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Autymn D. C.
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 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
-Aut |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Tell him to get a decent PC and run GNU/Linux on it.
Some 300 liveCDs here....
http://www.livecdlist.com
Quantian liveCD for example has xmaxima that allows
symbolic maths manipulation for physics students.
All free, open source and done up by techies. |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflav
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
| Quote: | Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
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AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
| Quote: | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
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The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
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http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/ |
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TravelinMan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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In article <1128362663.466462.35010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" <cwocwocwo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Oh, look. Another of Bill Gates' minions who has never used a Mac.
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About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer. |
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Nicholas Buenk
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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"Autymn D. C." <lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1128346178.557165.60350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
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Intel gives computer markers a whole chipset and cpu together in one
package, it's a saving for them, when if you go AMD you need to make a
seperate deal with the chipset makers. This mainly applies to notebooks, the
whole centrino thing is a very good deal for computer markers.
That's a weird opinion.
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Nicholas Buenk
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:qUd0f.120964$G8.8728@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| Quote: | Autymn D. C. wrote:
Tell him to get a decent PC and run GNU/Linux on it.
Some 300 liveCDs here....
http://www.livecdlist.com
Quantian liveCD for example has xmaxima that allows
symbolic maths manipulation for physics students.
All free, open source and done up by techies.
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Linux is a pain in the ***, it makes doing things that should be simple into
a huge google search and study of config files. If OSX is released for
generic PC's, I think it will be a linux killer. |
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Nicholas Buenk
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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"Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" <cwocwocwo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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If you want both of these at the same time, OSX is the way.
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About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
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Actually Intel isn't really that good with interger or floating point
performance. What they are good at is vector performance, important for
things like vidoe encoding. And anyway, I'd argue that interger performance
is of lower importance today, as most tasks a computer does can be done
equally well on 5 year old hardware. It's vector and floating point
performance that still drives demand for more powerful CPU's.
Right, but OSX does have excellent support for all manner of mice, with
support for multiple buttons, scroll wheel and right click context menus.
Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
compared to windows. |
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Uncle Al
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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"Autymn D. C." wrote:
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Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
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Amen. Dig the dual-core Opterons - 32- and 64-bit compatible, x86
compatible, low power consumption, faster throughput, vastly larger
memory bandwidth with controller on-chip... and cheaper than the Intel
competition.
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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Autymn D. C.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
| Quote: | If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
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Yes, I can open and shut windows easily. And Linux can delete itself
fast and well!
| Quote: | About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
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Which computer do you suggest?
| Quote: | AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
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Intel is a fourth to a third worse than AMD in work and waste, at
similar speeds and retail prices. Kill CISC now. Intel is a criminal.
Macs should've always been IBM-AMD mates:
http://systemshootouts.org/processors.html.
| Quote: | The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
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I've used one-button and three-button rolling mouses, the three-button
trackball, the two-button scrolling sliding mouse, and the one-button
trackpad. If you weren't a Weeny, you would know that the MacOS is
made to be faster with one button. But you're clueless about a tool
that does many functions at once. Learn the hold-click, and you'll not
go back.
| Quote: | I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
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There are no companies that make better computers. Apples aren't even
Personal Computers, in the way of doling out to personnel, but Intimate
Computers, in the way of a sculpted killer tool.
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All flames go to^
-Aut |
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Autymn D. C.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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7 wrote:
| Quote: | Autymn D. C. wrote:
Tell him to get a decent PC and run GNU/Linux on it.
Some 300 liveCDs here....
http://www.livecdlist.com
Quantian liveCD for example has xmaxima that allows
symbolic maths manipulation for physics students.
All free, open source and done up by techies.
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Where are the reviews? Can they compete with
<http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=software+OR+programs+%22upgrades+for+life%22+OR+%22free+lifetime+upgrades%22>?
ICs (Intimate Computers, Mac*s, Power*s) can run over 18 OSes,
especially the good ones well. They can also take expansion cards to
use other chipsets and run however many OSes /they/ can, but with fewer
good ones well.
-Aut |
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George Graves
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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In article <43417aaf$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
"Nicholas Buenk" <morn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
<snip>
| Quote: | Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
compared to windows.
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Don't you just love uninformed opinions? |
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Bill Davidsen
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
--
bill davidsen
SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center
http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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The substrate doesn't matter. Just as long as it lets you communicate
with other fellow neurons, the whole will form the Global Brain. Any
means to an end. |
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Rgdawson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
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ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
| Quote: | It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
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Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer. |
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Roy Culley
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
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begin risky.vbs
<ACh0f.48$eW3.4718@news.uswest.net>,
Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> writes:
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ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
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You are a despicable liar.
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=41937&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937#What%27s+Included>
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Message-ID: <tB7Oe.182$yo7.65@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
I am connected to the Net using a Linksys WRT54G router. I don't
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