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Kevin H. Phillips
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 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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I've got a Thunder K8S Pro S2882 UGNR board with 1GB of RAM and dual
Opeteron processors. I've had 3 SCSI drives connected, a floppy, and
CD-ROM drive. At first I was having trouble powering it up but with
help from this newsgroup I found a power supply that would work.
Other problems cropped up. After it would power up, I could never enter
the BIOS Setup utility. If I would hit the Reset button, then there
would be no video display and the drive lights would be lit
continuously. I steadily disconnected the drives down to the point that
there is nothing but the board and the keyboard and mouse connected.
The mouse and keyboard are connected to a KVM switch into which is
connected another computer. The other computer (a workstation) works
fine with them.
At least now when I power up the S2882 there is a video display but the
keyboard and mouse do not seem to be active. I cannot hit <Del> to
enter Setup.
What things can I look for?
Thanks for any help.
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Martin Shoemaker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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I'd suggest bypassing the KVM and connecting the mouse and keyboard
directly to the K8S. The fact that the other computer works with the
KVM switch says nothing about whether the ports for the K8S are working.
One thing I've noticed with my K8SE is that it frequently doesn't
completely boot the first time when I push the power button. It seems
to hang in the middle of the memory test. If I then press the reset
button it boots properly. Since it works fine after the reset I haven't
tried to troubleshoot the problem.
Martin
Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
| Quote: | I've got a Thunder K8S Pro S2882 UGNR board with 1GB of RAM and dual
Opeteron processors. I've had 3 SCSI drives connected, a floppy, and
CD-ROM drive. At first I was having trouble powering it up but with
help from this newsgroup I found a power supply that would work.
Other problems cropped up. After it would power up, I could never
enter the BIOS Setup utility. If I would hit the Reset button, then
there would be no video display and the drive lights would be lit
continuously. I steadily disconnected the drives down to the point
that there is nothing but the board and the keyboard and mouse
connected. The mouse and keyboard are connected to a KVM switch into
which is connected another computer. The other computer (a
workstation) works fine with them.
At least now when I power up the S2882 there is a video display but
the keyboard and mouse do not seem to be active. I cannot hit <Del
to enter Setup.
What things can I look for?
Thanks for any help.
Kevin Phillips |
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Kevin H. Phillips
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Martin Shoemaker wrote:
| Quote: | I'd suggest bypassing the KVM and connecting the mouse and keyboard
directly to the K8S. The fact that the other computer works with the
KVM switch says nothing about whether the ports for the K8S are working.
One thing I've noticed with my K8SE is that it frequently doesn't
completely boot the first time when I push the power button. It seems
to hang in the middle of the memory test. If I then press the reset
button it boots properly. Since it works fine after the reset I haven't
tried to troubleshoot the problem.
Martin
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I just tried by-passing the KVM switch. Basically, the same thing
happens: video works but keyboard & mouse don't. The board is behaving
similarly to what you describe: at first, the video wouldn't even work
but when I hit Reset it the video came on but the keyboard & mouse still
would not function.
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Martin Shoemaker
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Next for me would be checking the memory. I initially bought Mushkin,
which had worked well for me on many earlier computers. Mushkin isn't
on the Tyan "tested memory" list, and the computer was very unstable and
was unusable. I changed to Crucial (also not on the Tyan list, but
Crucial guarantees their memory to work if you use their selection
program). The computer is now stable and always boots, although some
days it takes a reset to get it to fully boot. I suspect that that
problem is either temperature related (it seems to be less of a problem
on days when the room is cooler), or has to do with the the start-up
sequencing and/or initialization time(s) of the add-in card(s) -- I'm
running a Rocket Raid card, an M-Audio Revolution 5.1, and a Gigabyte
GT6600 video card.
Martin
Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
| Quote: | Martin Shoemaker wrote:
I'd suggest bypassing the KVM and connecting the mouse and keyboard
directly to the K8S. The fact that the other computer works with the
KVM switch says nothing about whether the ports for the K8S are working.
