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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Thanks,
Ben

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

"Ben" <abcd@efg.com> wrote in message
news:biieom$9l21a$1@ID-121117.news.uni-berlin.de...
Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?



You should get a USB cable with the printer. If you don't, they all work
the same. The more expensive ones are less likely to break normally, and
may have better interference shielding over large distances.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

In article <biieom$9l21a$1@ID-121117.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Ben <abcd@efg.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Thanks,
Ben

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The cheapest one.



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Arno Wagner
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Ben <abcd@efg.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Unlikely. The USB specification is pretty specific about the
cable parameters. Just make sure it is an USB 2.0 cable if
the printer uses 2.0, I have ben having trouble with running
USB 2.0 iover a 1.1 cable, and no problems with a similar
looking USB2.0 cable (possibly from the same manufacturer).

Arno

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:21:10 -0500, Ben pondered exceedingly, then took quill in
hand and carefully composed...

| I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
| looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
| "Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
| usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
| to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
| else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
| at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Any cable that's USB 2.0 rated should be OK. As for Belkin being the "Rolls
Royce" of cables, I suspect the main source of such claims of superiority is
Belkin itself — or at least their advertising department. Frankly, I've usually
found their products to be overpriced in relation to real world quality.

Larc



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

Any USB 1.1 cable will work on USB 2.0. The spec guarantees this. There
were some out of spec USB 1.0 cables, but in general, if you buy a cable
today, don't be fooled by more expensive ones that are labled 2.0. Any 1.1
cable is the same as a 2.0 cable per the spec.

Marc Reinig
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"Ben" <abcd@efg.com> wrote in message
news:biieom$9l21a$1@ID-121117.news.uni-berlin.de...
Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Thanks,
Ben

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

"Ben" <abcd@efg.com> wrote in message
news:biieom$9l21a$1@ID-121117.news.uni-berlin.de...
Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Thanks,
Ben
snip...

Are you sure that the printer doesn't already come with a cable? It seems
that every time I buy some USB peripheral they throw a cable into the box.
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Al Dykes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

In article <mbkpkv03sm45puutb2eh05bapdien97dnq@4ax.com>,
Larc <larc_rnc@warmmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:21:10 -0500, Ben pondered exceedingly, then took
quill in hand and carefully composed...

| I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
| looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
| "Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
| usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
| to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
| else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
| at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Any cable that's USB 2.0 rated should be OK. As for Belkin being the "Rolls
Royce" of cables, I suspect the main source of such claims of superiority is
Belkin itself — or at least their advertising department. Frankly, I've usually
found their products to be overpriced in relation to real world quality.

Larc

I have friends that rave about Belkin support and customer service for
bigger things like KVM switches and I'm predisposed to them for this
reason, but I never expect to call support for a piece of wire.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

John McGaw wrote:
Quote:
I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the

[snip]

Quote:
snip...
Are you sure that the printer doesn't already come with a cable? It seems
that every time I buy some USB peripheral they throw a cable into the box.

According to the specs at
http://www.officedepot.com/txtSearchDD.do?searchTxt=431488&x=0&y=0 no
cable is included.

Thanks for everyone's response btw. I ordered the cable form overstock.
It was $11.50, but I got a $5 off coupon which with shipping made it $9.50.

regards,
Ben

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

Good to know. I have one of these out-of-spec cables, which I got with
an USB 1.0 hub. When I ran my external HDD over the cable`, I got so
mansy transmission errors, the kernel decided the HDD was unusable. No
such problem with the cable that came with the externam enclosure.

Arno

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Marc Reinig <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
Quote:
Any USB 1.1 cable will work on USB 2.0. The spec guarantees this. There
were some out of spec USB 1.0 cables, but in general, if you buy a cable
today, don't be fooled by more expensive ones that are labled 2.0. Any 1.1
cable is the same as a 2.0 cable per the spec.

Marc Reinig
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

Marc Reinig wrote:
Quote:
Any USB 1.1 cable will work on USB 2.0. The spec guarantees this. There
were some out of spec USB 1.0 cables, but in general, if you buy a cable
today, don't be fooled by more expensive ones that are labeled 2.0. Any 1.1
cable is the same as a 2.0 cable per the spec.

I just checked and according to the Samsung site its connectivity is USB
1.1. From what you said above I assume that the cables are then
interchangeable and the 2.0 one I ordered will work okay with it?

Thanks,
Ben

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

It should. The spec for USB 1.1 detachable cables yielded products that
were way over designed for the needs of 1.1. The USB 2.0 spec for cables is
virtually identical to the USB 1.1. This ensured that the infrastructure
for USB 2.0 (namely the cables) was backward compatible.

Marc Reinig
System Solutions

"Ben" <abcd@efg.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Marc Reinig wrote:
Any USB 1.1 cable will work on USB 2.0. The spec guarantees this.
There
were some out of spec USB 1.0 cables, but in general, if you buy a cable
today, don't be fooled by more expensive ones that are labeled 2.0. Any
1.1
cable is the same as a 2.0 cable per the spec.

I just checked and according to the Samsung site its connectivity is USB
1.1. From what you said above I assume that the cables are then
interchangeable and the 2.0 one I ordered will work okay with it?

Thanks,
Ben

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

Ben wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and am
looking to buy a USB cable. I have seen for example at Officedepot the
"Belkin" brand for around $25 which I understand is the Rolls Royce of
usb cables, but I am wondering if I could just as easily get a cheap one
to do the same thing without any difference in performance or anything
else? For example, I can get a "10-foot USB 2.0/1.0 A-B Cable" for $10
at overstock.com. Would I be losing out getting a cheaper cable here?

Thanks,
Ben

FWIW, Fry's here has 10' 2.0 cables on sale today for 2 bucks. Even

their regular price is less than $10.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

CJT wrote:
Quote:
FWIW, Fry's here has 10' 2.0 cables on sale today for 2 bucks. Even
their regular price is less than $10.

Online, their cheapest price is 5 dollars for a USB 6' cable. The
cheapest 10' USB 2.0 cable I could see on their site was $8.

Ben


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: which usb cable for laser printer? Reply with quote

I used one from newegg for about $6 postpaid. It works fine.


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