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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: tyan motherboards suck |
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I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the hell
of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was convenient
for them
not to be used.
2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind you
I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because the
onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit.. |
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Rob Stow
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:33 am Post subject: Re: tyan motherboards suck |
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public wrote:
| Quote: | I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
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I have had no problems with Redhat and Suse with the S288x
boards. Haven't tried other versions of Linux with those boards.
Also works great with W2K and W2K3 Server.
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1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the hell
of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was convenient
for them
not to be used.
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It is a board designed for 1U and 2U cases. The floppy connector
works just fine in a 2U case.
If you wanted a mobo for a desktop case, you should have tried
the 2885 or 2895. IIRC, the floppy connectors on the 2880 and
2881 are also better placed for desktop cases.
As well, you could have simply used a USB floppy and saved
yourself a lot of aggravation.
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2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
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I have found it impossible to boot off of a 4 drive SATA RAID
with the S288x motherboards, but I have had no problems
otherwise. Eg., RAID 0+1 works fine if you are not booting off
of it.
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3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
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I'm not too fond of it either. I find that a two week delay
before getting a response is typical. It is probably better for
the big OEMs who buy the boards in thousand lots.
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Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind you
I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because the
onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit..
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Asus makes nice single-CPU boards, but I wouldn't wish one of
their dualies on my worst enemy. Go with MSI if you are truly
pissed off at Tyan. IWill also makes some nice Opty dualies. |
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bhoover
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: Re: tyan motherboards suck |
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public wrote:
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I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the hell
of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was convenient
for them
not to be used.
2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind you
I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because the
onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit..
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That's an awful thing to say.
Sounds like you just bought from the wrong market (or rather,
sub-market). My impression is that Tyan is fantastic. The used --
though emaculate -- s2462 I bought is a work of art (but I tend to wax
romantic) -- the thing is beautiful.
Tech support *might* be a little slow, but if you follow the
instructions for their automated server, they'll get back with you.
Sent me the hard to find I/O shield for this board, no charge.
Bryan |
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public
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: Re: tyan motherboards suck |
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"Rob Stow" <rob.stow@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:%qVJe.151254$%K2.31772@pd7tw1no...
| Quote: | public wrote:
I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
I have had no problems with Redhat and Suse with the S288x boards.
Haven't tried other versions of Linux with those boards.
Also works great with W2K and W2K3 Server.
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you did not try to configure the SATA RAID, then tell me how you did it
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1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the
hell of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was
convenient for them
not to be used.
It is a board designed for 1U and 2U cases. The floppy connector works
just fine in a 2U case.
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the case that I use is a chenbro
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If you wanted a mobo for a desktop case, you should have tried the 2885 or
2895. IIRC, the floppy connectors on the 2880 and 2881 are also better
placed for desktop cases.
As well, you could have simply used a USB floppy and saved yourself a lot
of aggravation.
2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
I have found it impossible to boot off of a 4 drive SATA RAID with the
S288x motherboards, but I have had no problems otherwise. Eg., RAID 0+1
works fine if you are not booting off of it.
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I need to boot of it, however I will try to create a raid with only three
drives
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3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
I'm not too fond of it either. I find that a two week delay before
getting a response is typical. It is probably better for the big OEMs who
buy the boards in thousand lots.
Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind
you I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because
the onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit..
Asus makes nice single-CPU boards, but I wouldn't wish one of their
dualies on my worst enemy. Go with MSI if you are truly pissed off at
Tyan. IWill also makes some nice Opty dualies. |
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public
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: Re: tyan motherboards suck |
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<bhoover@wecs.com> wrote in message news:42F82ACD.14183471@wecs.com...
| Quote: | public wrote:
I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the
hell
of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was
convenient
for them
not to be used.
2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind
you
I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because
the
onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit..
That's an awful thing to say.
Sounds like you just bought from the wrong market (or rather,
sub-market). My impression is that Tyan is fantastic. The used --
though emaculate -- s2462 I bought is a work of art (but I tend to wax
romantic) -- the thing is beautiful.
Tech support *might* be a little slow, but if you follow the
instructions for their automated server, they'll get back with you.
Sent me the hard to find I/O shield for this board, no charge.
Bryan
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I have no idea what are you talking about in the last paragraph. |
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doctor.ratt
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: tyan motherboards suck |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 03:30:03 GMT, Rob Stow <rob.stow@shaw.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | public wrote:
I bought a tyan thunder k8sd pro s2882-d
The sata raid does not work with Fedora Core 3 and 4 despite the fact
that Tyan writes on mobo box that it supports Linux and the rest of the
crap.
I have had no problems with Redhat and Suse with the S288x
boards. Haven't tried other versions of Linux with those boards.
Also works great with W2K and W2K3 Server.
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i used caldera, problem free.
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1. The floppy disk connector cable is too short thus the floppy drive
cannot be used even on pc cases (I have tried on one just for the hell
of it)
apparently the idiots at Tyan place the connector where was convenient
for them
not to be used.
It is a board designed for 1U and 2U cases. The floppy connector
works just fine in a 2U case.
If you wanted a mobo for a desktop case, you should have tried
the 2885 or 2895. IIRC, the floppy connectors on the 2880 and
2881 are also better placed for desktop cases.
As well, you could have simply used a USB floppy and saved
yourself a lot of aggravation.
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or spent a few pennies on a longer cable.
| Quote: |
2. After using the bios utility to configure a 4 disk sata raid FC4
installs ok, however it
does not reboot.
I have found it impossible to boot off of a 4 drive SATA RAID
with the S288x motherboards, but I have had no problems
otherwise. Eg., RAID 0+1 works fine if you are not booting off
of it.
3. Contacted Tyan a while ago, never heard from them, thus it can be
concluded that Tyan
does not have technical support.
I'm not too fond of it either. I find that a two week delay
before getting a response is typical. It is probably better for
the big OEMs who buy the boards in thousand lots.
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strange. whenever i've contacted tyan, i've had a reply within 3
working days. whether i was asking for a recommendation for a raid
card or asking for an rma number.
it took them less than 3 weeks [total time, including requesting rma]
to replace my dead board from germany.
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Here is some advice, stay away from Tyan. I will try ASUS and MSI, mind you
I will stay away
from their SATA RAID bullshit and used a proper raid controller, because the
onboard raid is
just marketing bullshit..
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onboard ide/sata raid has always been a bit crap, it's not a tyan
problem.
| Quote: | Asus makes nice single-CPU boards, but I wouldn't wish one of
their dualies on my worst enemy. Go with MSI if you are truly
pissed off at Tyan. IWill also makes some nice Opty dualies.
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msi would also be my second choice after tyan.
dr ratt
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i know what i'm doing.
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