One thing I've noticed with my K8SE is that it frequently doesn't
completely boot the first time when I push the power button. It
seems to hang in the middle of the memory test. If I then press the
reset button it boots properly. Since it works fine after the reset
I haven't tried to troubleshoot the problem.
Martin
I just tried by-passing the KVM switch. Basically, the same thing
happens: video works but keyboard & mouse don't. The board is
behaving similarly to what you describe: at first, the video wouldn't
even work but when I hit Reset it the video came on but the keyboard &
mouse still would not function.
Kevin |
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Kevin H. Phillips
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Martin Shoemaker wrote:
| Quote: | Next for me would be checking the memory. I initially bought Mushkin,
which had worked well for me on many earlier computers. Mushkin isn't
on the Tyan "tested memory" list, and the computer was very unstable and
was unusable. I changed to Crucial (also not on the Tyan list, but
Crucial guarantees their memory to work if you use their selection
program). The computer is now stable and always boots, although some
days it takes a reset to get it to fully boot. I suspect that that
problem is either temperature related (it seems to be less of a problem
on days when the room is cooler), or has to do with the the start-up
sequencing and/or initialization time(s) of the add-in card(s) -- I'm
running a Rocket Raid card, an M-Audio Revolution 5.1, and a Gigabyte
GT6600 video card.
Martin
OK, I'll have to find some Crucial memory. I don't remember what brand |
is installed now.
Kevin |
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Martin Shoemaker
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Be sure to check warranty. I know that the Crucial "guaranteed to work"
warranty applies if you use their on-line selection tool and buy from
their web site. The warranty may be different if you buy anywhere else.
Martin
Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
| Quote: | Martin Shoemaker wrote:
Next for me would be checking the memory. I initially bought
Mushkin, which had worked well for me on many earlier computers.
Mushkin isn't on the Tyan "tested memory" list, and the computer was
very unstable and was unusable. I changed to Crucial (also not on
the Tyan list, but Crucial guarantees their memory to work if you use
their selection program). The computer is now stable and always
boots, although some days it takes a reset to get it to fully boot.
I suspect that that problem is either temperature related (it seems
to be less of a problem on days when the room is cooler), or has to
do with the the start-up sequencing and/or initialization time(s) of
the add-in card(s) -- I'm running a Rocket Raid card, an M-Audio
Revolution 5.1, and a Gigabyte GT6600 video card.
Martin
OK, I'll have to find some Crucial memory. I don't remember what
brand is installed now.
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Kevin H. Phillips
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Martin Shoemaker wrote:
| Quote: | Next for me would be checking the memory. I initially bought Mushkin,
which had worked well for me on many earlier computers. Mushkin isn't
on the Tyan "tested memory" list, and the computer was very unstable and
was unusable. I changed to Crucial (also not on the Tyan list, but
Crucial guarantees their memory to work if you use their selection
program). The computer is now stable and always boots, although some
days it takes a reset to get it to fully boot. I suspect that that
problem is either temperature related (it seems to be less of a problem
on days when the room is cooler), or has to do with the the start-up
sequencing and/or initialization time(s) of the add-in card(s) -- I'm
running a Rocket Raid card, an M-Audio Revolution 5.1, and a Gigabyte
GT6600 video card.
Martin
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Sorry it has taken me awhile to get back to this. I just ordered a 1GB
stick of Crucial memory from their Web site and installed it. The
result was the same: the computer starts up OK and recognizes the
memory but the keyboard and mouse do not seem to be active. I cannot
press DEL to enter Setup or Ctrl + A to enter the SCSI utility. (This
is with everything except harddrives disconnected--there's no OS on
them--and with keyboard & mouse plugged directly into the Tyan machine
bypassing the KVM switch.) What other options might I check?
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Martin Shoemaker
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| Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Kevin,
Not many ideas left.
