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Kompu Kid
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 Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:30 am Post subject: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a humming
background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups, however, did
not find any person discussing a similar problem.
I am wondering what I need to do, specifically, which equipment to
change in my current setup to get a quality audio file.
Here is a list of the equipment that I am using:
-- AMD ATHLON 2200 computer, 512 K RAM, SY-KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum
Edition) motherboard. (Here is more:
http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=46 )
-- On board CMI 8738 providing 6-channel audio
-- Sony TC-153SD cassette deck (here is an image I found on the
Internet: http://home.hccnet.nl/piet.blaas/sony.htm )
I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
Any advice is appreciated.
Deguza |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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Kompu Kid wrote:
| Quote: | Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a humming
background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups, however, did
not find any person discussing a similar problem.
I am wondering what I need to do, specifically, which equipment to
change in my current setup to get a quality audio file.
Here is a list of the equipment that I am using:
-- AMD ATHLON 2200 computer, 512 K RAM, SY-KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum
Edition) motherboard. (Here is more:
http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=46 )
-- On board CMI 8738 providing 6-channel audio
-- Sony TC-153SD cassette deck (here is an image I found on the
Internet: http://home.hccnet.nl/piet.blaas/sony.htm )
I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
Any advice is appreciated.
Deguza
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(e.g. cable broadband, TV card, etc.), try disconnecting it before
recording.
.... sounds like a ground loop to me, and cable is a likely source.
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Kompu Kid
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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Thanks for your reply.
I don't have a cable TV signal or broadband connected to the PC.
However, the computer is not directly connected to an outlet. It is
connected to a UPS. I wonder if the UPS is the culprit.
The UPS is then attached to a GFCI type of outlet.
Deguza |
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Richard Crowley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a humming
background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups,
however, did not find any person discussing a similar problem.
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Hum is a very very common problem.
| Quote: | I am wondering what I need to do, specifically, which equipment to
change in my current setup to get a quality audio file.
Here is a list of the equipment that I am using:
-- AMD ATHLON 2200 computer, 512 K RAM, SY-KT333 DRAGON Ultra
(Platinum
Edition) motherboard. (Here is more:
http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=46 )
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Unlikely it has anything to do with the CPU, motherboard,
etc.
Exactly which output connector are you using?
| Quote: | I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back
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Is it specifically the "Line Input"?
| Quote: | with the appropriate cabling.
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Describe your "appropriate cabling" along with what types
of connectors (and adaptors if used) at each end.
| Quote: | Any advice is appreciated.
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Do recordings on your computer "hum" with other sources
besides the cassette machine?
Does the output of the cassette machine sound clean (no hum)?
Does moving the cassette machine change the hum?
Where (exactly) do you have the power cords from the
computer and from the cassette machine plugged in? |
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Richard Crowley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124599451.813383.15060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Thanks for your reply.
I don't have a cable TV signal or broadband connected to the PC.
However, the computer is not directly connected to an outlet. It is
connected to a UPS. I wonder if the UPS is the culprit.
The UPS is then attached to a GFCI type of outlet.
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Plug the cassette machine and the PC into the same outlet
(whichever side of the UPS and/or GFCI it is). |
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Tim Martin
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
Any advice is appreciated.
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Try checking the Volume Control setting in your computer software, and turn
off all unused inputs.
Tim |
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Laurence Payne
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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| Quote: | I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
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Let's look at this connection in more detail.
The way to get audio from a tape player to a sound card is by
connecting Line Out to Line In. Anything else is a kludge.
Headphone Out is not Line Out. Mic In is not Line In. Before we
worry about ground loops, let's check that the basic connection is
correct.
Are you connecting outlets on the tape player marked Line Out
(probably a pair of phono sockets) to a port on the computer marked
Line In (probably a stereo 3.5mm jack)?
If the tape player doesn't have Line Out, obtain one that does. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a humming
background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups, however, did
not find any person discussing a similar problem.
I am wondering what I need to do, specifically, which equipment to
change in my current setup to get a quality audio file.
Here is a list of the equipment that I am using:
-- AMD ATHLON 2200 computer, 512 K RAM, SY-KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum
Edition) motherboard. (Here is more:
http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=46 )
-- On board CMI 8738 providing 6-channel audio
-- Sony TC-153SD cassette deck (here is an image I found on the
Internet: http://home.hccnet.nl/piet.blaas/sony.htm )
I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
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Remove the cable from the back of the computer and record. You should get
nothing.
If so, check to be sure the recorder is plugged into the exact same outlet
as the computer. Not one across the room. That should do the trick.
Report back.
