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Markymark
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:43 am    Post subject: which one to get? Reply with quote

I'm looking for a DVD +/- R/RW. These two seem to be a pretty good
value. Which one should I get?

Plextor PX-708A
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/708A.html

or
Sony DRU510A
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=168328

Or perhaps there are others besides those two that you guys would
recommend?

Thanks for any feedback.
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Todd H.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

Markymark <a@a.a> writes:

Quote:
I'm looking for a DVD +/- R/RW. These two seem to be a pretty good
value. Which one should I get?

Plextor PX-708A
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/708A.html

I'm staring at a 708A that's performed quite admirably for me. I
selected it based on the strength of the tomshardware.com review on
it
http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20031121/index.html

I have no regrets with the purchase. I do regret the number of
coasters with it out of my own stupidity trying to make some video
DVD's until I figured out the DVD video file hierchy format. Doh!


Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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Another Spellman Revision
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

Quote:
I have no regrets with the purchase. I do regret the number of
coasters with it out of my own stupidity trying to make some video
DVD's until I figured out the DVD video file hierchy format. Doh!


Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

How dumb are you?

Hey, I'm just kidding. Did the same thing as yourself and felt stupid when I
realised it was all so straightforward.

burn away.
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CAM
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:43:04 GMT, Markymark <a@a.a> wrote:

Quote:
I'm looking for a DVD +/- R/RW. These two seem to be a pretty good
value. Which one should I get?

Plextor PX-708A
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/708A.html

or
Sony DRU510A
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=168328

Or perhaps there are others besides those two that you guys would
recommend?

Thanks for any feedback.

None of the above.

Buy a pioneer a07 due out in the us next month and Aust the following
month.
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Bastet
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

CAM wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:43:04 GMT, Markymark <a@a.a> wrote:

I'm looking for a DVD +/- R/RW. These two seem to be a pretty good
value. Which one should I get?

Plextor PX-708A
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/708A.html

or
Sony DRU510A

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=168328

Or perhaps there are others besides those two that you guys would
recommend?

Thanks for any feedback.

None of the above.

Buy a pioneer a07 due out in the us next month and Aust the following
month.

Sony - no question.
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Markymark
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

Quote:

None of the above.

Buy a pioneer a07 due out in the us next month and Aust the following
month.

Can tell me more about the pioneer a07? How much better is it going to be?
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CAM
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:11:36 GMT, Markymark <a@a.a> wrote:

Quote:

None of the above.

Buy a pioneer a07 due out in the us next month and Aust the following
month.

Can tell me more about the pioneer a07? How much better is it going to be?

For a start it will read dvdram media.
It will burn dvd-r/+r at 1x, 2x, 4x, 6x and 8x.
The 6x burning option was added for those who don't have a fast enough
pc to keep up the data rate for 8x burning.

it will do dvd-rw at 1x, 2x and 4x and dvd+rw at 2.4x and 4x.

Due out in the usa in Dec if the dvd forum passes dvd-r 8x media and
dvd-rw 4x media. Comes out in oz in Jan of 04.

Pioneer press release here.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/press/release/detail/0,,2076_4313_30704192,00.html

Pioneer Introduces Fastest Multiple Format DVD/CD Writer On Market
Long Beach Nov 11, 2003
World’s first “8x8” dual format writer offers wide variety of features

Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc., the leader in recordable DVD
technology, today announced the DVR-A07, a new dual format DVD/CD
internal writer that offers the fastest write speeds possible and also
provides precision recording technology for consumers who demand it.

The DVR-A07 is the world’s first 8x8 dual format writer, meaning it is
capable of writing at 8x speed on DVD-R discs whose standard is being
ratified in the DVD Forum and +R discs that are designed for this
recording speed. The new drive also records high-speed DVD-RW and +RW
discs at up to 4x speed, and CD-R and CD-RW discs at up to 24x speed.
By supporting the DVD Forum’s DVD-R and DVD-RW disc formats as well as
the +R and +RW formats, Pioneer is helping to eliminate format
confusion, which has become a growing problem for potential buyers.

