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Zentraleinheit
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 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: On board audio problems |
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Just as I thought the problems with my Chaintech S1689 MB was over, another
has croped up.
I can't seem to record via the microphone.
The sound I get (even if I am not talking into the Microphone/or its off
sounds like a old Super 8 movie projector
Then I updated the drivers from the Realtek web site.
I still get the "projector" sound.
I pluged the Microphone into the correct jack, I have tried various setting
in record control (sliders all the way up/down - selecting between Mono
Mix/
Stereo Mix/Microphone Balance) but I still get the noise..
Is there something I am missing?
Is there an answer?
Am I even in the right NG to even ask? |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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Have you switched on the pre amp?
In the sound control panel switch on ADVANCED controls via the FILE menu
then hit the advanced button on the mic input slider control and check the
20db boost box then adjust bass and treble.
Does this help?
"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Just as I thought the problems with my Chaintech S1689 MB was over,
another
has croped up.
I can't seem to record via the microphone.
The sound I get (even if I am not talking into the Microphone/or its off
sounds like a old Super 8 movie projector
Then I updated the drivers from the Realtek web site.
I still get the "projector" sound.
I pluged the Microphone into the correct jack, I have tried various
setting
in record control (sliders all the way up/down - selecting between Mono
Mix/
Stereo Mix/Microphone Balance) but I still get the noise..
Is there something I am missing?
Is there an answer?
Am I even in the right NG to even ask?
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | check the 20db boost box
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My seems to only offer 1db boost
| Quote: | adjust bass and treble
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There grayed out
No - except that with the boost box is un checked there is no more humming
being recoreded. Now there is no sound at being recorded as all. |
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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UPDATE
After some fooling around I pluged my Microphone into the "Line-IN" socket.
It (kind of) works.
If I select "line-in," and slide the control all the way up in Recording
Control, I can record. But unless I shout the recording is week.
I can also record if I select "mono mix" or "stereo mix" But, while I don't
have to shout as loud to get a recording, there is a backround buzz.
Also, when it come to hearing audio in general, I found that if I change the
"environment" setting in the Sound Effect manager in control panel I get
somewhat louder audio.
So, Now that I have something, is there a way to make it better? |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | UPDATE
After some fooling around I pluged my Microphone into the "Line-IN"
socket.
It (kind of) works.
If I select "line-in," and slide the control all the way up in Recording
Control, I can record. But unless I shout the recording is week.
I can also record if I select "mono mix" or "stereo mix" But, while I
don't
have to shout as loud to get a recording, there is a backround buzz.
Also, when it come to hearing audio in general, I found that if I change
the
"environment" setting in the Sound Effect manager in control panel I get
somewhat louder audio.
So, Now that I have something, is there a way to make it better?
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What kind of microphone is it? Its not a "balanced" mic is it because that
would display the symptoms you get as you are plugging into an unbalanced
input.
Just a thought! |
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | What kind of microphone is it?
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It a Labtec AM-22.
| Quote: | Its not a "balanced" mic is it because that would display the symptoms you
get as you are plugging into an unbalanced input. |
I Have no idea- I'll have to look it up
I assume that by "unbalance input" you mean the "line-in" jack.
And BTW what is a "balance" mic?
I have never run into any recording problems on my old ISA 8-bit sound card. |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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A balanced mic is a mic with an extra "earth" wire normally used in pro
recording
If its a cheap mic with just a 3.5mm jack on the end then its probably
unbalanced but if it has a quarter inch jack plug on it then it could be
wired "balanced" and would cause the problems you mention
If you have no other mic to test then you can use a pair of headphones to
test...just plug the headphones into the mic socket and talk into the
headset speakers
If it sounds a lot louder than your mic then its the mic thats the problem!
Have you tired using 3rd party recording software instead of windows stuff
to record?
Like cool edit pro now called adobe audition
or if not try acoustica.com and download the free trial of their "mp3 mixer"
software and try that
all the sockets on your soundcard are unbalanced!
