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David W.E. Roberts
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

Hi,

wanting to copy some tracks off a CD onto my hard drive (MP3 or
uncompressed), then email them or transfer to another networked machine at
home.

Windows Media Player 7 will do the copy, but applies copy protection.

Is there a simple tool which works under Win2k to copy tracks and convert
the format?

TIA

Dave R

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

X-posted to more active NG :-)

Still struggling to find a decent free CD ripper.

"David W.E. Roberts" <nospam@talk21.com> wrote in message
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Hi,

wanting to copy some tracks off a CD onto my hard drive (MP3 or
uncompressed), then email them or transfer to another networked machine at
home.

Windows Media Player 7 will do the copy, but applies copy protection.

Is there a simple tool which works under Win2k to copy tracks and convert
the format?

TIA

Dave R

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Mike Richter
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Quote:
X-posted to more active NG :-)

Still struggling to find a decent free CD ripper.

"David W.E. Roberts" <nospam@talk21.com> wrote in message
news:c0r30j$1almg7$1@ID-122774.news.uni-berlin.de...

Hi,

wanting to copy some tracks off a CD onto my hard drive (MP3 or
uncompressed), then email them or transfer to another networked machine at
home.

Windows Media Player 7 will do the copy, but applies copy protection.

Is there a simple tool which works under Win2k to copy tracks and convert
the format?

If you want an excellent one, try Exact Audio Copy. Not the fastest but
the most accurate.

Linked from my WWW site.

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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

There is no better ripper than Exact Audio Copy (with the addition of the
Lame encoder for mp3).

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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Quote:
X-posted to more active NG :-)

Still struggling to find a decent free CD ripper.

"David W.E. Roberts" <nospam@talk21.com> wrote in message
news:c0r30j$1almg7$1@ID-122774.news.uni-berlin.de...
Hi,

wanting to copy some tracks off a CD onto my hard drive (MP3 or
uncompressed), then email them or transfer to another networked
machine at home.

Windows Media Player 7 will do the copy, but applies copy protection.

Is there a simple tool which works under Win2k to copy tracks and
convert the format?

TIA

Dave R

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Airman Basic
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

I rather like CDex.
http://www.cdex.n3.net/

David W.E. Roberts wrote:
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X-posted to more active NG :-)

Still struggling to find a decent free CD ripper.
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Eric Gisin
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

The vast majority of CDs rip OK with simple overlapped reads. CDex will do
this and encode to MP3 on the fly.

Exact Audio Copy is overkill for anything but damaged CDs.

Reviews at http://www.mp3-converter.com/

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
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There is no better ripper than Exact Audio Copy (with the addition of the
Lame encoder for mp3).

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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

CDex is a fine piece of programming, but the question title intimated that
copy protection was involved. If any ripper is going to access copy
protected discs it is going to be EAC. If EAC cannot get at the data, the
only alternatives are to use bit copiers or to record the analogue output in
realtime, neither of which is ultimately the equal of a correctly ripped
disc - but I guarantee that most listeners would not notice the
ifference - particularly if mp3 is going to be involved frown.


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Eric Gisin wrote:
Quote:
The vast majority of CDs rip OK with simple overlapped reads. CDex
will do this and encode to MP3 on the fly.

Exact Audio Copy is overkill for anything but damaged CDs.

Reviews at http://www.mp3-converter.com/

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
news:c16vv4$1eq1pv$1@ID-88807.news.uni-berlin.de...
There is no better ripper than Exact Audio Copy (with the addition
of the Lame encoder for mp3).

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Tim Kroesen
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

May I mention another great ripper and burner; Feurio. Doesn't offer an
elaborate 'compare' type mode like EAC; but when using a good reader and
good looking discs you rarely hit c2 errors; if so they are logged to
your attention for review; again most times inaudible... Great burn
engine, db capability, capacity tests, easy tools for assembling and
adjusting on the fly blip free audio discs. Free unrestricted demo at:
www.feurio.com

I like cDex too for super easy ripping *portions* of wav's to auto
decode mp3's; as to cut net friendly samples. EAC is a must have tool
for damaged discs that display many ripping errors, or those that are
audible; but not needed in most cases... Why indeed it had a 'paranoid'
mode...<g>

Tim K

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
CDex is a fine piece of programming, but the question title intimated
that
copy protection was involved. If any ripper is going to access copy
protected discs it is going to be EAC. If EAC cannot get at the data,
the
only alternatives are to use bit copiers or to record the analogue
output in
realtime, neither of which is ultimately the equal of a correctly
ripped
disc - but I guarantee that most listeners would not notice the
ifference - particularly if mp3 is going to be involved frown.


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Graham Mayor



Eric Gisin wrote:
The vast majority of CDs rip OK with simple overlapped reads. CDex
will do this and encode to MP3 on the fly.

Exact Audio Copy is overkill for anything but damaged CDs.

Reviews at http://www.mp3-converter.com/

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
news:c16vv4$1eq1pv$1@ID-88807.news.uni-berlin.de...
There is no better ripper than Exact Audio Copy (with the addition
of the Lame encoder for mp3).

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David W.E. Roberts
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
news:c18178$1g3e9e$2@ID-88807.news.uni-berlin.de...
Quote:
CDex is a fine piece of programming, but the question title intimated that
copy protection was involved. If any ripper is going to access copy
protected discs it is going to be EAC. If EAC cannot get at the data, the
only alternatives are to use bit copiers or to record the analogue output
in
realtime, neither of which is ultimately the equal of a correctly ripped
disc - but I guarantee that most listeners would not notice the
ifference - particularly if mp3 is going to be involved frown.

Graham,

the problem I (think I) encountered is that WMP inserts copy protection when
copying tracks from CD to hard disc (ripping) so that the tracks will only
play on your own PC (or an associated mobile device).

I don't think the source CD was copy protected (but I may be wrong).

Certainly I can duplicate the whole disc using MyDVD software.

So I think I just need a good ripper.

Many thanks to all who responded with suggestions - I will be trying them
out.

Cheers

Dave R
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Eric Gisin
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

Which version of WMP? In V9 it's an option you can disable. WMA is better than
MP3 for low bit rates on a mobile player.

"David W.E. Roberts" <nospam@talk21.com> wrote in message
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the problem I (think I) encountered is that WMP inserts copy protection when
copying tracks from CD to hard disc (ripping) so that the tracks will only
play on your own PC (or an associated mobile device).
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: Copying CD tracks to hard drive - copy protection Reply with quote

The protection is switchable in media Player, but you are right, there are
better rippers around.
If you are creating audio discs from this exercise do not compress to mp3 as
this degrades the sound. There is a no-loss wma compression option, but this
too is probably an answer to a problem you don't have.

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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Quote:
"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@noonehome.com> wrote in message
news:c18178$1g3e9e$2@ID-88807.news.uni-berlin.de...
CDex is a fine piece of programming, but the question title
intimated that copy protection was involved. If any ripper is going
to access copy protected discs it is going to be EAC. If EAC cannot
get at the data, the only alternatives are to use bit copiers or to
record the analogue output in realtime, neither of which is
ultimately the equal of a correctly ripped disc - but I guarantee
that most listeners would not notice the
ifference - particularly if mp3 is going to be involved frown.

Graham,

the problem I (think I) encountered is that WMP inserts copy
protection when copying tracks from CD to hard disc (ripping) so that
the tracks will only play on your own PC (or an associated mobile
device).

I don't think the source CD was copy protected (but I may be wrong).

Certainly I can duplicate the whole disc using MyDVD software.

So I think I just need a good ripper.

Many thanks to all who responded with suggestions - I will be trying
them out.

Cheers

Dave R
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