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parm
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 Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then dies |
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Hi,
I just purchased the Chaintech 7NJL6 for my AMD Duron 1.8 GHz CPU. I
connected everything and started the system. It starts for a few
seconds and then dies. The power LED on the front panel starts to
blink. I disconnected all the components and placed the board on non
conductive base and powered it up, still the same problem. Any
suggestions or comments. HELP!!!!
Thanks.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then dies |
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1. Did it give you any beep codes; did the system beep at all? You can look up the BIOS beep codes online.
2. Do you have RAM and a video card installed?
3. If the heatsink is not properly attached, the CPU will shut down to protect itself from thermal damage.
Make sure your heatsink is making proper contact with the CPU, and not resting on the edge of the motherboard's socket instead.
Also, make sure there is still a very thin layer of thermal grease where the CPU contacts the heatsink.
(The CPU is the the small rectangular chip in the middle of the module -- not very large at all. The surrounding mass is cache and other circuitry.)
4. There are several threads on this and related issues in this forum; Irecommend looking through them for answers and tips.
I have found that the 7NJL6 is a very stable board.
HTH!
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uddarts
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then dies |
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"parm" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I just purchased the Chaintech 7NJL6 for my AMD Duron 1.8 GHz
CPU. I connected everything and started the system. It starts
for a few seconds and then dies. The power LED on the front
panel starts to blink. I disconnected all the components and
placed the board on non conductive base and powered it up,
still the same problem. Any suggestions or comments. HELP!!!!
Thanks.
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check your heatsink and make sure it’s not sitting on the lip of the
cpu mount. did you use a thermal pad or thermal grease? is the cpu fan
plugged into the correct fan header and is it a 3 wire fan?
did you clear the cmos/bios jumper?
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parm
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"uddarts" wrote:
| Quote: | check your heatsink and make sure it's not sitting on the lip
of the cpu mount. did you use a thermal pad or thermal grease?
is the cpu fan plugged into the correct fan header and is it a
3 wire fan?
did you clear the cmos/bios jumper?
ud
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UD,
I checked the fan, it seems to be sitting fine. The CPU has four
cylindrical (i assume rubber like) raised surfaces on which the fan
sits. It is a two wire fan. I did not get any thermal grease or
anything with the fan. I bought all the parts (HD, CPU, MB, Memory
etc.) from Tiger Direct. I have installed the memory and fan.
Everything else is disconnected. I did clear the CMOS. It starts and
then just dies. Maybe something is tripping it. I don’t know. I have
also sent an email to Chaintech. But no reply so far. This was
yesterday.
Thank you so much for your help. Any other thoughts or suggestions. I
am trying to get this up and running for my son. We are both very
exicited about it. But so far no luck.
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uddarts
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"parm" wrote:
| Quote: | UD,
I checked the fan, it seems to be sitting fine. The CPU has
four cylindrical (i assume rubber like) raised surfaces on
which the fan sits. It is a two wire fan. I did not get any
thermal grease or anything with the fan. I bought all the
parts (HD, CPU, MB, Memory etc.) from Tiger Direct. I have
installed the memory and fan. Everything else is disconnected.
I did clear the CMOS. It starts and then just dies. Maybe
something is tripping it. I don't know. I have also sent an
email to Chaintech. But no reply so far. This was yesterday.
Thank you so much for your help. Any other thoughts or
suggestions. I am trying to get this up and running for my
son. We are both very exicited about it. But so far no luck.
Parm
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stop where you are! do not move or pass go! you don’t want to burn up
your chip.
you need some sort of thermal compound between the cpu and the
heatsink base.
what heatsink do you have. can you give me a link?
some heatsinks come with a little pad on the bottom of them and has a
peel off tape that portects it from dirt during shipping.
if there isn’t one you can buy something like these listed at
tigerdirect.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=503
here is a link for instructions how to apply.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_small.htm
you may be able to find some locally.
your heat sink fan needs 3 wire. the yellow one is an rpm sensor which
the motherboard looks for. it is a safety feature in case the fan
stops.
again what heatsink and fan do you have? since it’s not 3 wire makes
me think the combo may be wrong.
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parm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"uddarts" wrote:
| Quote: | stop where you are! do not move or pass go! you don't want to
burn up your chip.
you need some sort of thermal compound between the cpu and the
heatsink base.
what heatsink do you have. can you give me a link?
some heatsinks come with a little pad on the bottom of them
and has a peel off tape that portects it from dirt during
shipping.
if there isn't one you can buy something like these listed at
tigerdirect.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=503
here is a link for instructions how to apply.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_small.htm
you may be able to find some locally.
your heat sink fan needs 3 wire. the yellow one is an rpm
sensor which the motherboard looks for. it is a safety feature
in case the fan stops.
again what heatsink and fan do you have? since it's not 3 wire
makes me think the combo may be wrong.
ud
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UD,
Could the fan cause such a problem. I have posted the link for the fan
that I bought
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=412189&CatId=796
Below is the link for the motherboard that I purchased from
tigerdirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1043672&CatId=179
At this moment, I am just trying to narrow down the problem as to what
might be wrong. I just want the board to work with bare minimum setup.
Once this is done, then I will do the complete assembly for use. I
will order the new fan and the thermal gel today or will go and buy
one from the local store.
Thank you so much for all the help.
