your seem to have more assumptions in this post of yours.
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As do you Jupiter, and you are also developing a pattern of changing
things to fit your argument when it is clearly not what you originally
had to say. As the above quote proves.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:08:49 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
<""Alt-Ctrl-Del\"@________------------{{{{ }}}}.net"> wrote:
| Quote: | Grow up, this is the real world. Come and join it.
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Wow, I thought you'd be more mature than that.
Yes 911 was a tragedy but it doesn't justify the huge tragedy of
invading Iraq (IMO).
But I'm not going to tell you to grow up. Unlike you, I am not rude
to people.
3,000 people died when the towers were hit. More than 3,000 people
_every day_ die in this country because 45 million Americans don't
have health insurance.
Anyway, I'm on to talk about Dell computers. I doubt we'll change
each others minds, but I do think it would be better for you if you
would learn common courtesy and not insult someone
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:29:45 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
<""Alt-Ctrl-Del\"@________------------{{{{ }}}}.net"> wrote:
| Quote: | Jupiter, in America, having pride in your country is not considered
narrow minded.
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Believe me, Jupiter, he's over-generalizing. Also, there are
semantics involved. A lot of people have pride in America, or want
to, who are cringeing at what is happening now.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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Jim wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you all for the information on Dell printer cartridges!
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Jim,
There is nothing wrong with a little bit of side banter every now and
then. Nobody is being insulting to anyone else. No curse words are
being used. No defamation of character as in many groups.
This is not a moderated group. Anyone that finds this thread boring or
not to their liking is not being forced to read it. You can choose not
to do so. This is not Europe or the Middle East, the newsgroup is not
controlled by fascists or dictators. Neither is it controlled by people
who wish that only things that they approve of to be discussed.
This newsgroup is more like America, free. Kind of like the spirit that
Usenet was originally developed in. The spirit of the freedom to
express your ideas. Americans made this possible also, Americans
created Usenet.
I understand that this is a tech help group. Mostly, that is all that
occurs in this group.
Every now and then a little detour from the mundane can help breathe
life into a group and keep it from stagnating also.
It is just one thread, nobody is trying to take over the group. Relax.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:54:51 GMT, "Jupiter Jones"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I meet very few in the US that say they live in America, The overwhelming
majority state "USA" or "United States" and sometimes "United States of
America". That also goes for US citizens I have met in other countries.
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I agree, I say that I live in the USA. As far as being "American", I
used to like what that represented a _whole lot more_ that what it
represents today.
I am one of the millions of Americans who cannot believe the direction
this country is headed in and the HUGE mistake we made going into
Iraq. Afganistan, sure -- that was brilliant, but we dropped the ball
in not pursuing Bin Laden further.
But there were no weapons of mass destruction. Colin Powell said that
was one of the lowest points of his entire career when he stood in
front of the UN basically with inaccurate information. I think that
they expected to find weapons of mass destruction, and were willing to
lie up front because they thought it would end up being true.
George Bush, in his state of the union address, gloated about how he
was going to save $14 billion dollars by cutting some programs over
the next few years. The Iraq war is now over $300 billion, and
nothing, absolutely nothing, compares to it. The U.S. is over $9
trillion in debt, trying to compete with emerging superpowers.
Oh -- he cut food stamps by $300 million leaving many who can't afford
food to go without. And he cut section 8 housing for the hundreds of
thousands of people on the welfare part of disability who get between
$600 and $800 a month, simply because of factors that leave them
disabled. Now there are homeless people on the streets (or 6 feet
under if they choose that as the lesser of two evils) because of it.
I hardly ever encounter anyone like Alt. While there are a lot of
people like that, they are a very rare breed.
I gave away my American flag, because it doesn't represent what it did
when I bought it. If the U.S. values change and we are moving in the
right direction again, then I will gladly have pride in this country.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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journey wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:29:45 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
""Alt-Ctrl-Del\"@________------------{{{{ }}}}.net"> wrote:
Jupiter, in America, having pride in your country is not considered
narrow minded.
Believe me, Jupiter, he's over-generalizing. Also, there are
semantics involved. A lot of people have pride in America
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America? I did not think that the English could determine who people in
America are? I thought it was all so very confusing? Why did you say
America, Journey?
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to, who are cringeing at what is happening now.
Journey
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Journey,
And you are not from America either Journey, so here we have yet another
citizen of the U.K. assuming that they know better what Americans think
than Americans. Is this a pattern with the British? I take it to mean
Journey, that you feel that most Americans would never even consider
calling themselves Americans unless they were stupid or ignorant as
Jupiter seems to believe.
This is amusing how much either one of you actually do not understand
and yet seem so adamant that you are so very superior.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:47:23 GMT, "Jupiter Jones"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | You have now changed the word from "America" to "American", two totally
different words with different meanings.
The reference to years was referring to my experience with people in and
from the USA. Do not assume it is merely a reference to age.
Your seem to have more assumptions in this post of yours.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Dell ink Cartridges |
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:59:55 GMT, "Jim" <jimmylorx@neo.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you all for the information on Dell printer cartridges!
Jim,
Akron, Ohio USA
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LOL you made my day Jim :-)
By the way, I'll reiterate that it's worth checking Staples. The
manager there said they either have them or will soon.
Dell compatible, not Dell branded.
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| Quote: | journey wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:29:45 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
""Alt-Ctrl-Del\"@________------------{{{{ }}}}.net"> wrote:
Jupiter, in America, having pride in your country is not considered
narrow minded.
Believe me, Jupiter, he's over-generalizing. Also, there are
semantics involved. A lot of people have pride in America
America? I did not think that the English could determine who people in
America are? I thought it was all so very confusing? Why did you say
America, Journey?
or want
to, who are cringeing at what is happening now.
Journey
Journey,
And you are not from America either Journey, so here we have yet another
citizen of the U.K. assuming that they know better what Americans think
than Americans. Is this a pattern with the British? I take it to mean
Journey, that you feel that most Americans would never even consider
calling themselves Americans unless they were stupid or ignorant as
Jupiter seems to believe.
This is amusing how much either one of you actually do not understand
and yet seem so adamant that you are so very superior.
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Oh, I see. My mistake Journey. Evidently you are an American, if I may
call you that without offending you. My mistake, sorry about that.
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:23:10 GMT, "(Ctrl¤+/Alt+¤/Del¤+)"
<""Alt-Ctrl-Del\"@________------------{{{{ }}}}.net"> wrote:
| Quote: | You did, it seems as if you posted quite a lengthy political poem
Journey. Do you not consider poems to be political?
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Oh well, I changed my mind.
From a strictly technical standpoint, did you appreciate the poem? Not
content.
There are three things I said that I would never be able to do in this
lifetime because I am painfully shy:
1) Write poetry (done that)
2) Dance in front of people (not yet, I'm petrified of that, I really
want to and envy those I can.
3) Well, this would be TMI lol
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