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Charles Meeks
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

Sak Wathanasin wrote:
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In article <slrndbv89f.sa6.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>,
Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> wrote:

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You really want one of these in your house? The noise it makes is
horrendous. I can barely tolerate it when it's in the little "server
room" next to my office; I certainly wouldn't want it next to my desk.
The quicker I get it installed in the co-lo the better.


I agree about the noise pollution; when we first plugged in our v20z I
believed it was defective because it was so loud. I cannot imagine it
in any place near a work environment, IMO somebody nearly deaf must have
evaluated the acoustical design.
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Neal A. Lucier
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

Dan Foster wrote:
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Just pointing out it seems a bit silly and hypocritical to slag on Linux
(on a number of Sun blogs) when one's own company has adopted it to run
a service processor on some servers instead of making Solaris the basis
of the service processor's OS.


I slag on Sun for reselling Newisys[1] computers with Service Processors
running Linux, but I also buy them because Sun did pick the niciest AMD
boxes on the market to resell.

If you want to buy an x86 based Sun server I would wait for the next
generation which is being designed and built by Sun. Not that there is
really anything wrong with the v20z and the v40z, they just don't have
that last little bit of refinement I have come to expect (demand) from
Sun hardware.

Neal

[1] the v40z: http://www.newisys.com/products/4300.html
the v20z: http://www.newisys.com/products/2100.html
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John D Groenveld
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

In article <1119865899.515147@docbert>,
Scott Howard <scott@hunterlink.net.au> wrote:
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All OSes have their place - the OS you'd want to run on a tiny embedded
controller (Linux in this case) is most likely going to be a different OS
to what you'd want to run on a 140-odd core multiuser system.

When is (Open)Solaris the appropriate OS for tiny embedded hardware?

How much tinier is the service processor embedded in Galaxy vs the
an ATCA Blade?

John
groenveld@acm.org
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Klaus Heinz
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> wrote:

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Then flow control magically starts working in the OS. :-)

Just today I had a closer look the the SP and unfortunately 'resize' did
not work as usual when I switched from TERM=sun to TERM=xterm on the
console.

Could the missing flow control also be the cause for /usr/openwin/bin/resize
getting a timeout?

ciao
Klaus
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Rich Teer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Rob Shepherd wrote:

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Don a big black cape, and the transition to the dar-x86-ide is complete...

I find your lack of faith most disturbing...

I mean, curses! caught red-handed! :-)

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It looks like this temptation you speak of, has become a serious threat
(for those that can afford it wink )

Indeed. I love the price/performance of amd64, but I'm still keeping
an eye on Sx86 SW availability before jumping ship. I suspect it will
be a LONG time before I abandon SPARC, if ever.

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Peter Eriksson wrote:

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And then depending on which operating system you intend of
running you might have problems getting the BIOS, the boot loader

Heh; you don't know me very well! There's only one OS I will consider
using: Solaris, be it on SPARC or x86/amd64.

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Stupid PC hardware. *Sigh*

Amen to that...

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Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
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John D Groenveld
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

In article <slrndbv89f.sa6.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>,
Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> wrote:
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Sun has a special patch to apply. So if you ever get 1x146 GB or 2x146
GB and a x86 box, you'll want to check:

You'll also need the ITU if you use h/w mirroring of two 72GB drives.

John
groenveld@acm.org
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hennessy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

In article <d9pf5c$pj0$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>,
Neal A. Lucier <nlucier@math.purdue.edu> wrote:
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If you want to buy an x86 based Sun server I would wait for the next
generation which is being designed and built by Sun. Not that there is
really anything wrong with the v20z and the v40z, they just don't have
that last little bit of refinement I have come to expect (demand) from
Sun hardware.

As long as they keep the cute little LCD screens. Those should be
fitted on blades btw, since labelling blades is an exercise in teeny fonts
and teeny fingers.


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"When in doubt, use brute force."
- Ken Thompson
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hennessy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

In article <d9pb0u$nli$1@alageremail2.agere.com>,
Charles Meeks <cmeeks@agere.com> wrote:
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I agree about the noise pollution; when we first plugged in our v20z I
believed it was defective because it was so loud. I cannot imagine it
in any place near a work environment, IMO somebody nearly deaf must have
evaluated the acoustical design.

And without PCIe, kinda not so fun as a workstation.. How else to
get the 7800GTX card in for "work"?
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Rich Teer
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote management capailities of V20z? Reply with quote

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, hennessy wrote:

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And without PCIe, kinda not so fun as a workstation.. How else to
get the 7800GTX card in for "work"?

Get an Ultra 20? :-)

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich
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