“With the launch of the industry’s first “8x8” dual format writer,
Pioneer is once again putting the needs of the user at the top of our
priority list,” said Andy Parsons, senior vice president of industrial
video and mass storage sales and marketing at Pioneer Electronics
(USA) Inc. “The DVR-A07 will save users valuable time by writing DVD
and CD discs as fast as recordable DVD technology allows at this
point. It also lets users focus on writing DVDs instead of worrying
about which disc format they need to buy.”

Pioneer engineers also focused on improving the writing/recording
quality and reliability for high-speed writing. New technology
accommodates for variances in blank media. Some of the technological
advancements include:

Pioneer-developed Liquid Crystal Control System for precise recording
onto the surface of discs that may be warped or of uneven thickness.
Smart Laser Driver to provide a precise laser pulse control and
achieve more reliable recording for high-speed writing.
Precision Recording Technology, which utilizes an auto-adjustable
writing technique to enable recording under the best conditions for
each disc characteristic at all times. This technology, first
introduced in the DVR-A06, enables the DVR-A07 to achieve optimal
initial writing performance and helps to minimize the normal
deterioration of re-recordable discs due to repeated writing. As a
result, the quality for repeatedly used DVD-RW discs is up to 10 times
better than previous writers.
A Defect Management System that enhances the writing reliability
further, while maintaining read compatibility with other DVD-ROM
drives, DVD players and DVD recorders.
An Ultra Dynamic Resonance Absorber that reduces vibrations that can
affect performance during high-speed recording and playback of some
discs. With this feature, the high precision servo system remains
stable during both high-speed recording and playback.
The DVR-A07 will also include an extensive collection of software
applications for video authoring, editing, DVD slide show creation,
and data recording.

The DVR-A07 is expected to be available in December pending the DVD
Forum’s approval of 8x write speed for DVD-R and 4x write speed for
DVD-RW.

Pioneer’s Professional Video Group is the leader and technical
innovator in optical disc technology for the industrial market. It is
a part of the Business Solutions Division, which provides professional
business-to-business products across a wide range of markets including
cable television, professional video/audio, educational, medical,
legal and banking.

Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. is headquartered in Long Beach, Calif.,
and its U.S. Web address is www.pioneerelectronics.com. Its parent
company, Pioneer Corporation, is a leader in optical disc technology
and a preeminent manufacturer of high-performance audio, video,
computer and cable equipment for the home, car and business markets.
The company focuses on four core business domains including DVD,
display technologies, Digital Network Entertainment and components.
Founded in 1938 in Tokyo, Pioneer Corporation employs more than 35,000
people worldwide. Its shares are traded on the New York Stock Exchange
(NYSE:PIO).
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Markymark
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

thanks for the info! :)

I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I'll think about it. Do you have any idea how much
that thing will cost? The press release doesn't mention a price.
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Todd H.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

Markymark <a@a.a> writes:

Quote:
thanks for the info! :)

I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I'll think about it. Do you
have any idea how much that thing will cost? The press release
doesn't mention a price.

In this industry, there will always be vaporware that's newer or
faster coming out in a few months...and when it finally is released,
you don't get to see if it's stable for a few weeks at least. DVD-RAM
capability is of debateable worth unless you have a prior investment
in that media...near as I can tell that format's dying because so few
players can read it, and the media costs several times that of
DVD+-RW.

Whether you should wait is dependent on your current needs. However,
that said, I've had a very very nice first-hand experience with my
Plextor PX-708A and have had the pleasure of burning over 20 disks (a
mix of DVD video on DVD+R media that play fine in my 2 year old
consumer Sony DVD player) and data backups with it with no problems.
It also came with decent software that has work reliably for me (EZ CD
Creator--kinda shocking since earlier versions of this program were a
pain in my butt...not so here).

The Sony is probably quite nice too, but it doesn't seem anyone is
stepping up with any detailed first hand experience on it. As for the
next big thing--expect to pay a premium on release, don't be surprised
with bugs, and don't be surprised if the killer feature that might
have caused you to wait might not be a feature you ever use.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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luminos
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

This is an idiot post with wrong conclusions based on biased and faulty
reasoning.

