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Jack H
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 Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: SATA Drives |
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I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive? |
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Joel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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Jack H wrote:
| Quote: | I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Serial ATA is the new standard for drives. Your IDE drives can not work |
with the new SATA drives on the same cable. But you can add it to the
IDE channel for the optical drives, as long as you have a space on the
cable. As I understand the SATA drives spin at the same 7200 RPM but the
transfer rate is faster. |
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Paul Knudsen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com>
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| Quote: | I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
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No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
| Quote: | Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine. |
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Joel
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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Paul Knudsen wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com
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I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine.
You have to be very careful many only have 1 IDE channel for the optical |
drives, and maybe a floppy connector. |
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com
wrote:
I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
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Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2) opticals
installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in the
5.25" bay. That's un-good.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Stew |
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Tom Scales
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com
wrote:
I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2)
opticals installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in
the 5.25" bay. That's un-good.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Stew
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Or a USB2 case. I think that is the easiest and cleanest. |
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hdrdtd
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
news:7434s1ln7e2pfmms6gnk41vv08llp36j0k@4ax.com...
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com
wrote:
I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2)
opticals installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in
the 5.25" bay. That's un-good.
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One possibility that I heard someone else use, was to mount the IDE HD where
the floppy drive normally goes. Evidently they physically fit, and there's a
good chance it puts it close enough to the optical drive to share it's
cable.
Other than that, I agree, buy a external USB case for it for around $50 and
install it in that.
Clean, quick, and simple.
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A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Stew
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"Ted Zieglar" <teddy.z@notmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Depending on the model of computer, it may not be possible to fit an IDE
hard drive into the space occupied by the floppy drive. Don't ask how I
know
this. Let's just say it has to do with an incident that doesn't cast a
favorable light on my hardware skills.
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Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."
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Heh.
Additionally, the new Dell cases have the hard disks connects (facing the
removable cover like some Gateways I've seen) at 90 degrees from the floppy
and optical drives.
The hard disk bays are at the very bottom of the case while obviously the
opticals are up top.
Glad externals were brought up, because I personally would prefer that to a
controller card by a long shot.
Stew |
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Ted Zieglar
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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Depending on the model of computer, it may not be possible to fit an IDE
hard drive into the space occupied by the floppy drive. Don't ask how I know
this. Let's just say it has to do with an incident that doesn't cast a
favorable light on my hardware skills.
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Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."
"hdrdtd" <timdrouillard@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:36:41 GMT, "Jack H" <jhard8186@mindspring.com
wrote:
I am beginning to think about replacing my Dimension 4400. What is the
difference between an IDE harddrive and a SATA drive? Are the
interchangeable?
No, but a new desktop today should come with both SATA and IDE
connections on the motherboard. But check to make sure.
Can my old IDE drive be removed and installed as a second drive in a
new
computer, with a SATA drive?
Should be fine.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2)
opticals installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX
configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned
near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in
the 5.25" bay. That's un-good.
One possibility that I heard someone else use, was to mount the IDE HD
where
the floppy drive normally goes. Evidently they physically fit, and there's
a
good chance it puts it close enough to the optical drive to share it's
cable.
Other than that, I agree, buy a external USB case for it for around $50
and
install it in that.
Clean, quick, and simple.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Stew
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John Pezzano
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"hdrdtd" <timdrouillard@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Other than that, I agree, buy a external USB case for it for around $50
and
install it in that.
Clean, quick, and simple.
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$50? Are you kidding? If you can't find one delivered for under $25, you
aren't looking hard enough. I had my old win98 drive and added it with a $25
(shipped price) USB box. Works great. Makes a good backup drive too.
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"John Pezzano" <jpezz@myway.com> wrote in message
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"hdrdtd" <timdrouillard@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Other than that, I agree, buy a external USB case for it for around $50
and
install it in that.
Clean, quick, and simple.
$50? Are you kidding? If you can't find one delivered for under $25, you
aren't looking hard enough. I had my old win98 drive and added it with a
$25 (shipped price) USB box. Works great. Makes a good backup drive too.
John
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Not doubting your assertion, but I'm surprised you didn't link an example
for the OP given your level of confidence. g
Stew |
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Paul Knudsen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:31:21 -0600, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com>
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Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2) opticals
installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in the
5.25" bay. That's un-good.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
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Interesting. Well I did urge the OP to check first.
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:31:21 -0600, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com
wrote:
Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2)
opticals
installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in
the
5.25" bay. That's un-good.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Interesting. Well I did urge the OP to check first.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
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Yes, sir. Yes you did.
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Pat Patterson
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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I bought an IDE to SATA adapter and put the drive in the second floppy
slot, sans the 13 in 1 memory...
Works like a champ
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Paul Knudsen wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:31:21 -0600, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com
wrote:
Almost all of the new Dells have only (1) IDE channel, and that is (what
used to be) IDE2 for the optical drives. If the new system has (2) opticals
installed, there's no way to connect an IDE hard disk.
Additionally, even if there's only (1) optical, the new BTX configuration
and the physical position of the drives make it impossible (or darned near
so) to connect an IDE hard disk unless one only partially secures it in the
5.25" bay. That's un-good.
A IDE PCI controller card might be a consideration.
Interesting. Well I did urge the OP to check first. |
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S.Lewis
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: SATA Drives |
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"Pat Patterson" <vipatter@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I bought an IDE to SATA adapter and put the drive in the second floppy
slot, sans the 13 in 1 memory...
Works like a champ
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There's an option I'd not considered.......
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