I looked up the manual at the Tyan site:
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2882_102.pdf
I'd clear CMOS just to be sure. See section 2.05 on page 13. Next I'd
check the keylock jumper, section 2.14 on page 17. Actually, I'd
probably go through an verify that all jumpers were in default
positions. The only step beyond that would be disconnect the drives,
too. ... and maybe ask someone else to check the jumpers -- I've been
known to overlook things that a fresh set of eyes can see easily.
Wish I had more to offer.
Martin
Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
| Quote: | Martin Shoemaker wrote:
Next for me would be checking the memory. I initially bought
Mushkin, which had worked well for me on many earlier computers.
Mushkin isn't on the Tyan "tested memory" list, and the computer was
very unstable and was unusable. I changed to Crucial (also not on
the Tyan list, but Crucial guarantees their memory to work if you use
their selection program). The computer is now stable and always
boots, although some days it takes a reset to get it to fully boot.
I suspect that that problem is either temperature related (it seems
to be less of a problem on days when the room is cooler), or has to
do with the the start-up sequencing and/or initialization time(s) of
the add-in card(s) -- I'm running a Rocket Raid card, an M-Audio
Revolution 5.1, and a Gigabyte GT6600 video card.
Martin
Sorry it has taken me awhile to get back to this. I just ordered a
1GB stick of Crucial memory from their Web site and installed it. The
result was the same: the computer starts up OK and recognizes the
memory but the keyboard and mouse do not seem to be active. I cannot
press DEL to enter Setup or Ctrl + A to enter the SCSI utility. (This
is with everything except harddrives disconnected--there's no OS on
them--and with keyboard & mouse plugged directly into the Tyan machine
bypassing the KVM switch.) What other options might I check?
Kevin |
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Kevin H. Phillips
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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Martin Shoemaker wrote:
| Quote: | Kevin,
Not many ideas left.
I looked up the manual at the Tyan site:
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2882_102.pdf
I'd clear CMOS just to be sure. See section 2.05 on page 13. Next I'd
check the keylock jumper, section 2.14 on page 17. Actually, I'd
probably go through an verify that all jumpers were in default
positions. The only step beyond that would be disconnect the drives,
too. ... and maybe ask someone else to check the jumpers -- I've been
known to overlook things that a fresh set of eyes can see easily.
Wish I had more to offer.
Martin
Well, I finally had time to check the jumpers. I cleared the CMOS. The |
keylock jumper is open (default). Actually, those were the only two I
checked. The drives were all disconnected. Still the same problem:
the machine fires up but I can't enter Setup of the SCSI Select Utility
(maybe that wouldn't work anyway unless the drives were connected???).
So, I guess that's about the end of this trail. My next step will
probably be to buy a pre-built server. I'm wearing myself out trying to
troubleshoot my own creations! Now I know how Dr. Frankenstein felt!
Thanks for the help and Happy New Year!
Kevin |
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Sam White
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: S2882 won't enter Setup |
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"Kevin H. Phillips" <kh-phillips@9-5usa.org> wrote in message
news:41jiq1F1enpn1U1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Martin Shoemaker wrote:
Kevin,
Not many ideas left.
I looked up the manual at the Tyan site:
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2882_102.pdf
I'd clear CMOS just to be sure. See section 2.05 on page 13. Next I'd
check the keylock jumper, section 2.14 on page 17. Actually, I'd
probably go through an verify that all jumpers were in default positions.
The only step beyond that would be disconnect the drives, too. ... and
maybe ask someone else to check the jumpers -- I've been known to
overlook things that a fresh set of eyes can see easily.
Wish I had more to offer.
Martin
Well, I finally had time to check the jumpers. I cleared the CMOS. The
keylock jumper is open (default). Actually, those were the only two I
checked. The drives were all disconnected. Still the same problem: the
machine fires up but I can't enter Setup of the SCSI Select Utility (maybe
that wouldn't work anyway unless the drives were connected???). So, I
guess that's about the end of this trail. My next step will probably be
to buy a pre-built server. I'm wearing myself out trying to troubleshoot
my own creations! Now I know how Dr. Frankenstein felt!
Thanks for the help and Happy New Year!
Kevin
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Have you tried using a USB keyboard on the computer?
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