"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What kind of microphone is it?
It a Labtec AM-22.
Its not a "balanced" mic is it because that would display the symptoms you
get as you are plugging into an unbalanced input.
I Have no idea- I'll have to look it up
I assume that by "unbalance input" you mean the "line-in" jack.
And BTW what is a "balance" mic?
I have never run into any recording problems on my old ISA 8-bit sound
card.
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | If its a cheap mic with just a 3.5mm jack on the end
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Its Maybe just me, but, $9.99 is not cheap :-), but, it does have a 3.5mm
jack.
| Quote: | If you have no other mic to test then you can use a pair of headphones to
test... |
I can't find my headphones, but, I did plug the Mic into my laptop computer.
No problems - A got a full rich recording.
| Quote: | Have you tired using 3rd party recording software instead of windows stuff
to record? |
In place of Windows own "Sound Recorder" I have used the sound chip makers
(realtek) own recorder, and others from Willow Pond, Nero, and ACID.
They are all the same, unless the Mic is in the "Line-in" jack and that
"line-in" in checked in "recording control," I either get nothing or static.
Maybe I should try to get batteries for my speaker? For while week the
recording(s) made sound clear.
While in the past I did not need to have them powered to use them, maybe the
design of the MB's audio chip make a power speaker necessary.
And, if this is of any additional help, I find that nothing is listed as
being connected under the "connector sensing" tab of the AC97 Audio
Configuration Manager Application in Control Panel .
If I try to run "connection setting" by clicking on Start. I get a message
to "please stop other audio applications before starting." Then when I click
"OK" a other window called ALSNDMGR appears with the message "Initialzation
failed!"
I hope that you, or someone in cyberspace" can find an answer. |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:53 am Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If its a cheap mic with just a 3.5mm jack on the end
Its Maybe just me, but, $9.99 is not cheap :-), but, it does have a 3.5mm
jack.
If you have no other mic to test then you can use a pair of headphones to
test...
I can't find my headphones, but, I did plug the Mic into my laptop
computer.
No problems - A got a full rich recording.
Have you tired using 3rd party recording software instead of windows stuff
to record?
In place of Windows own "Sound Recorder" I have used the sound chip makers
(realtek) own recorder, and others from Willow Pond, Nero, and ACID.
They are all the same, unless the Mic is in the "Line-in" jack and that
"line-in" in checked in "recording control," I either get nothing or
static.
Maybe I should try to get batteries for my speaker? For while week the
recording(s) made sound clear.
While in the past I did not need to have them powered to use them, maybe
the
design of the MB's audio chip make a power speaker necessary.
And, if this is of any additional help, I find that nothing is listed as
being connected under the "connector sensing" tab of the AC97 Audio
Configuration Manager Application in Control Panel .
If I try to run "connection setting" by clicking on Start. I get a message
to "please stop other audio applications before starting." Then when I
click
"OK" a other window called ALSNDMGR appears with the message
"Initialzation
failed!"
I hope that you, or someone in cyberspace" can find an answer.
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I had a look on google and the general opinion is that the mic input on pcs
is just crap.
What you would be better doing is plug the mic into something else that has
line outs like a video recorder or a cassette recorder etc and then run the
signal via line out to line in on the pc.
That way your mic is getting a certain amount of pre amplification and would
sound the way you wanted.
You could even run a cable out of your laptop and into your pc!
Oh and your mic will not be at fault because it will be unbalanced. He he
the PLUG on a balanced mic would probably cost more than $9.99
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | and the general opinion is that the mic input on pcs is just crap.
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Does that go for all PC's or just those with on board audio?
For, as I said before, I had NO problem when I used this Mic with my old ISA
8-bit sound card.
| Quote: | That way your mic is getting a certain amount of pre amplification and
would sound the way you wanted. |
Is that the same as "turning on" the Mic boost under Microphone's Advance
button ?