Norm Strong |
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ken tisdale
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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i had similar problems a while back and the way i resolved it was to change
my onboard sound card for a sound blaster live card then downloaded a trial
version of Rip Edit Burn a software program put out by Singing Electrons,i
was very satified with the trial version so i purchased the full version on
line,i am sure there are many other ways of converting tapes to cd but this
one worked for me ,good luck , ken t,nc.
"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a humming
background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups, however, did
not find any person discussing a similar problem.
I am wondering what I need to do, specifically, which equipment to
change in my current setup to get a quality audio file.
Here is a list of the equipment that I am using:
-- AMD ATHLON 2200 computer, 512 K RAM, SY-KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum
Edition) motherboard. (Here is more:
http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=46 )
-- On board CMI 8738 providing 6-channel audio
-- Sony TC-153SD cassette deck (here is an image I found on the
Internet: http://home.hccnet.nl/piet.blaas/sony.htm )
I am connecting the cassette deck to the Audio In port at the back with
the appropriate cabling.
Any advice is appreciated.
Deguza
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Richard Crowley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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| Quote: | i had similar problems a while back and the way i resolved
it was to change my onboard sound card for a sound blaster
live card then downloaded a trial version of Rip Edit Burn
a software program put out by Singing Electrons, i was very
satified with the trial version so i purchased the full version
on line,i am sure there are many other ways of converting
tapes to cd but this one worked for me ,good luck
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It is inconceivable that the recording software could have
anything to do with the presense of hum in the recording.
And very unlikely that the onboard sound card was the
source of the hum, either. More likely in the process of
changing sound cards, the offending input got muted, or
whatever the actual problem was. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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Kompu Kid wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for your reply.
I don't have a cable TV signal or broadband connected to the PC.
However, the computer is not directly connected to an outlet. It is
connected to a UPS. I wonder if the UPS is the culprit.
The UPS is then attached to a GFCI type of outlet.
Deguza
A quick experiment would reveal whether the UPS is the culprit. |
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Ben Bradley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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In alt.audio.equipment,rec.audio.tech and alt.cd-rom, On Sun, 21 Aug
2005 01:23:56 -0700, "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote:
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
Any advice is appreciated.
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Keep your nose clean, don't drink and drive.
| Quote: | Do recordings on your computer "hum" with other sources
besides the cassette machine?
Does the output of the cassette machine sound clean (no hum)?
Does moving the cassette machine change the hum?
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Especially, is it anywhere near a CRT monitor? Move it as far away
from other equipment as the cables will allow.
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Where (exactly) do you have the power cords from the
computer and from the cassette machine plugged in?
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Arny Krueger
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124598519.835836.9200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
| Quote: | Hello All:
I am trying to convert my cassettes to CDs.
I tried to it with the onboard audio circuitry on my
motherboard.
I had terrible results. The converted audio file has a
humming background noise.
I have looked at the archives and various Usenet groups,
however, did not find any person discussing a similar
problem.
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It seems like we hear about this problem about once a week,
certainly on some audio group someplace every two weeks or
less.
It's called a ground loop.
Search Google under "ground loop" for more information. |
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Kompu Kid
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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Thanks for all the suggestions and advice.
Additional information on my setup:
- I am not using the headphone outlet on the Sony cassette deck.
- I am using the "line-out" on the cassette deck. This line-out is
similar to the ones I have on my TEAC cassette deck and CD player.
- The "audio-in" port at the back of the computer is smaller in
diameter, probably for a 3.5 mm jack as Laurence Payne said. (I am not
using the port for the microphone. I have my headset's microphone
attached to that.)
- The cable I use is a "Y". The two jacks get attached to the cassette
decks line-out ports. The smaller one to the sound card.
- When I record Internet broadcasts with the computer, I do not get any
hum.
- The tape recorder/player is not close to the monitor, but it was
nect to the UPS. I will try to move it away and see what happens.
However, when I listen to a cassette directly from the deck, I do not
hear any noise.
- My UPS is a large TrippLite with two banks of power outlets. I am
using one back for the computer. The cassette deck is attached to one
of the outlets on the other bank. My recollection is that these two
banks are different in the way they deal with the power. I will connect
everything to the same outlet directly and see what happens.
I will try the other suggestions as well and report on the progress.
Deguza |
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66fourdoor
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Problem in converting audio cassettes to CD's |
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that's odd- I tranfer vinyl and analog tapes to CD-R all the time, no
hum- just using an as-is HP Pavilion with Windows ME and the Music
Match Jukebox that came with it, RCA jacks patch corded into the line
in jack, and set volume to low/moderate listening level. |
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