"Todd H." <comphelp@toddh.net> wrote in message
news:m0u14rvsrq.fsf@rcn.com...
Quote:
Markymark <a@a.a> writes:

thanks for the info! :)

I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I'll think about it. Do you
have any idea how much that thing will cost? The press release
doesn't mention a price.

In this industry, there will always be vaporware that's newer or
faster coming out in a few months...and when it finally is released,
you don't get to see if it's stable for a few weeks at least. DVD-RAM
capability is of debateable worth unless you have a prior investment
in that media...near as I can tell that format's dying because so few
players can read it, and the media costs several times that of
DVD+-RW.

Whether you should wait is dependent on your current needs. However,
that said, I've had a very very nice first-hand experience with my
Plextor PX-708A and have had the pleasure of burning over 20 disks (a
mix of DVD video on DVD+R media that play fine in my 2 year old
consumer Sony DVD player) and data backups with it with no problems.
It also came with decent software that has work reliably for me (EZ CD
Creator--kinda shocking since earlier versions of this program were a
pain in my butt...not so here).

The Sony is probably quite nice too, but it doesn't seem anyone is
stepping up with any detailed first hand experience on it. As for the
next big thing--expect to pay a premium on release, don't be surprised
with bugs, and don't be surprised if the killer feature that might
have caused you to wait might not be a feature you ever use.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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~misfit~
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

luminos wrote:

<top posting fixed>

Quote:
"Todd H." <comphelp@toddh.net> wrote in message
news:m0u14rvsrq.fsf@rcn.com...
Markymark <a@a.a> writes:

thanks for the info! :)

I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I'll think about it. Do you
have any idea how much that thing will cost? The press release
doesn't mention a price.

In this industry, there will always be vaporware that's newer or
faster coming out in a few months...and when it finally is released,
you don't get to see if it's stable for a few weeks at least.
DVD-RAM capability is of debateable worth unless you have a prior
investment in that media...near as I can tell that format's dying
because so few players can read it, and the media costs several
times that of DVD+-RW.

Whether you should wait is dependent on your current needs. However,
that said, I've had a very very nice first-hand experience with my
Plextor PX-708A and have had the pleasure of burning over 20 disks (a
mix of DVD video on DVD+R media that play fine in my 2 year old
consumer Sony DVD player) and data backups with it with no problems.
It also came with decent software that has work reliably for me (EZ
CD Creator--kinda shocking since earlier versions of this program
were a pain in my butt...not so here).

The Sony is probably quite nice too, but it doesn't seem anyone is
stepping up with any detailed first hand experience on it. As for
the next big thing--expect to pay a premium on release, don't be
surprised with bugs, and don't be surprised if the killer feature
that might have caused you to wait might not be a feature you ever
use.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

This is an idiot post with wrong conclusions based on biased and
faulty reasoning.

I disagree.

--
~misfit~
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Todd H.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

"luminos" <x@x.net> writes:
Quote:
This is an idiot post with wrong conclusions based on biased and
faulty reasoning.

Cool! Heck I didn't even realize I'd provided any conclusion for the
original poster.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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Markymark
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

thanks I've decided to get the Plextor 708a. The reviews on tomshardware
on both the 708a and the Sony one convinced me. The 708 sounds reliable,
fast, and is not too expensive.
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Rick Pali
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

"Markymark" <a@a.a> wrote:

Quote:
thanks I've decided to get the Plextor 708a. The reviews on
tomshardware on both the 708a and the Sony one convinced
me. The 708 sounds reliable, fast, and is not too expensive.

I made the same decision and am very pleased I did so...no regrets here.

Rick.
-+---
rpali@alienshore.com
http://www.alienshore.com/seeking/
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CAM
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: which one to get? Reply with quote

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:26:33 GMT, Markymark <a@a.a> wrote:

Quote:
thanks for the info! :)

I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I'll think about it. Do you have any idea how much
that thing will cost? The press release doesn't mention a price.

Less than the current pioneer a06 which is thenorm for new release
drives going on what's occured when the a03 was out an dthen the a04
to a05 then the a06 all cheaper than the current model at that time.
Can't see anthing changing when the a07 comes out.

I'll be moving up to it when 8x media comes out which is about the
same time the a07 gets released.
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