For it it is all that does is turn up the static.
I also been asking this same question to Chaintech. In there wisdom (and
after 2 week) there grand answer was:
"Suggest use with the Windows 2000 or Windows XP try again"
I told them that I had time to make Mr. Gates a little bit richer :-)))
Then thay came back saying that I must make sure that Microphone is selected
in Recording Property!
I don't think I'm THAT dumb.
BTW what do you think about the problem of when I go to the "connector
sensing" tab of the AC97 Audio Configuration Manager Application in Control
Panel. I find that nothing is listed as being connected
And If I try to run "connection setting" by clicking on Start. I get a
message to "please stop other audio applications before starting." Then when
I click "OK" a other window called ALSNDMGR appears with the message
"Initialzation failed
I am just wondering that on some strange level of Computer Hell that my
problem can be put down to the computer not "seeing" the Microphone?
It would not be that strange, for when I first turn on the new motherboard
it did not notice that I had a ATI video card for a week. And then only
after reinstalling Windows. |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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Tell you what you could try
1. Uninsstall ALL the audio software incl drivers and any software that came
with the soundcard
2. Reinstall the driver only by using device manager to look for the driver
on the disc
3. Then use ONLY 3rd party software
I use an Audigy card and when their own software is loaded it takes over in
the sense that if I am using cool edit pro to record and the levels are low
i have to open the audigy`s own recorder software and turn the levels up on
that before i have any control in cool edit.
That should not happen as cool edit should directly access the soundcards
volume but it does!!!!
"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | and the general opinion is that the mic input on pcs is just crap.
Does that go for all PC's or just those with on board audio?
For, as I said before, I had NO problem when I used this Mic with my old
ISA
8-bit sound card.
That way your mic is getting a certain amount of pre amplification and
would sound the way you wanted.
Is that the same as "turning on" the Mic boost under Microphone's Advance
button ?
For it it is all that does is turn up the static.
I also been asking this same question to Chaintech. In there wisdom (and
after 2 week) there grand answer was:
"Suggest use with the Windows 2000 or Windows XP try again"
I told them that I had time to make Mr. Gates a little bit richer :-)))
Then thay came back saying that I must make sure that Microphone is
selected
in Recording Property!
I don't think I'm THAT dumb.
BTW what do you think about the problem of when I go to the "connector
sensing" tab of the AC97 Audio Configuration Manager Application in
Control
Panel. I find that nothing is listed as being connected
And If I try to run "connection setting" by clicking on Start. I get a
message to "please stop other audio applications before starting." Then
when
I click "OK" a other window called ALSNDMGR appears with the message
"Initialzation failed
I am just wondering that on some strange level of Computer Hell that my
problem can be put down to the computer not "seeing" the Microphone?
It would not be that strange, for when I first turn on the new motherboard
it did not notice that I had a ATI video card for a week. And then only
after reinstalling Windows.
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | and the general opinion is that the mic input on pcs is just crap.
Does that go for all PC's or just those with on board audio?
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Probably.....I think they asume if you want to do a lot of recording by mic
you will buy a proper soundcard
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For, as I said before, I had NO problem when I used this Mic with my old
ISA
8-bit sound card.
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yes like all stuff they were great "at first" my old chaintech board from 99
a bx440 has the best onboard sound I ever heard but these days its none too
good on any boards I have heard
| Quote: | That way your mic is getting a certain amount of pre amplification and
would sound the way you wanted.
Is that the same as "turning on" the Mic boost under Microphone's Advance
button ?
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No it will be FAR superior
| Quote: | For it it is all that does is turn up the static.
I also been asking this same question to Chaintech. In there wisdom (and
after 2 week) there grand answer was:
"Suggest use with the Windows 2000 or Windows XP try again"
I told them that I had time to make Mr. Gates a little bit richer :-)))
Then thay came back saying that I must make sure that Microphone is
selected
in Recording Property!