Regards,
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uddarts
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"parm" wrote:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=925064&CatId=792
here’s one that’s in the price range of the one you bought. if you
notice it makes reference to a 3 pin connector.
* Fan Dimension: 66x60x10 mm
* Heatsink Dimension: 66x72.7x42.5 mm
* Rated Voltage: 12V
* Started Voltage: 5V
* Rated Current: 0.38A
* Power Input: 4.20W
* Max. Air Flow: 20.2 CFM
* Noise: 35 dBA
* Bearing Type: 1 Ball Bearing
* Life Expectation: 40,000 Hours
* Connector: 3 Pin
* Total Weight: 285 g
* Thermal Resistance: ca=0.58 C/W
how you managed to find one that only has 2 wires, we just chalk up to
a $5 case of bad luck.
i use a single edge razor blade to spread the thermal compound. you
don’t need a lot. more isn’t better. just smooth it out and cover the
small die in the middle of the cpu. if you should get a little on the
rest of the cpu, just clean it up with a q-tip and some alcohol.
keep intouch.
ud
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parm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"uddarts" wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=925064&CatId=792
here's one that's in the price range of the one you bought. if
you notice it makes reference to a 3 pin connector.
* Fan Dimension: 66x60x10 mm
* Heatsink Dimension: 66x72.7x42.5 mm
* Rated Voltage: 12V
* Started Voltage: 5V
* Rated Current: 0.38A
* Power Input: 4.20W
* Max. Air Flow: 20.2 CFM
* Noise: 35 dBA
* Bearing Type: 1 Ball Bearing
* Life Expectation: 40,000 Hours
* Connector: 3 Pin
* Total Weight: 285 g
* Thermal Resistance: ca=0.58 C/W
how you managed to find one that only has 2 wires, we just
chalk up to a $5 case of bad luck.
i use a single edge razor blade to spread the thermal
compound. you don't need a lot. more isn't better. just smooth
it out and cover the small die in the middle of the cpu. if
you should get a little on the rest of the cpu, just clean it
up with a q-tip and some alcohol.
keep intouch.
ud
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UD,
Thanks so much. I have also found something similar to what you have
recommended at COMPUSA. It is a 3 pin connector and in stock. I can
pick it up locally. Lets hope it works. I have the links below. Any
input on these.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50093279&pfp=SEARCH
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50254543&pfp=SEARCH
If they don’t work, I will definitely order the one from tigerdirect.
I really appreciate all your time in helping me solving this problem.
Once again, thanks.
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uddarts
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"parm" wrote:
the second one is much better. copper is always better. i don’t think
the first one is really rated for your cpu. it has much better cmf, 42
vs 9. if they don’t have it in stock, i’m sure they can assist you in
a good choice. they should have the thermal compound and a cooler for
you at compusa to fit your needs.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50254543&pfp=SEARCH |
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parm
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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uddarts
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"parm" wrote:
| Quote: | UD,
I just got an email from Chaintech. They are saying that the
heat sink and the fan are not centered properly.
They asked me to check if the fan works without the CPU in the
MB. I have three fan/heatsinks and they all work fine without
the CPU. Chaintech said if that is that case then the CPU need
to be replaced or the heat sink is not sitting tightly and
properly on the CPU.
Any thoughts.
Parm
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you did get some thermal compound also?
just to cover all the bases. the proper hs install:
http://www.thermaltake.com/images/coolers/volcano/1671/copperBase.jpg
http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/images/Products/motherboard/7NJL6_M.jpg
if you placed the hs on the cpu with the large surface area on the cpu
and the notched area over the raise portion where the lever hidges.
the slot on the clip, where you put the screw driver, goes on that
side too.
we haven’t discussed the psu have we? on the side of the psu it should
list how many amps the +12v. what does it say?
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parm
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then die |
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"uddarts" wrote:
| Quote: | you did get some thermal compound also?
just to cover all the bases. the proper hs install:
[img:e8fed973e2]http://www.thermaltake.com/images/coolers/volcano/1671/copperBase.jpg[/img:e8fed973e2]
[img:e8fed973e2]http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/images/Products/motherboard/7NJL6_M.jpg[/img:e8fed973e2]
if you placed the hs on the cpu with the large surface area on
the cpu and the notched area over the raise portion where the
lever hidges. the slot on the clip, where you put the screw
driver, goes on that side too.
we haven't discussed the psu have we? on the side of the psu
it should list how many amps the +12v. what does it say?
ud
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Hi UD,
I have bought the copper heatsink and the fan along with the thermal
compound. Installed and everything seems to work fine. The system
boots up now I am going through an installation process. I ran into
some bios problems but they are fixed now.
This fan and heatsink is heavy and has a much better tension in the
spring. This seems to have done the job.
I will keep you updated if something else comes up.
Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.
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uddarts
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with Chaintech 7NJL6 - startsup and then dies |
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"parm" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I just purchased the Chaintech 7NJL6 for my AMD Duron 1.8 GHz
CPU. I connected everything and started the system. It starts
for a few seconds and then dies. The power LED on the front
panel starts to blink. I disconnected all the components and
placed the board on non conductive base and powered it up,
still the same problem. Any suggestions or comments. HELP!!!!
Thanks.
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talk about a tough row to hoe, huh! this has been too much like work.
glad things are finally going your way.
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