I don't think I'm THAT dumb.
BTW what do you think about the problem of when I go to the "connector
sensing" tab of the AC97 Audio Configuration Manager Application in
Control
Panel. I find that nothing is listed as being connected
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Is this the case even when you have a mic connected? It doesnt mean the
sound "input" socket is not connected it means that no "external" devices
are connected
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And If I try to run "connection setting" by clicking on Start. I get a
message to "please stop other audio applications before starting." Then
when
I click "OK" a other window called ALSNDMGR appears with the message
"Initialzation failed
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YEP that DOES sound like a software problem
| Quote: | I am just wondering that on some strange level of Computer Hell that my
problem can be put down to the computer not "seeing" the Microphone?
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heres another thing........I have had the problem on many soundcards where i
could only get sound from one channel because the actual pin on the 3.5mm
jack wasnt long enbough to make a full connection into the socket...using a
different plug slightly longer would cure it!!!??? It was a "common" thing
at the time!
| Quote: | It would not be that strange, for when I first turn on the new motherboard
it did not notice that I had a ATI video card for a week. And then only
after reinstalling Windows.
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That could be a faulty install on windows maybe due to the cd rom not
reading the disc correctly....again I have come across incompatibility
between cd roms and dvd roms which wont play discs recorded on differnt
machines because the lasers were calibrated slightly different on the 2
cd/dvd roms!
maybe you need a new install disc? or try loading it from a different cd rom
or dvd rom
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Zentraleinheit
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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| Quote: | 2. Reinstall the driver only by using device manager to look for the driver
on the disc |
I did try somthing along those lines, but, the drivers will not install
without Realtec own audio player.
Plus, when I manually use device manager to point to every folder\file on
the CD. The reply each time was that "no drivers are present."
Also, In one last test, I made a recording to a Floppy and played in on my
laptop. Then I made a recording on my laptop and played it on the desktop.
The recording from the desktop (using line-in) was weak and strachy, but,
hearable.
The recording form the laptop was clear and somewhat stronger then its
desktop version.
However, in the end, I have given up.
Even downloading new drivers has not worked.
So, I am looking for a new sound card.
But, what ever happen to the "simple" ones?
All I need is Mic-in / Line-in /Line-Out / Speaker-out/ jacks and an
internal CD connector.
All this Bull about multi-channel/Digital/ audio does not interest me at
all.
As long as I can hear it - its OK by me. |
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Ginchy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: On board audio problems |
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"Zentraleinheit" <Zentraleinheit@Cop{REMOVE}per.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | 2. Reinstall the driver only by using device manager to look for the
driver
on the disc
I did try somthing along those lines, but, the drivers will not install
without Realtec own audio player.
Plus, when I manually use device manager to point to every folder\file on
the CD. The reply each time was that "no drivers are present."
Also, In one last test, I made a recording to a Floppy and played in on my
laptop. Then I made a recording on my laptop and played it on the desktop.
The recording from the desktop (using line-in) was weak and strachy, but,
hearable.
The recording form the laptop was clear and somewhat stronger then its
desktop version.
However, in the end, I have given up.
Even downloading new drivers has not worked.
So, I am looking for a new sound card.
But, what ever happen to the "simple" ones?
All I need is Mic-in / Line-in /Line-Out / Speaker-out/ jacks and an
internal CD connector.
All this Bull about multi-channel/Digital/ audio does not interest me at
all.
As long as I can hear it - its OK by me.
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I wonder if this would work.
Uninstall all drivers and software and then do a windows update and see if
the card is recognised and a driver provided?
Maybe you tried that?
A simple soundblaster card would be ideal for you......try and get a
soundblaster live .... a CT4810 or 4830 are both good cards and can be
picked up on ebay for peanuts. Its much better to have a seperate card
anyway as you are then using less sytem resources.
If you were in the uk I could have sent you one but I assume you are in usa
as you talked in $$$ |
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